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Thread: Live Issues Publish 9: Secrets of the Force

Shammygod
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:12 am
#495

Issue 1: Weapon switching, BH's and Commando's now even have a harder life due to the fact they need every weapon they get. For that matter anyone is gonna have a harder life because its usless to make them wait to switch. Get Rid of this Please...


Issue 2: Keep the armor delay.... Great idea for thos people who carry 3 sets of armor around switching in PvP. Cant equip armor while running like a mad man


Issue 3: anyone else have TONS and i do mean TONS of Dark Jedi terrorizing yer server? I saw 2 Rebel Jedi all day.


Issue 4: I know this one is getting worked on but BH missions badly need to be fixed. Jedi are iin the streets dueling people each other ect. Arnt they suppost to be in hiding? I liked the Jedi idea for patch 9-10 but never would I think that Jedi would over run city streets. I thought it would make a secret society of Jedi where the mundan crowd would only hear tales of the adventures. Also this is how a player plays and not a issue but im tired of seeing jedi saying "My jedi;s L33tn3ss p0wns juw n3wbs lol"

What happened to role playing?


Issue 5: Any one else having problems sending /tell talking in guild chat ect? Many people on my voice server been reporting it.





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SciCabbit
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:15 am
#496






TranSabal wrote:

This isn't a bug, per se, but more of a request... the TEF system for Jedi should be turned on. I know that the first day of the patch, the Jedi community (I am a Jedi) was showing off because it was new. However, there seems to be no penalty for "showing off" at a starport or in the middle of a city or whatnot. Many, many, many people were saying that now SWG is too much like Knights of the Old Republic.


While I wish that there wasn't a need for it, there is. There needs to be a penalty at every level of Jedi for using your powers in this era.






If you are Showing off at a Star Port, then you will show up on the BH Terminals. And if enough bounty Hunters get your mission and go to that Starport, then they will kill you. Doesn't matter if you are Strong in the force.


1 to 1, You probably will win.

5 to 1, You will have a Hard time.

10 to 1, the more the Less chance you have at surviving.


and if you die, its 200k Jedi exp+ in loss. and right now is not the time to be dieing with people stating the loss of Exp is also with Doctor Rez's bug.


TEF is Still there, but its with every other Profession.


Casper
SciCabbit
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:19 am
#497






groovysplat101 wrote:
There is a massive bug. a MASSIVE ONE. You're stupid idea of adding time delays to equipping armour. Nearly got me killed. Its very nice of you to have given us so much warning about that. I mean, we all had pleanty of time to adapt our combat tactics to equip armour before we get attacked, rather than the instant it occurs. I mean, who'd be stupid enough to activate their armour as soon as someone started shooting? Oh, wait. Me. Thats because you didn't tell us. At least, I didn't see it anywhere. Publish 9 is a Jedi Publish. Where's the "Oh, by the way, we're frelling with your armour" warning on the loading screen? I'd rather know that than the fact that people who's accounts have been active 30 days are getting nice shiney pictures.

First off, make sure everyone is warned about this, including the players who don't frequent the forums. People aren't taking notice of what publish 9 does, because its about Jedi. A lot of us think the abundance of Jedi people is a little stupid, and not needed.

Second, make it less stupid. Just pairing up the identical items with a single penalty would do...arm both bracers at once, and both biceps (on Composite). Right now, equipping armour just looks stupid. Instead of a suit of armour magically appearing, little chunks of armour are magically appearing. It'd be alright if the delay was just combat. But right now, I'm having to run around waiting for my armour to equip itself before I can do anything.

Third, make some more action emotes. If we're gonna have to wait around while armour equips, then at least give us some more things to do while it applies itself. Standing around for 30 seconds is stupid.




is it me orwere you Exploting the Game by Putting on 6 - 9 pieces of Armor in a Split Second? Yes, I do call it a Reality Check Exploit. Its Reality that Even Firemen can't put on All 9 pieces of stuff they wear in a split Second. Knights of Old could never put on a Full Plate Armor in a Split Second.


So why should you?


Casper

SciCabbit
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:22 am
#498






XellossMetari wrote:





Simmern wrote:

-- Jedi heals and Jedi heal states lags on the combat queue, sometimes for a good 5-8 seconds.

-- No color crystals.

-- Lance saber is significantly better than other sabers.

-- No paintings

-- Robes are **edit**

-- Robes look **edit** (arms too short)

-- Master Robe is too short at the bottom and arms are too short.

