Development Cycle Archive

Thread: Jedi Revamp Phase I

Erym
Thu May 06, 2004 4:36 pm
#508

Will i be able to keep all my charecters on other servers? Or be limited to one server and 2 slots?


I enjoy playing different aspects of the game and playing on different servers allows me to do this.... without it i would not be playing much longer!


tis the only way i feel i get my money's worth.
Torlekk
Thu May 06, 2004 5:53 pm
#509






Erym wrote:

Will i be able to keep all my charecters on other servers? Or be limited to one server and 2 slots?


I enjoy playing different aspects of the game and playing on different servers allows me to do this.... without it i would not be playing much longer!


tis the only way i feel i get my money's worth.







I have not seen anything posted to imply that you would no longer be able to have multiple characters on multiple servers.

Ixtli
Fri May 07, 2004 10:17 pm
#510













Torlekk wrote:





FlawedDiamond wrote:

I dont CARE about Jedi. I dont want to BE a Jedi... Being a Dancer, I've developed a deep and abiding LOATHING for anything Jedi related!!!!


What I DO want is for you to do SOMETHING to get the freaking,masses of Mindless, AFK, Spamming, Holo Grinders OUTTTTT of our cantinas so that those of us who spent our entire careeers learning to be Entertainers can go BACK to WORK without being surrounded and overwhelmed by AFK, Spam Zombies.


Have you TRIED having a public conversation in a Cantina ANYWHERE in the galaxy??????


Have you Tried asking a Spamming Zombie POLITELY to stop? Want a new definition of Obscenity and Rudeness?? Try it sometime. The responses you get will Definitely expand your vocabulary of obscenities!!!! I grew up on Army bases until I was 20 years old. Most of the responses one gets to a POLITE and COURTEOUS request to stop spamming so that the rest of us can have a Public Conversation would make a Soldier or Sailor blush with embarassment.










Ahh, the beauty of the /addignore command. Try it. If you add all the afk spammers onto your ignore list, it makes it real easy to have a public conversation.







I think you miss the point and I actually see what they are saying. There is a lot of spam going on not on only in the Cantinas but at the Star Ports and Shuttle Ports too.


I for one think that I shouldn't have to be burdened using the /ignore command every time I log on to the game. It's a lot of unnecessary time and trouble to do this especially when it's a command that I only deemed to use when necessary for a offensive user rather than public conversation or advertisements.


However, never mind my personal opinions about how and when to use the /ignore command because when you get to the heart of the issue. It really dosen't solve the problem. It just sweeps it under the rug or like shoving it into the closet until you have no more room. Not to mention that ignoring the problem dosen'tmean it go away.


I also notice that a lot of the SPAM is being caused by fairly regular people as well, some who are on from when the server restarts to the next time the server reboots.


I've had the following ideas...


1.) SPAM should be included in the TOS specified as something that should not be done on any of the servers.


2.) A lot of the SPAM is actually advertisement. That being the case why don't we have a system like the Buzzars that functions as a yellow pages. This way people get to advertise their product and location, and those who want to purchase can have a unified place to look up those places. When you look at it, it's really not to different from the TV advertisements or Yellow Page ads or even what is printed in the news papers of todays world. Don't ya think?


I think we forget sometimes that a lot of spam causes a lot of unnecessary server traffic which is just bringing the server down and taking some of us along for the ride.




May the force be with you, always...

Ixtli
Master Doctor, Teras Kasi Master
Torlekk
Sat May 08, 2004 7:50 am
#511

Good point!


And while I think that forbidding SPAM in the TOS would be a good idea, it would be virtually unenforceable for a couple reasons. First of all, so many people would still do it that they wouldn't be able to ban everyone -- there'd be very few people left in game! heheh The second reason is that you'd have to have a very good definition of what SPAM is. Is SPAM the Master Doc that's sitting down and shouting out everycouple minutes or so how much his buffs cost so he doesn't have to go through tell hell? Is SPAM the barker droid that the devs just spent so much time implementing into the game. If someone stops me and asks where I got the weapons I'm carrying and I tell him "I buy all my stuff at the Phoenix Alliance mall outside of Coronet" and someone overhears me and gets offended that I "SPAMMED" them, will I get in trouble? It would just be too difficult to effectively enforce it. The CSRs would have to spend so much time doing that, they wouldn't have time to send canned responses to all the tickets that get opened.


Torlekk
Sat May 08, 2004 7:51 am
#512

Oops, I apologize for getting off topic.


Yeah, the Jedi revamp is looking pretty cool! This week's Friday Feature has me pretty excited about the whole process.


Ixtli
Sat May 08, 2004 11:41 am
#513






wz077ms wrote:
For those concerned about Jedi numbers, it will not be any worse than it is with thousands mastering professions. In actuality, it might even deter people from playing Jedi. The quest system will make you earn the slot, so it will cut down the Jedi population right there. The holocron farming system was so easy,the Jedis were a dime a dozen. Anyone with the right macros could master an elite profession in a day.




Thank you, someone finaly hit the nail on the head so to speak.




May the force be with you, always...

Ixtli
Master Doctor, Teras Kasi Master
Blueblooded
Sat May 08, 2004 11:08 pm
#514

TH are you going to "credit" novice and elite skills mastered as the same towards force sensitivity?


Novice skills tend to be far easier and quicker to master. Im a vet player and Ive only mastered 3 professions (because I found one I like so much), 2 of these are elite.


