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Thread: Friday Feature Jan 23rd Jedi Revamp

ranger44
Sat Jan 24, 2004 3:15 pm
#508

Jedi! a army of one!!


hehe, one master jedi against a army. Boy this is going to be fun if your the jedi. Unless your on crack jack


Then a guild of jedi.


Great when does this start? (sarcastic)


SukB
Sat Jan 24, 2004 3:24 pm
#509

The changes to the Jedi i agree with, even tho i have none, but know some... its wether or not i should stop holo gimping and clarification on changes to unlocking that i want answers to.


thats what were talking about, we did read the post.


DarthTaulon
Sat Jan 24, 2004 3:26 pm
#510



Instead of changing the way to unlock FSCS every 5 months, why not just give us all Jedi slots? If its so tuff to be a jedi like all the kiddies claim then why cant we all get a shot at it? It will at least let us get it all out of our systems no? Since it just so tuff and hard and complicated to be jedi?


Better yet devs, how about fixing some REAL issues? I will make a list.


1. LAG, yeah lots of it! On the speederbike! In Bestine! In the sandpits outside Bestine! Actually pick a planet and there is lag beyond belief.


2. Sitting in chairs and floating. Devs, I saw this in Beta and now I still see it 5 months later? Is this such a nasty bug that we cannot figure out? SLIDING OFF CHAIRS! How hard can it be to fix?


3. Immersiveness. Sorry folks, I don't buy the Jabba "Themepark". It doesnt even look like Jabba's throneroom from the movie. If there was anymore LIGHT in that place I'd thought I was in Florida on the beach. Jabba's throneroom is DANK, DARK, with creepy corners. Not a giant open room with a fat slug waving his arms around. And what would hurt to toss in a soundeffect or two? And why does Boba Fett just stand there in the corner, hasn't he got better things to do?


4. Just because you put Vader, Boba Fett and a EG-6 power droid in an online game doesnt make it Star Wars.


5. Should we really rename the game JEDI WARS ONLINE? **edit** were you thinking? You dont think EVERYONE that wants to play this game will do whatever it takes to have a jedi? These kids spend day and night "hologrinding" like its a full time job. Maybe they really need full time jobs if they have the time to do this crap? I certainly dont. Like I said before and will say it again. My holocron said Smuggler and I said "Eat me, Im doing Bounty Hunter". Now I hear BH's cant even last against Jedi. So whats the point of hunting them if the jedi's will be more powerfull? Are the stormtroopers in town gonna uphold justice? They can barely stand up to a Tusken Raider for god's sake!

There's a lot more but I doubt this will just get past up like the rest of the comments. It really makes me wonder what you have planned for this game and what goes on behind the scene. I could care less about reading your little BIOs every month about what you did BEFORE SWG. Take the time you spent writing those BIOs and quirky comments and actually focus on the issues here.


Some of us fans take this game seriously and its time that you "buckle-up" and get to f*cking business.




Pen & Paper roleplayer since 1986
Devs, give me a pm if you need some assistance in world creating and quest making.
TheBuKk
Sat Jan 24, 2004 3:43 pm
#511

It now makes me wonder just how much of my hard work I put into hologrinding is going to be pissed away, because of too many squeeky wheels needing grease. Hologrinders will be compinsated....does this mean I should stop grinding holos altogether now, or finish up? This is kinda lame. I just dont want to get screwed out of a FSS after the work I've put in, my lady friend is mad enough.
IgescaStorm
Sat Jan 24, 2004 3:49 pm
#512

I dont care about the jedi, but about the way to become a jedi!


It was a brainless idea to make the jedi path through grinding 5 professions, but now, after months of grinding, you cant do that!!!!


People invested millions of credits to buy holocrons and months to grinding through 5 professions and now you say "Oh sorry, bad idea. We change it."


You should think about things, befor you make a stupid decision, and if you have made it, than hold it!
I don't know, what kind ofpeople you pay for and what kind of designer you have, but the whole game sucks in the gameplay!
I believe, your people never played any RPG.


And if you change the jedi path, you HAVE TO explain,what the changes are, othervise you will get MANY angry costumer and you will get an empty SWG quicker, as you can say "s h i t".


Du you believe, people will pay for you, if they get the feeling, you fool around with them?
Do you believe, people will forget the grinding, and say "Oh, well, let see, what the new path is!"


It makes me angry, that i can't write a guidefor my fanpage, because i never know, if it is valid after 3 weeks!