-- Out of 48 pearls that i tuned today, 40 of which were VERY GOOD, only 3 turned out nice in the conversion. (3x 45-50dmg, -9 etc.)

-- I am now left with 45 ball shaped door stops, which cost me 10million each at one point. (thanks soe!!)

-- Knight trial mobs, like Stintrail Prowlers are INSANELY difficult to find, 7 hours and I only found 1.

-- Forcerun3 uses 500 force... silly.

-- Lightsaber damage is not good enough.

-- People are now able to complete the same pve grind as old 4-4-4-4 guardians in 10% of the time.

-- Previous 4-4-4-4 guardians have been screwed.


I love you SOE!


...no



....really.




I 100% agree except for the part I highlighted.








I dont know, Ifhe/she's Too Picky about what goes into your Saber, then Yes, You are Screwed. You didn't have to do all 48 Pearls, You could of done 10, and used 3-4 Pearls in 1 saber. Then Waitied another day or time when you were stronger in the force to Turn the others. You could of Sold the others or as you say "use them as door Stops"


Just cause you had the Pearls didn't mean you had to tune them..


Casper

iskareot
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:26 am
#499

No bad rant just info:


Force Regen = Dont know if this is suposed to be this slow or bad..


XP Loss = this just has to be wrong people are dying and no clue why.. also its to stout I mean 200k ouch..


Robes = exactly what are they blocking and how much of it? different vuns of course--







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4Bidden
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:26 am
#500






SciCabbit wrote:





groovysplat101 wrote:
There is a massive bug. a MASSIVE ONE. You're stupid idea of adding time delays to equipping armour. Nearly got me killed. Its very nice of you to have given us so much warning about that. I mean, we all had pleanty of time to adapt our combat tactics to equip armour before we get attacked, rather than the instant it occurs. I mean, who'd be stupid enough to activate their armour as soon as someone started shooting? Oh, wait. Me. Thats because you didn't tell us. At least, I didn't see it anywhere. Publish 9 is a Jedi Publish. Where's the "Oh, by the way, we're frelling with your armour" warning on the loading screen? I'd rather know that than the fact that people who's accounts have been active 30 days are getting nice shiney pictures.

First off, make sure everyone is warned about this, including the players who don't frequent the forums. People aren't taking notice of what publish 9 does, because its about Jedi. A lot of us think the abundance of Jedi people is a little stupid, and not needed.

Second, make it less stupid. Just pairing up the identical items with a single penalty would do...arm both bracers at once, and both biceps (on Composite). Right now, equipping armour just looks stupid. Instead of a suit of armour magically appearing, little chunks of armour are magically appearing. It'd be alright if the delay was just combat. But right now, I'm having to run around waiting for my armour to equip itself before I can do anything.

Third, make some more action emotes. If we're gonna have to wait around while armour equips, then at least give us some more things to do while it applies itself. Standing around for 30 seconds is stupid.




is it me orwere you Exploting the Game by Putting on 6 - 9 pieces of Armor in a Split Second? Yes, I do call it a Reality Check Exploit. Its Reality that Even Firemen can't put on All 9 pieces of stuff they wear in a split Second. Knights of Old could never put on a Full Plate Armor in a Split Second.


So why should you?


Casper






I put on my entire armor in a split second to. I use a macro and place my armor on the hotkeys.. It has nothing to do with what you call "Reality Check Exploit". There are a ton of things ingame that are far from realistic.



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LoBai
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:32 am
#501

I would be happy to answer your question as to why you have 21 pages of ppl making a fuss. By the way good question!


1.The first obviouse reason is because they made the BH more like ever other profession in terms of combat power. Gone are the days of MBH running around with perfect PVP records. (Just a note: My Master BH named Iori' on the radiant server was able to kick butt on my friends jedi padawan last night. We dueled all night and not once did he win. Hmmmm isJedi stillreally that good? Nope!!!!!!!!)


2. Take away combat effectiveness from one very large group (AllCombat Professions)to giveanother very un-ballanced/very small group/combat profession (Jedi)makes a lot of ppl upset. I can tell you one thing Jedi are still not all powerful LOL they wish but its just not true. But yes it is more of a fight thanthe one hit the jedi is deadpast. This is fine with me because I got board after one hit. (Give a kid a corvett for his birthday and take it away and replace it with a pinto)


3. Then you just have those ppl who love to complaine no matter what you do you will never ever be able to make them happy. I've been around a long time and they just love to make waves.


