Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Live Issues Publish 9: Secrets of the Force
Bowoci
Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:56 am
#482
I've heard it said here many times that Test Center players were ignored when indicating problems with a patch. Yet they continue to ask for MORE people to test?? So they can ignore them too??
JaqUinRha wrote:
lunatin wrote:
well i have read all of yalls complaints about publish 9 but ut is know ones fault but yours...the gave us all the chance to log on to the test center and play for the sole reason of finding bugs...so in my eyes if you did not go to the test center and try it then stop whinning...every time i went to the test i got ambushed by a bounch of jedi that did not care about testing the game...so i stopped going...well later and have fun...
I'm sorry to hear that people were griefing you on TC2.It's not at all like that on TC usually. The *regulars there are very respectful of one another that I've seen.
As far as "fault" goes, there were more than enough people testing. That wasn't the problem.
I can't help but notice that the complaints in this thread are the same ones the TESTERS complained about over and over again before it was pubished, and were IGNORED. I personally don't understand the purpose of a test server if the pertinent information and opinion given by those testersis ignored and rendered useless.
If anyone on Live doesn't believe this --simply go and read those threads...
TranSabal
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:07 am
#483
This isn't a bug, per se, but more of a request... the TEF system for Jedi should be turned on. I know that the first day of the patch, the Jedi community (I am a Jedi) was showing off because it was new. However, there seems to be no penalty for "showing off" at a starport or in the middle of a city or whatnot. Many, many, many people were saying that now SWG is too much like Knights of the Old Republic.
While I wish that there wasn't a need for it, there is. There needs to be a penalty at every level of Jedi for using your powers in this era.
nightrun55
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:15 am
#484
Berzerker Rifle Barrel componet, will not work with the berzerker schematic.. I paid alot for these things, help!
oxycontinrush
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:16 am
#485
Just checked the Dev Tracker. Not a single staff comment on a single thread today.
Wow. You have to go back to the bad old "Pokemon" days since that's happened.
frodoD
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:21 am
#486
- All skill trainers are acting as jedi trainers to jedi. They are not offering to train the regular professions that they are supposed to. Is this intended? I'll likely want to adjust my regular professions as I grind towards knight, currently this seems impossible.
- For some reason Launchpad now automatically does a rather time-consuming and annoying full scan everytime I launch it. I play multiple characters and this is driving me batty. The scan also has the side effect of pegging my processor while it happens. Is this intended or is there a known way to tell it to stop?
- Jedi conversion: used 56 of the 62 points I had available for force discipline skills. The six remaining points poofed, these points are supposed to be the reward for 2 800k boxes in the padawan tree that took forever to grind. Why should 1.6 million in jedi xp go unrewarded in this new system?
- For some reason Launchpad now automatically does a rather time-consuming and annoying full scan everytime I launch it. I play multiple characters and this is driving me batty. The scan also has the side effect of pegging my processor while it happens. Is this intended or is there a known way to tell it to stop?
- Jedi conversion: used 56 of the 62 points I had available for force discipline skills. The six remaining points poofed, these points are supposed to be the reward for 2 800k boxes in the padawan tree that took forever to grind. Why should 1.6 million in jedi xp go unrewarded in this new system?
groovysplat101
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:27 am
#487
There is a massive bug. a MASSIVE ONE. You're stupid idea of adding time delays to equipping armour. Nearly got me killed. Its very nice of you to have given us so much warning about that. I mean, we all had pleanty of time to adapt our combat tactics to equip armour before we get attacked, rather than the instant it occurs. I mean, who'd be stupid enough to activate their armour as soon as someone started shooting? Oh, wait. Me. Thats because you didn't tell us. At least, I didn't see it anywhere. Publish 9 is a Jedi Publish. Where's the "Oh, by the way, we're frelling with your armour" warning on the loading screen? I'd rather know that than the fact that people who's accounts have been active 30 days are getting nice shiney pictures.
First off, make sure everyone is warned about this, including the players who don't frequent the forums. People aren't taking notice of what publish 9 does, because its about Jedi. A lot of us think the abundance of Jedi people is a little stupid, and not needed.
Second, make it less stupid. Just pairing up the identical items with a single penalty would do...arm both bracers at once, and both biceps (on Composite). Right now, equipping armour just looks stupid. Instead of a suit of armour magically appearing, little chunks of armour are magically appearing. It'd be alright if the delay was just combat. But right now, I'm having to run around waiting for my armour to equip itself before I can do anything.