Account canceled
due to NGE.
Neclonmite
Sat Jan 24, 2004 4:00 pm
#513

While I like this idea, they DEFINITELY need to make sure to fully compensate for every profession mastered. Thre are a whole lot of people out there who went and mastered 15-20 professions and still haven't opened the slot.


If they do not properly compensate these people for every mastered profession and all that hard work they are going to alienate a lot of people.


I think the best thing to do is allow both methods to open the slot at least for several months until the people who have done all these professions for the slot get theirs.



-Neclon (Rodian) Galaxy of Bria - Master Weaponsmith - Master Merchant - Master Artisan

-Neclon (Slave of the Holocron) Galaxy of Gorath - Desolation Peake
Mastered So Far:
Artisan | Smuggler | Pistoleer | Bio Engineer | Scout | Marksman | Brawler
Image Designer | Entertainer | Medic | Teras Kasi Artist | Fencer | Swordsman
Pikeman | Squad Leader | Weaponsmith | Architect
zdrive
Sat Jan 24, 2004 4:03 pm
#514

this is just ridiculous and unfair, you cant just go around changing things, people based how they played the game on the holo grind, i myself have been taking it slow for various reasons and had a big plan in mind, now all that is gone because YOU, the DEVELOPERS, want to change things and once again cause misery, anger and regret among your loyal subscribers, can't YOU make something, do you always have to cater to whiners and thenchange it, man :/


i was getting used to the idea of grinding professions and now that its being removed i regret not having done it sooner, this quest stuff is just stupid, either it will involve a huge amount of players which the casual gamer wont ever organise, or it will be some random spawn npc which is just STUPID STUPID STUPID, will it be some super hard npc's i have to solo which i could have done before holocrons came out when i was a teras kasi master/master brawler/master doctor, this makes me so angry, can you just stop catering to the whiners who dont want to do this or that and just leave things as they are for once.


I for one will consider quitting if some stupid changes are made, im sick of having the feeling like things are going to be changed once ive put the effort into it.


damaros1
Sat Jan 24, 2004 4:09 pm
#515

just lovely ..... i build up a BH so i can have a character strong enough to head out and search for holocrons !!! and after many hard hours of searching/killing to get one or two you decide to pass them out for free .....ok fine i will keep my BH and buy a couple more holos and start a new account for a jedi slot ....now after many many hours of play with local friends all working on our holos and getting through a couple of them you are gonna change it again ......what a freaking waste of time ..clarification would be nice !!1 ..i wouldlike to know if i am supposed to keep grinding or just stop playing and wait for the changes ..then what are you gonna do half way through the quests people will whine and say they are too hard and you will change it again ..and so on and so on ...i am tired of putting in alot of time and work to get something only for you too take it away when i am getting there .....so if the new system is quest orientated i see no point in the second account since my Bh can just do them ...hey way to squeeze out an extra 80 bucks from me ..good job ...the con continues !!!! i have one word for the devs when this takes place ...


/cancel


being a jedi is supposed to be tough .... and take alot of commitment, aware of their surroundings at all times etc etc etc ..now they will roam free afraid of nothing ......what a waste of my time



damaros


Bogak
Sat Jan 24, 2004 4:12 pm
#516

Revamping the FSS is a Great thing. Back when the proccess of opening one was still a mistery Most of us thought that it was quest related anyways..

Grinding prof was always a bad idea IMO.


Changing it to where you lose a single skill box instead of all skill on Death for Jedi. That will keep more people playing them. (Less People giving up) But will also see more in Battle.. Less afraid of that BH Gunning for them..



Now FIX Jedi Bounties. Fix Seeker Droids issue. That way Bh are able to find their Targets..


Thanks..



Bogak~ Flurry Commando (Elder Bounty Hunter)

Beta Fezz

Bogak Intrepid Combat Medic Elder

Kilun
Sat Jan 24, 2004 4:12 pm
#517

How many Starwar games have many of you played that a: did well and b: didn't focus around jedi at all. Answer is maybe three at most. Two are: Tie Fighter and X-wing. Both amazing games and fun to play. Yet didn't focus around the Jedi, the first (3rd)Dark Forces(been a long time) I don't believe you got any force powers, but in the second one you did. Every other game is based on Jedi and ladies and gentlemen JEDI made Starwars a hit. Without Jedi it was another Battlestar Galactic, Buck Rogers, etc(now don't get me wrong, both those are great shows..er..that Sci-fi remake of BG was kind of lame) A lot of people acknowledged the fact that Jedi was hard to get, but making people grind profession after profession lost a ton of people who did all they could. Take me for example, I have two accounts.