4. Or maybe the player has a true issue and needs to communicate it and the post is the only way they know how.


5. The BH Jedi tracking system needs to be fixed ASAP! It's only fair that they get totrack those jedi who are waving thier saber's around like dummys. They still get visibility points when they do this!


6. All the other post are just bug related! See for yourself


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Iori' Master Bounty Hunter Radiant


Hairballs007
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:41 am
#502

It would be very helpful to include in your post:



Issue: Inventory, 2 Power hammers made with same serial acklay bone 175/175 changed from 599 damage 538 and from 750 damage (effect Slice) to 538 also.

What the hell is up? these worked fine for months.

Server: valcyn

Planet: all





Your profession:
PokinJoo
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:45 am
#503






Leah-Kirsty wrote:





Dansolo5 wrote:



Issue : LAG in switching weapons and equiping, un-equiping armour / weapons.







If you read the patch notes, you'll find that this isn't lag, it's an intentional delay






why is there a delay outside of combat when taking armor on and off?? where is the balance problem with this when you are NOT in combat??



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PistolDance
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:54 am
#504

For everyone that says Jedi are everywhere now...

They were before you just didnt know, the robes make Jedi known to all.



Milandra (SI)

" Into the garbage chute fly-boy! "
Masanis
Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:05 pm
#505

I haven't read all of the posts, but I can tell one thing is for certain:

A lot of you are whining, but at the same time you refuse to acknowledge the only step that will make the devs listen to you...



STOP PAYING THEM TO HAND YOU ABSOLUTE GARBAGE!


If you think something is terrible, you find a way to protest.


It has been shown repeatedly that the Devs do NOT respond to these whine-fests that we leave here on the boards. This is due to both the fact that you continue to pay them AND the fact that a couple of people said "Yay, uber, l337, can't typebut you're doing a good job! w00t!" This is absolute bull**edit**. I want to know actual opinions about this publish and I think I can find out for sure if a number of people post here committing themselves to an exit from the game! It can be temporary if the Devs truly want you back, but otherwise **edit** these people that don't even listen to you at all! Find something else to do with your time like reading or exercising.


REBEL AGAINST THIS TRASH!


RainbowScooter
Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:07 pm
#506

because my post got deleted somehow i ll try it again:


robes wielding lightsabers.

exampe given:
In Theed 2 jedi even fought 30 meters besides the imperial branch. Sorry, but this is wrong.
We are in a timeline were jedi are hunted down. Jedi have to hide. They may not use their

powers and reveal themselfes as jedi in public (even see them running around in robes and

wielding a light saber does offend a lot of people).
As devoted Star Wars fan I have to say that this destroys my and other peoples fun and

above all the Star Wars Feeling.
We do not want to see jedi all around and have the Empire standing next to them doing

nothing. It does not fit into Star Wars at this point.

Our passion for the game comes from the passion for the movies. It sad to see that with

every update you move further away from the movies.



Ideas:

- Don't allow jedi to wear robes and sabers in cities (at least not in big or Empire

controlled cities) - Peple hate to see 10+ jedi at star ports

- Have unbeatable Commando Troopers or maybe even Vader himself spawn when a jedis offends

against this points (wearing a jedi robe and saber in big cities)
These troopers may teleport off the scene to prevent having xxx troopers standing around.

- make a filter, a "whole character filter" so one can enter the jedi name and does not have

to see or read/hear something from that char. may give problems if one fights an enemy were

also a filterred-out jedi fights but thats a smal issue.

- make a role-play-only server and allow people to move with items and cash (except jedi).

This may cost a fee (like moving everquest accounts)

- reintroduce the TEF. Every jedi running in big cities wielding a saber +wearing a robe

will get a TEF. Using force powers will give them a TEF.
It does not work to rely on people behave mature. You have to force them to not ruin the fun of the majority.


For my part I have canceled my account. So did 2 of my friends. You will loose a lot more

customers because they want to play Star Wars online not KOTOR (Knights of the old Republic) online.
Seshemw
Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:09 pm
#507

Possibly intended, possibly not.
GTEF issue with 'neutral' Jedi.
Per Tanks (BH correspondant), if groupmates of a BH with a contract on a Jedi are all the same faction (imp BH, imperial groupmates), all get a group tef on the target Jedi when they fight back. So a neutral jedi, instead of being nominally immune to the GCW (as designed) and only having to worry about bounty hunters from visibility (as designed), also has to sweat those bounty hunters bringing ten of their best friends for a no-win fight (not designed?). And takes the XP loss (200k for having any single tree at 4), unless they have a doctor in reach during the revive timer, or are a master enhancer.



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