Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Weekly Rountdable Discussion (Week ending 1-10-04)
About Droid Fix:
Guys, Jedi are broken. Personally I'm happy to see droids not working. You will have *0* jedi playing if Droids go live right now. It's certainly no challenge to beat one. I don't mind having BH vs Jedi when the system is fun and fair to both sides, but it's just grieding to Jedi as far as I'm concerned right now.
Issues:
KD/Dizzy is a one shot kill. Big deal.
Jedi cannot identify their attacker. Against the concept of force sensitive.
Allies of a Jedi cannot fight back/assist the Jedi against their attacker.
Jedi, if you forget, are permadeath.
Jedi get a TEF just by hunting with a saber out. This lasts 5 minutes. ANY Imperial, covert or overt, can kill them in this time. Any elite profession can kill a Jedi right now. Population control is already in effect, thanks. The BH who say 'WE are the only jedi population control' have not played a Jedi character, nor have investigated the situation in detail. Do you see Jedi Knights on every corner? No. Do you see them running around in towns? Maybe when players first unlock, but as you likely noticed- those first 'show off' characters are then deleted and never heard from again.
The main argument I hear from BH is 'you guys knew about permadeath when you unlocked'. Heck yes. That does not bother me at all. I do mind being taken out using an 'exploit' where the Jedi , who was promised to have some sort of fighting chance, can be taken out in a few seconds even in full composite/fully buffed. Where a obviously hostile BH can literally /kneel and aim before getting the first shot off. Where Rebel BH can hunt Rebel Jedi. I think you guys have no idea how often lag/armor hole kills a Jedi player.
Fix up combat - Warcry 2 is too powerful in PvP. (20 seconds no action from players and it can be spammed) Knockdown/Dizzy is too powerful (NPC's get up in a couple seconds, players have lag to deal with when trying to /stand, and KD/Dizzy can be spammed)
Status effect 'stíck' even when blocked. KD/Dizzy sticks even if the shot's are 'blocked
Fix up Jedi so they have defences/immunities to cheap kills. I read the development promise, and am quite familiar with the timeline. A Jedi Knight should be able to beat the tar out of a master BH. Jango ran from Obi Wan. Had no chance against a master.
Jedi get permadeath, BH do not.MAJOR imbalance towards Jedi. No reward for defeating a BH.
Give BH some defences. Many elite professions can take a master BH to town. My main master pikeman/master brawler just does one warcry 2, dizzy, knockdown and the BH is out. *my main* has super high dizzy and knockdown defence, dodge, block and melee/dodge resists. At the minimum my Jedi who has been working on his 'combat class' 3 times longer then my main character should kick (my own) butt. I have a ton of fun playing my main, surprisingly little playing the Jedi class, which was promised to be 'rewarding'.
Once the BH/Jedi get some love and 'fixedup' so the battle are at least interesting and not over in a few second, thenfix droids and get the BH/Jedi battle under way. I'm up for a good BH vs Jedi fight, but not when things are so one sided. Bentos, neat master Jedi, demonstrated that status effects go through a jedi saber block, and even his hugely powerful block mods only stopped about 70% of incoming fire. Less then a Fencer.
Renairdor Dartain
Naritus Godfather
Bounty Hunter droid fixes; both for jedi tracking and for the speed bugs...
Bounty Hunter Defenses and better carbine HAM costs would be nice too.
BH droid fixes:
a. work against Jedi
b. Waypoint update speed stillDECREASES as you "level up"
c. tracking droids not getting consumed after use
I'll try and keep it short and to the point :
1. Fix ALL professions and add new content ie: For commandos, fix our weapons please!
2. Increase # of items in large buildings. Like 100 items (or even 75) per lot. A PA hall with 9 lots and only 250 items is too little.ALSO give us an /movefurniture up{down} command
3. Add more rare loot, and more useful loot.
4. Get rid of 1% decay for PvP and GCW. Fix the GCW and battlefields.
Cresslin
Master Commando/Master Teras Kasi
Leader of DFR
walkerwind wrote:
Jedi bounty droid fix?
I hope they dont fix tracking droids before they address some balance issues.
If it were simply Jedi vs BH, that would be a fair fight. But you guys can bring along tag team friends to group TEF off the jedi. 1 BH vs an unsuspecting jedi is a legit fight. 1 BH with 5 - 10 friends vs an unsuspecting jedi is most definitely not.
Until they come up with a way to restrict the BH and the BH alone to the mark, I HOPE they dont push this fix through. If they do, I'm done with my jedi until they decide to address the broken class.
I can tell you this, any time Test Center is left up for more than 3 days straight, as likely as not, things will be breaking by the end of the 3rd day. We're usually begging for a reload by then. I would expect that the daily Live reload window will stay. It's a more orderly process, and people know what to expect.
TolaGarf2 wrote:
Thunderheart, I would like to bring up an issue about the "almost" forgotten daily server reboots..
What is the purpose of this still? Clearly the servers should be able to run at least 5-7 days without a restart. It seems to me that this has justgotten routine for the tech-guys.
The holo grinders have been impacting many professions, but it has nearly completely destroyed the entertainer professions, due to their nature. Live entertainers are being refused groups because group leaders are afraid to kick AFK people because they don't want to get kicked when they are AFK. The class has basically no reason to exist anymore, as everyone gets healing from what are effectively NPCs now.
Technically speaking, the entertainer class is one of the most working professions. Gameplay speaking, they are one of the most broken.