Main: Master Armorsmith, Artisan, did weaponsmith and Merchant. Thats me Buckaroo. I don't make armor anymore other than for the guild, made armor from about september - Mid december, made a ton of credits and had fun. Before all masters I tried a ton of professions and yet didn't want to do it anymore.


Second Account: First character Lubic, didn't master anything but Scout and marksman, but BH, Commando, Smuggler as elites. Deleted for Gaffer mastered: Doctor, Medic, Scout, Weaponsmith, ID, Entertainer, Artisan, Merchant, TKA, Marksman, Brawler.


Now I have did with my two accounts all but: SL, BIO, Combat Medic, Rifleman, Pikeman, Fencer, Musician, Architect. 8 professions I have not did, I've been to planets, did themeparks and everyother lame thing to do in this game like many other people. Guess what, I want a Jedi to go kill something. Jedi makes video games and movies and George Lucas money. We all knew EP1 sucked, but yet we saw it. EP2 was a tad better, but sucked(mind you these are opinions of the movie to me and may or may not fit into your view of the movie) In video games people don't like being normal people and if you think this game is normal, that rancor you go fight would grab your lame ass and eat you. Yet we can hit, kick and shoot it even when it is swinging at our heads. As for the timeline, guess what the first mistake was, that. Do it before the first movies or after. Not during when Jedi are "rare" because that screws up what you wanted to do. How many people do you think quit after the first couple of months because of no Jedi? A lot. At least 3people I personally quit, no Jedi no Saber battles no fun. Many more quit. As for the hologrind I've been there, my second account is cancelled as of Feb1st at the moment, till I know it is possible for me to become a Jedi without more grinding, if not I'll slowly inch my way out. As for the KOTOR statement that many seem to flash around, NO Multiplayer. Not online. RPGs(Bioware in particular) are great games, but the amount of time doesn't fit into many peoples type of game. But what people want is a Sabre battle between a couple people or charging into battle in the GCW that this game has, sure it doesn't fit the "timeline" but who cares. If it should then we should have a "Battle of Hoth" expansion pack and do the whole movies in a couple of years and call the game quits. Will it last without Jedi, yes. Will it do better with Jedi, yes. This is a game and the object is that it makes the company money each month with upgrades, new features, etc and you pay a cheap amount for your enjoyment(a movie cost 7bucks at night, 2hrs on average, 4hrs for 14) I bet everyone plays more than 6hrs a month, if so you got your money worth of enjoyment based on current prices of "going out for entertainment(movies, bowling, yoga, whatever floats your boat, etc)"

This is a business and the majority of people what a Jedi, I don't care what some of you diehard people say about the "timeline" this is a game and with all products/services money is the bottom line. Of the couple hundred(or even thousand) that quit because of to many Jedi, many more will show back up because they can now be what they want to be. I want to be an Armorsmith, Doctor/heavyswordsman, and a Jedi. Maybe I can finally be that without dumping a couple more months into grinding some boring professions(boring to me, not everyone)



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Gunsablazen
Sat Jan 24, 2004 4:17 pm
#518

Well looks like all the whining got to SoE and now we gunna have a ton of Light Saber weilding Padi's running amuck.



Too bad they lifted the Perma Death at least then maybe a BH Jedi mission or two might work. Speaking of BH there goes the fun of being one. Whats the point in killing a Imp PC Jedi now that they just get cloned........


theta_
Sat Jan 24, 2004 4:27 pm
#519



walkerwind wrote:
"Yes and no.

No they most likely wont be in the new system. Yes you can keep yours if you still have it. (Im keeping mine cause I save silly items)"
That post by TH was just yanked from the boards, this is getting funnier by the minute.
eerrr, actually it ain't funny at all.





TH's post was in another thread, not this one.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Developers&message.id=21751#M21751




-Retock-

Stuff.


BHFORLIFE
Sat Jan 24, 2004 4:34 pm
#520

WHAT!!?!?!?!


are u kidden me?!?!


after i did 14 proffsions for the holocron ur telling me this?!! this is absalutly not fair... i put 2 monthes in getting those 14.. and now u tell me i did this for notting..


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