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Thread: Publish 10 ... holocredit for unlockers.

SirLithium
Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:24 pm
#495



ryet0ast wrote:
The real question of the hour is, is 32 professions considered 100%? And are they going to compensate you for obtaining 100%. I like many other today have finally finished the grind, all 32 professions done and out of the way. But no unlock message and no jedi. So what happens to us tomorrow when publish 10 rolls around? ...it better be good =(


Um... this is interesting. You mastered 32 professions and you didn't get the unlock message? You are by no means in common territory. Is there anyone else out there that this has happened to? If you want an opinion, you're going to be in the same situation as the Post9 unlockers. You'll need to do the Entry Quest, get your rewards (6 trees, and all the XP to fill them), do the Exit Quest, and then on to Padawan.



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ryet0ast
Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:31 pm
#496

There are about 10 people just like me..

Check the Jedi forums, its a sad day



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NodozeHyde2
Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:58 pm
#497

wow ryetoast, thats not good man... it means in the last few days, i finished 25 and 26, those could've been my silent (highly unlikely cause my luck sucks...lol). I will pray that you get the same treatment as the other post9ers bud. If not, hmmmm.... tis a very sad day.



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you think it looks cool even though
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you really do think it looks cool
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in and are afraid people won't like you if
you don't say you think it looks cool."
ZorPrimus
Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:02 pm
#498






Vodo-Kai wrote:

I've said this once and I'll say it again. Givingthe undedicated playerthe same amount of credit asthe dedicated player to the old system is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. It's like saying in the new system... If a player has done 4 quest they should be as advanced as someone who has done 20 or more. Another way of putting it is, if the old system stayed in place, the dedicated player would eventually get Jedi where as the undedicated player wouldn't. That is why I belive we (hologrinders) will get more credit then the lazy player that gave up when they hit silent. Also...





So your saying because myself and others who didn't hologrind b/c they liked their toons as they were and wanted something more creative than hologrinding to become a Jedi and simply played the game lazy? We aren't dedicated players? Your better than us because you grinded 20+ professions? Sorry I can't see that. I am not knocking your decision to log onto a game for the sole purpose of grinding to get to Jedi.Hours and hours of playing to do this, do that, jump, shoot,craft, heal, etc etc...all to get a lightsaber.Propsand kudos to all of you. Thats just not whatI chose to do.


To each their own. My point is this, why shouldn't other players who simply played the game for what it is an MMORPG not a MMOGUJ (Massive Multiplayer Online Grind Until Jedi) get recognition for having done what they wanted to in game and play the game, do quests, maybe even go through a couple of professions until they found something they liked.


Oh well, it'll all be a moot point by tomorrow morning...lets see what the devs got in store for us.









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Vodo-Kai
Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:43 pm
#499






ZorPrimus wrote:





Vodo-Kai wrote:

I've said this once and I'll say it again. Givingthe undedicated playerthe same amount of credit asthe dedicated player to the old system is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. It's like saying in the new system... If a player has done 4 quest they should be as advanced as someone who has done 20 or more. Another way of putting it is, if the old system stayed in place, the dedicated player would eventually get Jedi where as the undedicated player wouldn't. That is why I belive we (hologrinders) will get more credit then the lazy player that gave up when they hit silent. Also...





So your saying because myself and others who didn't hologrind b/c they liked their toons as they were and wanted something more creative than hologrinding to become a Jedi and simply played the game lazy? We aren't dedicated players? Your better than us because you grinded 20+ professions? Sorry I can't see that. I am not knocking your decision to log onto a game for the sole purpose of grinding to get to Jedi.Hours and hours of playing to do this, do that, jump, shoot,craft, heal, etc etc...all to get a lightsaber.Propsand kudos to all of you. Thats just not whatI chose to do.


To each their own. My point is this, why shouldn't other players who simply played the game for what it is an MMORPG not a MMOGUJ (Massive Multiplayer Online Grind Until Jedi) get recognition for having done what they wanted to in game and play the game, do quests, maybe even go through a couple of professions until they found something they liked.


Oh well, it'll all be a moot point by tomorrow morning...lets see what the devs got in store for us.











Yes, yes that is what I'm saying. I meen I enjoyed the game a lot. I've enjoyed my first mastered profession tka and I played it at master for over 6 months. I played a master smuggler for over 2 months. I still get tells to this day about how much people enjoyed my spice and it's low price. I havn't been a master smuggler for over 4 months now. I've played commando for 2 months. I enjoyed it a ton! I enjoyed almost every single thing I have grinded out. I have spent mass amounts of my time in order to obtain Jedi. Yet, I played the professions I mastered I had fun with them all.


I was also looking for badges before they became "easy" as so many people say. I kept looking for them as well even after they became "easer." I meen I enjoy this game to its full amount that it can be possibly be enjoyed too.


I stop grinding to show a player where to train novice. I tip a guy 32k credits just because he is low lvl and got ripped off by someone selling him a POS creature.


I do sooo much in this game, I help out as much as I possibly can. I do all this and on top of it I find time to "grind" out professions.


So yes... what I say is what I ment.


YOU and others like you are lazy players. You just want Jedi handed to you for mastering 4 professions. It just makes me sick.


I don't worry too much though because I'm sure the DEV's are smart enough not to give someone who hardly plays the game any amount of advancement into the new Jedi system.


I meen they want to keep Jedi rare and giving someone who masterd 4 professions a Jedi or any amount of advancement isn't going to happen.



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Vodo-Kai
Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:50 pm
#500


I also want to add... ThatI don't even expect 78% credit for all that I've done eather.



