Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Publish 10 ... holocredit for unlockers.
SirLithium
Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:40 am
#482
Darkatrina wrote:Guys i keep reading that people thinking that u had 4 holo profs plus a silent 1 to do however if u will let me clarify this for u. Im unsure of the the exact date this changed as the csr's have not divulged this info however but it was a long long time ago but when they realised that so many were grinding and unlocking on 5 profs they changed it to 4 holos plus 4 silent so 8 in total.This was confirmed by csr's.
I'll keep it simple: Prove it. If this was confirmed by CSRs, then show us where.
Cypher073
Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:42 am
#483
Darkatrina wrote:Guys i keep reading that people thinking that u had 4 holo profs plus a silent 1 to do however if u will let me clarify this for u. Im unsure of the the exact date this changed as the csr's have not divulged this info however but it was a long long time ago but when they realised that so many were grinding and unlocking on 5 profs they changed it to 4 holos plus 4 silent so 8 in total.This was confirmed by csr's.
It was changed, but the number of silent professions is unknown, especially by the CSRs. No two CSRs answer the same question posed them even remotely alike. I wouldn't trust a CSR to tell me what game I'm playing, much less answer specific questions about it.
Dr_Nalio
Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:17 am
#484
Cypher073 wrote:
Where'd you get 24? I'll agree that they upped the number of required professions, that much is obvious, but to exactly 24?
I think that other poster was confused. I think he's taking the 24 skill boxes you need now in the FS branches and plugging that into the old system by mistake.
ZorPrimus
Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:02 pm
#485
My case...and please don't hate me for it all you hologrinders!
I've been PLAYING the game since July. I wanted to be a smuggler and started working pistols. As I finished the pistol branch of pistoleer I was told by a smuggler that the profession was so bugged it was useless. How sad...what should be one of the mostwell known professions in the Star Wars universe, not worth it.
I then started out as a potential Pistoleer/Squad Leader combo...got about half way through both. Seeing as how Squad Leader was going no where I dropped it. Pitty,it was mybelief that SquadLeader would shine in a future Space Expansion, looking at how things are now it still wouldn't have been worth keeping. I felt melee professions was something I did enough of in UO sooo....I started the path to Bounty Hunter.
I stuck with it...having mastered BH, with the Scout and Marksman pre-reqs. Enter the holiday Holocron gifts...ooh the tempation! One morning I woke up and said...the hell with it! I managed to get my hands on 5 holos and opened #1. The irony was like a slap in the face:
"You must master Pistoleer to advance further..." (or whatever the holo message is)
Months went by and I said well...I like BH too much to give it up. So I stayed as I was. Until of coarse all the BH bugs started really getting to me...dud marks...marks that never where...bogus wp's...Jedi missions...any BH out there can feel my pain. I decided, what the hell, I liked Pistoleer before...let me drop BH and go for it.Yadda yadda yadda...grind pistols like a madman...Dant, Dath, Yavin, Oh My!!! DING! Mastered pistoleer after a few weeksone day on Dant! Took my second holo aaaaaannnnnndddd!!!!
SILENT!
Either by means of the Force or some more funny irony I did not have to grind out professions to get to my silent holo. Anyways I decided to thank my lucky stars for such good fortune and not go and grind out profesions like a looney toon. I kept Pistoleer and am about halfway done with Smuggler (yes I gave in b/c I have faith in the profession). Now seeing all that I have done in the game by simply playing the game is it wrong to ask for some credit for what I did?The hologrinders would probably say HELL NO! And I can understand that. However for someone who plays the game, probably for the same amount of time as you hologrinders (take a look at my sig to see that I've done my share of grinding too) is it wrong to want to get some love? Thats all I ask.
Cypher073
Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:04 pm
#486
pluq wrote:there is no way to test or check how many there are, im just proving that there are more then 1
I think that's already been proven
Seriously though, I think the proof they were looking for in an earlier post was proof that a CSR confirmed it was 4 silent professions + 4 holo for a total of 8. I'd still like to see whomever made that assertion cough up a post or email or something from a CSR.
Goomesh
Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:27 pm
#487
Seeing how the patch hits tomorrow and I still don't know if my 8 months are wasted....when are you gonna deliver the details? I am a very understanding person and I don't complain about the rules of the game changingbut I have yet to see this information posted for us to see before it goes live. Am I missing something or are we just getting the run-around?
JustG wrote:
Based on some detailed conversations with the Correspondents, as well as your feedback, we have already implemented some changes on TC & TC2 for the credit you receive if you unlocked.
As you know, those that have unlocked between publish 9 & 10 will be given all 6 Force Sensitive branches that they need to proceed to Padawan.
Now, based on our interactions with the community, you will also be given the experience necessary to purchase all four boxes in each branch.
So: Intro Quest, Exit Quest, and on to Padawan. You can still do the Force Sensitive quests if you desire to gain their specific rewards.
We will announce the proportional credit for those who have not unlocked soon. It will be fair as well.
Thanks,
- g
torpid3d
Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:54 pm
#488
you will be giving credit for the holos you have done maybe 1 or 2 trees reason not much more is that you havn't really jumped on the band wagon toward teh path of the jedi....ie even veteren players who have played for ages but only did a few professions won't be given an unfair leap in the jedi advancement....
i have grinded 28 professions and hit my lucky profession....and i have played since pub 3.....i have over 100 badges it would be unfair to me if someone with 8 professions and the same or more badges (ackomplishments) than i get booted along side me or just under me.......not that i wouldn't like to have some fellow veterens alongside me grinding away just if they did would put my hard work to waste......as in why did i grind 28 prof and someone didn't put that much effort in and got jedi as well......but you will get credit what is due....that's for sure...and btw the quests are much more fun than holo grinding less expensive and less depressing esp for a combat profession as urself.
