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Thread: The Path of the Jedi: Reckoning of Effort

Ethen_Roe
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:35 pm
#469

ALl i can say is:


the forums being down right slow and thousands of people on it, as well as they live chat being under moderation for hours and whats been said here sums up what they players that PAY for this game think


Oh and stop deleteing posts that dont swear or say anything thats untrue
Martinb4
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:35 pm
#470






iskareot wrote:





Keuller wrote:
You have received a new badge: Master Quitter
Bad Game Devs, bad business decision SOE, I warned you static timed gating would be unacceptable after over a year of play, but you've still got a distinct hearing problem it appears.





DEVS you did fine !!!(WHAT THE HELL DO YOU WANT THEM TO DO MAN)????? you did not unlock yet--- and they can or YOU DONT WANT 5000 jedi in the game overnight do you???


I mean really think for a second...I mean instant FS is not the answer man did you really think that they should just let 5000 people go FS instant>??







And do you think it was a smart idea to put in Jedi in the first place? Why even bother making the other 33 professions, when one is so much more appealing? Did anyone really think Jedi would be in game and 95% of the players would rather not be one? I'm sorry, they made an MMO with a class that is better/more appealing/etc. than the rest. It is the Perma FOTM.


The original poster in the quote had a good point. You are telling people that have been supporting this game (through thick and thin)for a year, that cetain content is not available to them. Heck, making the grind twice as long without the wait would be better. I just can't really comprehend this pay to wait mentality. I'm done with my template (for now,I rework it when i get bored with it), got all badges (except for half the prof ones), done all the content. so just wait? Wait my ass...Hope this changes soon. I've waited a year for stuff that should have worked from day 1. This is different though, my xp is capped. I'm not waiting on a fix here, but waiting to level up. That is the messed up part.





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theicecreamman
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:36 pm
#471

o yeah read the uhh agreement "game experince may change during online gameplay" o and u may cancel ur acc if u dont like the dam game!!



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jedhel
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:36 pm
#472

I forgot how lame hologrinders were.



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AngryHoopJumper
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:36 pm
#473


Dracass wrote:


Marick4 wrote:
Everyone please repeat after me:" THIS IS JUST A GAME" [...]
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Negative.

Repeat after me, "THIS IS AN ENTERTAINMENT SERVICE".

If I sliced and diced ye into many parts in the game and ye get upset and call me an Exploited, that be when, "Calm down, its just a game" comes into play.

People are payin' money fer a product in, which they feel its not bein' managed properly. If payin' money does not provide sufficient entertainment value, should they have a right to provide feedback or complaints? Or should it be, just look at the colorful flowers, if ye have a problem, shut-up and stop payin'?

Who are ye goin' to lay blame to when the population of customers are low? The customers that left or the management that made them decide to leave?



/salute


What you said is right on. It isn't about Imp vs. Reb. Or PVP vs. PVE. It's about SWG vs. the other forms of entertainment available to us during our leisure time.


I have no dog in the "hologrinder effort" fight - I left the game six months ago when it became clear that "4+1" had been replaced with "4+n" for a value of "n" which was uncomfortably large for me. The reward wasn't worth the effort, so I bailed. (I got rewarded for my effort -- in that I had six months and $90 to spend questing through Morrowind, fragging my way through Doom 3, and a case of really good beer!) I came back to avoid the character wipe, and to enjoy the content that had been added over the past six months. I've had a good enough time; I'd say I got my $15 worth. (Maybe even $30 worth if it should take me more than one month to finish it all. It's been fun to experience first-hand, Raph's pronouncement that players can churn through content faster than any Dev team can write it.)


The root cause of today's wave of unsubscriptions is going to be the fact that although the statistical evidence was widely available as far back as six months ago, but the Devs waited so long to own up to the fact that "4+1" ceased to be "4+1" six months ago.


(( And TH, if you're reading -- thanks for at least coming clean and admitting, publicly, that it was 4+4. The only flames SOE truly deserves today are the ones flaming them for taking so long to come clean with it. ))

Doszz
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:36 pm
#474

So confused...
So the village is double gated? You have to wait until your group to get into the village, then you have to wait for your correct phase to begin your quests and getting your force skills?

I'm a little slow and can't really understand TH's post(a straight no bs post would be great). Will I know when this santa old man will visit me(Never did a Holo, but the force is with me), or do I need to stand out in the wilderness for 2 weeks straight naked?