Third, make some more action emotes. If we're gonna have to wait around while armour equips, then at least give us some more things to do while it applies itself. Standing around for 30 seconds is stupid.
First off, make sure everyone is warned about this, including the players who don't frequent the forums. People aren't taking notice of what publish 9 does, because its about Jedi. A lot of us think the abundance of Jedi people is a little stupid, and not needed.
Second, make it less stupid. Just pairing up the identical items with a single penalty would do...arm both bracers at once, and both biceps (on Composite). Right now, equipping armour just looks stupid. Instead of a suit of armour magically appearing, little chunks of armour are magically appearing. It'd be alright if the delay was just combat. But right now, I'm having to run around waiting for my armour to equip itself before I can do anything.
Third, make some more action emotes. If we're gonna have to wait around while armour equips, then at least give us some more things to do while it applies itself. Standing around for 30 seconds is stupid.
XellossMetari
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:29 am
#488
I 100% agree except for the part I highlighted.
Simmern wrote:
-- Jedi heals and Jedi heal states lags on the combat queue, sometimes for a good 5-8 seconds.
-- No color crystals.
-- Lance saber is significantly better than other sabers.
-- No paintings
-- Robes are **edit**
-- Robes look **edit** (arms too short)
-- Master Robe is too short at the bottom and arms are too short.
-- Out of 48 pearls that i tuned today, 40 of which were VERY GOOD, only 3 turned out nice in the conversion. (3x 45-50dmg, -9 etc.)
-- I am now left with 45 ball shaped door stops, which cost me 10million each at one point. (thanks soe!!)
-- Knight trial mobs, like Stintrail Prowlers are INSANELY difficult to find, 7 hours and I only found 1.
-- Forcerun3 uses 500 force... silly.
-- Lightsaber damage is not good enough.
-- People are now able to complete the same pve grind as old 4-4-4-4 guardians in 10% of the time.
-- Previous 4-4-4-4 guardians have been screwed.
I love you SOE!
...no
....really.
Ghrey
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:29 am
#489
Well ... little less to say other than /chuckle
Can we get a non-BH Publish 9 thread going? I mean seriously people. I sat here for 25 minutes of my lunch break and read the same thing 300 times. There was unique thought on occasion. I must of missed something... Was Publish 9 mis-titled to Secrets of the Force. Cause going from the arguments here it appears it was supposed to be titled Publish 9: Fix Every Problem BHs Ever Had
This publish was one of the most longest awaited publishes. Every person that played knew it was in the future, every person knew it was going to happen, and every person submitted thoughts and suggestions. The fact that we have come to this point of a Jedi revamp and we are complaining about all the non-jedi stuff they didn't fix just boggles my mind.
Agreed there are a few things wrong with the Jedi system still, as every system. But this was solely designed as a Jedi Publish. They rewrote the entire system, give them some credit they did an entire reworking of a system in the time they do a standard bug fix publish.
I found this thread entertaining, but found little to no information useful.
-Ghrey out
Performer of Arts - Sunrunner
Can we get a non-BH Publish 9 thread going? I mean seriously people. I sat here for 25 minutes of my lunch break and read the same thing 300 times. There was unique thought on occasion. I must of missed something... Was Publish 9 mis-titled to Secrets of the Force. Cause going from the arguments here it appears it was supposed to be titled Publish 9: Fix Every Problem BHs Ever Had
This publish was one of the most longest awaited publishes. Every person that played knew it was in the future, every person knew it was going to happen, and every person submitted thoughts and suggestions. The fact that we have come to this point of a Jedi revamp and we are complaining about all the non-jedi stuff they didn't fix just boggles my mind.
Agreed there are a few things wrong with the Jedi system still, as every system. But this was solely designed as a Jedi Publish. They rewrote the entire system, give them some credit they did an entire reworking of a system in the time they do a standard bug fix publish.
I found this thread entertaining, but found little to no information useful.
-Ghrey out
Performer of Arts - Sunrunner
Clem_Koose
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:30 am
#490
As far as the weapon changing goes: I am on Radiant and as Long as my combat que is empty I have hardly no wait to change weapons. I dont change armor so I have no comment on it. But I think as long as your que is empty you shouldn't have a very long wait. if you combat que is full it will take until all the actions requested are done prior to the weapon change. I have found that just by hitting clear it will make the weapons change. It doesn't bother me at all. I have found no bad things so far about this publush. Except that it was incorrectly stated about the calling mounts from the toolbar, that would be very helpful if they did put that in.