Vodo-Kai
Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:02 pm
#489
LaelaasSD wrote:
I just have to laugh at all the "Grinders" who have done 20+ proffs and still haven't unlocked are now complaining that the "Holo-profs" should't be "Worth" more than the non holo profs...
simple answer as to why they ARE worth more...
THEY ARE THE RIGHT PROFFS...and as such..are worth more.
2+2=4...no matter how much you whine complain and moan about it...2+2 will always Equal 4
4 holo's + the RIGHT profession = Jedi...not even Jedi...it opened your FSCS...wich allowed you to get to Jedi
You did the WRONG professions.....DEAL WITH IT.
If you take a test in school....and you answer 9 out of 10 questions wrong....YOU FAIL....you don't get rewarded...Do Not Pass Go....Do not collect $200....No Jedi....Quit Whining...and Deal
As for those who think that grinding jedi is going to be a pain...and you're going to have to do this whole conversion of xp all the way to jedi....no....its only till padawan....then you get force exp normally...still alot of work...but i can't wait...cause i for one think its worth it
i don't care how much credit i get...i have FUN playing this GAME....i've done my 4/5 holo's....been playing since July 03 done 2 proffs after holo's....
Devs keep up the good work....don't give in to the whining....whats 50 canceled accounts compaired to the 500,000 that are still active....Reward ONLY what was NECESSARY for FSCS....nothing more...nothing less.
Yeah... but, at the same time if you take a test with 32 questions and you only answer 4... I think you're going to fail worse then someone who answered 4 right and guessed on the other 20+!
Focker20
Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:42 pm
#491
GrinInc wrote:
JustG wrote:
cbill3 wrote:
I like the idea of what you are doing Devs, just wish something would come out officalliy for those peeps that haven't unlocked yet on thier silent holo prof. I can't ask for to much, so this is good. If a DEV can respond and let us know, that's be great.
Peace to the Rebellion and to the Empire...nay, kill the Empire
We will come out with more info, and it will be fair.
But why not stop the grind right now? Just play! You are going to make it soon enough anyway, and the village is very fun!
The way you are implementing the FS xp conversion the grind won't end for at least six more months of my gametime. You guys play on these servers. You have to know how grueling it is to grind that xp each day......grinding is not "Just Playing" or "very fun". That's why it's called the grind
But we are faced with it as our blockade to what many deem the most star warsy and fun thing to be, a Jedi. Let's face it, Jedi are Star Wars.
At the current level you have to cap out xp at least once per day to hit initiate. Yeah, it's doable, but do I really envision myself capping out each and every day for six months (if I can do it each day) and not just getting burnt out and quitting. I love this game and have been here for over a year, but hate that it's turned into Grind Wars. Not everyone who plays has that mentality.
Quests are great. Love the content, the story and the atmosphere btw. TC2 phase quest testing was one of the best experiences I've had since playing.
Man people have whined about the xp needed for padawan for so long. If you can't hack it quit. Its going to take too long?? I slightly remember in the beginning when the game was published it was said that ONLY the dedicated players will unlock. Do you know why?? B/c they know people like you will whine and cry and quit. WHO CARES!! Shut the freaking whining up. No one wants to hear it. I heard someone say it takes 110 mil weapons xp to have enough. Yeah its alot. But it boils down to two things either you do it or you don't. Thats it. The devs never said it would be a walk in the park. The reason they made such extreme requirements is to turn some of you off to the idea of becomming Jedi and to have something for the masters to do with all of the built up xp. What do you want. Yoda to float down from the sky and say you have been playing for over a year now. I say you should be Jedi. Not going to happen. This is ridicoulous. GREAT JOB DEVS BY TURNING THIS FOOL OFF OF JEDI. Less I have to worry about.
NodozeHyde2
Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:54 pm
#492
Jediforcefighter wrote:
When is the credits for people who haven't unlocked gonna be anounced? It's 8-30-04 and the pub 10 is tomorrow.
Yah....ummmm, I'm going to second that question. I am somewhat pescimistic and seem to think that they will delay pushing pub 10 live. Now don't get all mad, this isn't somethingI've heard from anyone oranywhere,I'm just paranoid and worrying now, lol. So I'm going to stay up till 5am (PST) til server resets to see, MWHAHAHAHA
kitarloh
Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:54 pm
#493
Hi everyone,
Like many people say the big question now is to know what sort of bonus have we won to do so many professions without unlock.
Indeed the publish come tomorow in a few (in fact i live in france and the publish comes today for me).
I have done all the professions except : Armorsmith, Droid engineer, Cheef, Bio engineer, Ranger, Bounty hunter,Image Designer and merchant.
i am affraid that i will not win anything an i will have to do all the quest.
Please give us a little information.
Ps : sorry if my english is bad, i wish to have some bonus for all the time i give to found the hiden profession.
have a good evening and i wish see many people in aurilla tomorow
ryet0ast
Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:16 pm
#494
The real question of the hour is, is 32 professions considered 100%? And are they going to compensate you for obtaining 100%. I like many other today have finally finished the grind, all 32 professions done and out of the way. But no unlock message and no jedi. So what happens to us tomorrow when publish 10 rolls around? ...it better be good =(