Of these (BE & TK) BE was a royal pain...should someone with that much dedication to their craft only develop as much FS as someone who ground out a novice skill in a couple of days? - if that!


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Mor-Dan
Sun May 09, 2004 10:18 am
#515

you are making a SERIOUS mistake by choosing player voting on anything. this WILL become a popularity poll. remove it now before it is too late. you are about to drive thousands more people away from the game.



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Ixtli
Sun May 09, 2004 10:31 am
#516






Torlekk wrote:

Good point!


And while I think that forbidding SPAM in the TOS would be a good idea, it would be virtually unenforceable for a couple reasons. First of all, so many people would still do it that they wouldn't be able to ban everyone -- there'd be very few people left in game! heheh The second reason is that you'd have to have a very good definition of what SPAM is. Is SPAM the Master Doc that's sitting down and shouting out everycouple minutes or so how much his buffs cost so he doesn't have to go through tell hell? Is SPAM the barker droid that the devs just spent so much time implementing into the game. If someone stops me and asks where I got the weapons I'm carrying and I tell him "I buy all my stuff at the Phoenix Alliance mall outside of Coronet" and someone overhears me and gets offended that I "SPAMMED" them, will I get in trouble? It would just be too difficult to effectively enforce it. The CSRs would have to spend so much time doing that, they wouldn't have time to send canned responses to all the tickets that get opened.








Sigh... this is so true.



May the force be with you, always...

Ixtli
Master Doctor, Teras Kasi Master
Jukken
Mon May 10, 2004 3:22 am
#517

My biggest concern for the revamp will be the "second character slot".

To me, this will bring things into the same "mule" phase like other mmorgs.

Why would anyone want to be a smuggler...when they can just log on their grinded mule-smuggler, have a quick slice...and then log back on their "real" character.

There will not be any "real" crafters...when people just log onto their "mule-crafter"...craft what they want...and then back to their "real" character.
All crafters will become mules...I'm afraid.



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Torlekk
Mon May 10, 2004 4:12 pm
#518






Blueblooded wrote:

TH are you going to "credit" novice and elite skills mastered as the same towards force sensitivity?


Novice skills tend to be far easier and quicker to master. Im a vet player and Ive only mastered 3 professions (because I found one I like so much), 2 of these are elite.


Of these (BE & TK) BE was a royal pain...should someone with that much dedication to their craft only develop as much FS as someone who ground out a novice skill in a couple of days? - if that!


I







Blueblooded,


I may have misinterpreted what was said, but as I understood it, credit will be given for the professions you have mastered that count towards opening your FS slot. So, if you Mastered 23 professions but only 3 of the ones you need for FS, you will get the same amount of credit as those who only mastered 3 holocron professions.


I know that, if that's the way they do it, a lot of hologrinders will be pissed off. But it does seem to make the most sense.


In any event, I doubt the devs are still monitoring this post since it's so old, so I wouldn't count on getting an "official" answer to your post.

Deane
Tue May 11, 2004 12:19 am
#519

Can you say:


MasterDoctor


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/ui action targetGroup2;


/follow;


/healdamage;


/pause 5;



ZedStarLancer
Tue May 11, 2004 4:39 am
#520

The Home Page of SWG states," Immerse yourself in Star Wars in a way you've only dreamed! Star Wars Galaxies is the first massively multiplayer online roleplaying game based on the Star Wars universe that lets you live in the movies with thousands of other playes!" A reasonable person would then think thatit will be like the movie, withthe same time line(live in the movies), and some minor differences(based on).Then there is information that states SWG takes place right after the destuction of the deathstar and to the envasion of the rebels secret base on hoth.


Okay sounds good. From what the movies are, that time period the jedi order is in turmoil being that it is all but destroyed. There are a few members in hiding, and the sith numbers are low. Being that vader destroyed anyone he thought to be competetion for his spot, and all jedi he could find. Luke is still basically force sensitive, and there are a small number of force sensitive people born. There is a civil war that is composed of the imperials(people whom support the empire and uppose the new republic for they fear corruption as the old republic was), and the rebel alliance(those whom suported the new republic and oppose the empire for its cruel ways). There is a third criminal element ran by the hutt factions. At this time the famous bounty hunter Boba Fett is working for Jabba the Hutt as he believes that all jedi are dead. He is the son of Jango Fett, and watched his father get killed by the jedi. This started him on his vendetta to kill all jedi.


There are a few newJedithat havesurfaced, but they are still padawans, as seen in the expanded universe and provided by books. (in fact the new jedi council does not start until after the destruction of the empire/second death star, and the start of the new imperial army)Themelee classes are nessesary due to the develepment ofpersonal sheilds that have been developed around the mandalorian wars.


Anyway Jedi are a very very small part of this civil war. Many customers and fans of Star Wars have brought this up, and recieved comments that "this is a game" or "this is an alternate universe". That is not what it on the box when you purchase it or the home page. It is not the dev's faults that they are concentrating on Jedi, as the majority of the paying customers want to be jedi. They saw Star Wars and imediatly thought" oooooooooooooh..............Jedi!" Then when they bought it and started playing, they where disapointed that it was about a civil war. The dev's only care about money, they care nothing about the integrity of the saga, or the true star wars fans. I would be suprised if the dev's have even met George Lucas, or even know who he is. From the way they answer our questions I think that they are clones of Al Gore.



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