Clem Koose
MasterWeaponsmith
MasterCarbineer
LoBai
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:52 am
#491
Ashdanjadestel wrote:
For the record...the word edited out of my last entry was p-o-s-t...thats right, post
Devs are killing what can be a great game, no doubt.
Lets summarize shall we?
Vendor Interface = fooked
PvP = fooked
PvE = fooked
Awards = fooked - yes I know we get them tomorrow, biut the point is they couldn't get it right.
Ubese armor shirts and belts = fooked
Fake jedi in starports = fooked - how does this enhance the Star Warsy feel? Is this a joke...I'm sure we could find Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, and Mace Windu suckin a slurpee at the 7-11 next right?
BH = fooked since launch
Politician = fooked since their debut
Vehicle repair = fooked since their debut
Smuggler = fooked since launch
It defies explanation why these things that are important to the game, have been ignored, and useles stuff gets added.
Do you recall the "special" offer to players who left? Wonder why they would need to do that in the first place? Maybe because it alarmed them how many people left? But they don't learn...they never learn...because they are adults, in a position of power...beyond reproach...and think that they know everything there is to know about this abortion they have created. Worse yet, they think they know what we want.
God help us allwe (mostly me) take this "GAME" way to seriouse.
Good job to the devs for making the PVP system a little more even. No more one sided battles, we are on the right path. To all of you who I know are great ppl, just hang in thier and see whats to come. Give it more than a day to sink in! I was able to take out a Padawan with little trouble with Iori' using a lightning cannon and didn't even have my chest plate on. We did that all night and he never ever beat me! Just use your skill and don't rely so much on what you were given in the past! BH was way way way way to beefed up in the begining and now is having to join the rest of the galaxy as a mortal not a god. I'm saying this in honesty! Lets just have fun and see if we can overcome this and use our brains! They haven't changed jedi enough to keep me from kicking thier butt, and I'm not that good at PVP! PLEASE EVERYONE JUST GIVE IT A CHANCE.
It's kind of like the old saying the grass is always greener on the other side. No matter what MMORPG you are playing you will run into the same issues over and over. Star Wars is in our blood at least for me it is. I'll play as long as the game is around
NOW LETS GET OFF THIS POST AND GO KICK SOME JEDI BUTT. This time maybe it will be a challenge? Think about it!
OH YEA GET THE JEDI TRACKING FIXED NOW!
LoBai Master Doc Radiant
Iori' MBH Radiant
JediBlade
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:00 am
#492
I understand and completely agree with the Armor Delay during combat. However, I don't see it's point when not in a combat situation. If I'm not currently fighting something I should be able to switch back and forth as normal. Especially when I'm testing a new macro to see if my clothes and armor will switch properly.
4Bidden
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:06 am
#493
Chat and friends list is all messed up... I can see friends in front of me but the friends list has them listed asoffline. Guildchat, groupchat and /tells dont work. May the force be with us now....hahahahahahaha
SciCabbit
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:10 am
#494
Liani wrote:
Casper, the Bloodfin Jedi, opined: I hate to tell you, but all changes in SWG have to go through Lucas Arts first. So, if Lucas Arts agree's to all changes, then its still star wars'ie in their minds. I wouldn't doubt if George Lucas himselfs plays.
(I'll bet you 10000000 credits he is not a bounty hunter!)
I am a Pistoleer.
I ran missions on Dantooine last night. (6-29-04)
2 of my missions did not pay any reward. This bug repeats every time I run missions there.
To repeat this bug, group with any number of people and run missions on Dantooine.
This bug is related to Publish 9, 8, and 7.
Bug reports have been filed. There has been NO RESPONSE.
Liani
Message Edited by Liani on 06-30-2004 09:41 AM
I run Missions On Dantooine in a Solo Group yesterday, and 100% of my Missions Paided. Your problem is that you are doing your missions in a Very High Populated Area. More likely Mining outpost where you get your Solo Group.
Try this, Group with a Solo Group, and go to another town on the Far Side of the planet. Or go to another planet all together to get your missions. I normally hunt 8km away from Mining outpost.
Casper