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RinceMeister
Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:04 pm
#501






ZorPrimus wrote:





Vodo-Kai wrote:

I've said this once and I'll say it again. Givingthe undedicated playerthe same amount of credit asthe dedicated player to the old system is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. It's like saying in the new system... If a player has done 4 quest they should be as advanced as someone who has done 20 or more. Another way of putting it is, if the old system stayed in place, the dedicated player would eventually get Jedi where as the undedicated player wouldn't. That is why I belive we (hologrinders) will get more credit then the lazy player that gave up when they hit silent. Also...





So your saying because myself and others who didn't hologrind b/c they liked their toons as they were and wanted something more creative than hologrinding to become a Jedi and simply played the game lazy? We aren't dedicated players? Your better than us because you grinded 20+ professions? Sorry I can't see that. I am not knocking your decision to log onto a game for the sole purpose of grinding to get to Jedi.Hours and hours of playing to do this, do that, jump, shoot,craft, heal, etc etc...all to get a lightsaber.Propsand kudos to all of you. Thats just not whatI chose to do.


To each their own. My point is this, why shouldn't other players who simply played the game for what it is an MMORPG not a MMOGUJ (Massive Multiplayer Online Grind Until Jedi) get recognition for having done what they wanted to in game and play the game, do quests, maybe even go through a couple of professions until they found something they liked.


Oh well, it'll all be a moot point by tomorrow morning...lets see what the devs got in store for us.










I'm not a holo grinder and have only been in the game since shortly before publish 9, but in my view the only basis for givingpartial credit for jediis the number of professions that you have mastered. The path to Jedi under the old system has been known for some time. Those who chose not to grind to Jedi made a choice to "play" rather than "grind". If you were playing you were not on the path to Jedi nor did you have an expectation of becoming Jedi, so why should you receive credit for "playing". Conversely those that chose to grind clearly had embarked on the path to Jedi and have expended a lot of time and effort in trying to achieve it. We may not have liked the old system, but those were the rules. The only question to be answered in my mind is should a holo profession count for more than a non-holo profession. I'd say yes, since someone who has one is further on the path than someone who doesn't. If someone got lucky under the old system they shouldn't have thatgood fortuneundone.


I've have every confidence that the holo credit will be fair, but I'm also equally confident that whatever solution SOE put in place, there will be a vocal minority who feelit is unfair.





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NodozeHyde2
Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:05 pm
#502

I agree a little with both of you guys... I am a grinder, 26 profs down the drain, no jedi and I do want my "compensation"... but I have many many friends who have not grinded, but have played since launch, and to not have any specific agenda daily, but still log on every night, is huge. Takes much dedication and surprises me how they didn't get bored... to have that much love for the game does deserve something... BUT, I don't think they should get any credit towards the FS quests only because they knew the old way to get jedi, they chose not to do it that way. Patch goes live tomorrow and you will all see me in aurillia at 5am, /salute to all of you and good luck on your FS journey.




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Nodoze Hyde - Elder Jedi
"Rawkin the pink hawk since before you thought it was cool,
because you want to fit in and say that
you think it looks cool even though
you don't like it, or maybe because
you really do think it looks cool
but more likely because you want to fit
in and are afraid people won't like you if
you don't say you think it looks cool."
Raggedranger
Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:09 pm
#503

i have been playing for around about 2 months now yeah n00b i know , 1st month pent kinda getting to grips with the game, then, patch 9 comes out cool, i think, having heard of the grinding and stuff, by this time i wanted to test out the 'grinding' but unfortunately, was too late, and by the time i got my holo, they were useless, kinda got annoyed at that, hearing the rumors that maybe holo proffs will be worth more, but hey, only rumors right i'm a collector of all 45 exploration badges, 11 proffs, 2 warrend, jabba's, imp, librarian and nym's, i ho0pe this will get me somewhere towards jedi, but if not i'll just play some more i dont mind grinding out the 110 million xp or so really doesnt bother me, i lead a great guild of ppl, and when i need a break we go do something stupid, like..... naked janta hunting or naked rancor hunting (unbuffed btw) i've yet to try a few proffesions, so will be trying to master those in the next few days that is, if the patch is delayed (what was it i heard about last tuesday?? anyway, /salute to you all and gl with youre jedi grind,
NodozeHyde2
Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:16 pm
#504

ROFL, smiley's up the wazoooo, priceless man



/-/Council of Eminence\-\
Nodoze Hyde - Elder Jedi
"Rawkin the pink hawk since before you thought it was cool,
because you want to fit in and say that
you think it looks cool even though
you don't like it, or maybe because
you really do think it looks cool
but more likely because you want to fit
in and are afraid people won't like you if
you don't say you think it looks cool."
GoodClaw
Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:56 pm
#505

Its kinda typical SOE has yet to offer us their breakdown of holocredit as they claimed they would in the start of this post. I'll be surprised if the compensation is anything beyond a few boxes for even those mastered 28+ The harder they make it the less practical being a decent jedi would be, as everyone and their alts will be doing the quests... KOTOR here we come hah



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Vodo-Kai
Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:29 pm
#506


Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the credit for the people who didn't unlock gets released in a publish 10.2 patch or something.



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Raggedranger
Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:48 pm
#507






NodozeHyde2 wrote:

ROFL, smiley's up the wazoooo, priceless man






hehe gotta stay positive whatever SOE throw at me i'll still be here i dont care wether they say, were taking all youre badges away, you gotta get em again, i'll go do it, cos even that was fun,being a jedi would be cool, in fact, its what i want to do, aye some ppl will call me a 5yr old n00b, but i dont care when my glow stick bashes j00 you'll know it. if i only get the 'novice FS' box i'll be happy, its only anothe 1 trillion xp to get my jedi from there


/salute


-Pave Oba-


ps, whats a good proff to go with rifleman i've got like 100+ sp left and dont know what to do with em
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