Any help in english would be appreciated.

I'm gonna order a pizza and watch Maury Povich, then Judge Judy.



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zenon-
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:37 pm
#475

Give us the 2nd character slot sooner because after everyone cancels i will need it to heal my battle fatigue since all of the dancers and musicians will be no more.



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iskareot
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:37 pm
#476






DJM_Order wrote:

WHY LIMIT PEOPLE INTO GROUPS ??


anyone that thinks its lag or sompthing thats just BS


you could put a city on every planet .... you could make the jedi city Huge....


If everyone can all grind any other prof at the same time ..... why cant we all grind Jedi ?


FAIR IS FAIR ..... QUIT ALL THE MYSTERY BS ... Award jedi to those that are willing to work for it .... because allot of us are we just have no idea how ... and how long we need to wait ....



I honestly dont see why everyone cant be jedi if they want ... same as a weponsmith.



Make it so that jedi takes SO DAM LONG TO GRIND THAT FEW WILL BOTHER.


thats the only fair system


Because i just know this new



"WAIT IN LINE TILL WE LET YOU IN BS IS JUST A CROCK"



if the village takes 2 months roughly to do ( as reported ) people in group 4 will have at LEAST 7 or 8 months to wait ... then they need to do the village for 2 months ... then other stuff just to Open FS .... then the real grind begins


wow sounds like ALLOT of fun to me... yay where can i send more money !!


and whats worse is allot of us have been on SWG for way over a year ....... WERE BURNED OUT!!!

now this wait and see BS is breaking the last straw .... I have no more energy ... so some new Excited player will probably get into the village before me .... im just loosing the feeling to work any harder on this game .


its like i got OLD and all the newbies are still so excited .... i dont want to compete with them to try and get in front of the line ... I should be alowed in because ive played since LAUNCH! and im SICK OF THIS GAME


@$#^@$%

T0zr





THis is too good and NOW Im sooooo glad these people arnt FS yet NOR JEDI-- this is a example of why it will be a wreck...




GOOD JOB DEVS thank you for not flooding the planets with these kind of people... it explains more and more of why you did things like you did..





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In the context of new development methods adopted within the past year by the studio responsible for Star Wars Galaxies, which a year ago saw several drastic changes to the game-world's overall experience, SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes."
traxtitan
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:37 pm
#477

i never knew why people hated the dev's and thought they where morons untill now



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IckKey-Bah
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:37 pm
#478






mythronde wrote:

So what you are primarily saying is that since I didn't bother with the holo-grind, and instead played the game I will be barred from entering the village for weeks? So I went to the end of every dungeon 4-5 times on every planet, finished every quest in every city on every planet, made MBH, master pistoleer, bought a house, fought int he GCW, killed and tracked jedi, collected more than 75 badges, hunted krayt dragons, kimo's etc etc etc. and I will be gated immediately. Wow, this game gets worse and worse with every publish. I "played" the game the way it was supposed to be played. I didn't grind professions, I became what I wanted and stayed there and RP'd the heck out of it and now I need to wait so the people who hurt the game the most can benefit. Thanks for all the love





ty mythronde for posting what exactly what i was thinking. Now i dont have to post a long message


actually dedicated players got the shaft...all for playing the game...and grinders mostly afkers for cheating the system get the glory.....thank you /finger





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Draethyl
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:38 pm
#479






Thunderheart wrote:


























So, massive hologrinders first... that's fair. But are we talking "wait until Phase 2 of the village before Group 1 gets the visit", or "wait until traffic dies down, and Phase 1 of the village is still active, and Group 1 gets the visit"?













TH if i automaticly qualify - where is my Old Man?













Ack! I am kinda bored with my main alt. I have over 100 badges and 32 proffession, been kill/loot till my head is numb...I cant even get enough effort to log on and was hoping for this to get me something to do and back into the game considering its what I have worked for..


Problem is I have to log in and 1 to 3 days is painfull to sit here and stare at the screen. I am having a hard time waited 6 hours guess I am not lucky cause I cant bring myself to wait much longer....with notn to do



Kalbo
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:38 pm
#480

It is all about the timing... the idea is fint but they should have told us before today.



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gaundi
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:38 pm
#481

This is the same thing you already posted...this does not help



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