Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Publish 10 Feedback, “The Jedi Trials”: Live Issues and Open Discussion
OhBob
Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:42 am
#443
this phase in crap is why I'll not be playing or paying anymore. Just another scheme of teasing you along to get you in game.
Warryyr
Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:11 am
#444
Entertainers need to train in MASTER MEDIC to unlock a branch that applies to us (Sense) in Phase 1 of the Village. What a joke!
THANKS FOR IGNORING ALL OF OUR POSTS ABOUT THIS. WONDERFUL JOB, TOP NOTCH. Communication? PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT. Buy a dictionary, get one at a library, steal one, ask a friend - because we received none of itregarding this very valid concern and very ridiculous requirement for Entertainers who wish to become Force Sensitive.
The first of many posts about this have started on the Entertainer boards.
I thought the Hologrind was over, TH? Thunderheart? *knocks* Are you really out there? Can you explain and justify to me why you now require a Master Dancer, Master Musician, and Master Entertainer to drop skills just to get Master Medic and unlock the Senses branch? If they don't do it in Phase 1, they're at a 3 week disadvantage.
This is NOT RIGHT.
What a wonderful warm feeling you've given us all, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
Thanks for nothing. Again.
Reply if you care.
Anyone who wishes to flame me regarding Entertainers and Force Sensitivity, save your energy. You CAN unlock your FS branches - go play and get to it. We deserve the opportunity to advance in the Village just like anyone else. Case closed.
Message Edited by Warryyr on 09-08-2004 09:11 AM
SirLithium
Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:25 am
#445
Did you talk to Paemos and ask him to "teach me new uses of the Force"? This is the 5th or 6th conversation option. If you asked this question and he says you don't have free skills, then it is most certainly a bug. Could you give more details? FYI, I only mastered 11 professions, 6 after my silent, and received 3 free trees. Also, note that Paemos can only unlock the trees for you. You have to go to Noldan to get trained in the skills.
Ressources_Trader wrote:I have a problem with free box.I have grind 18 prof (4 holo and search one silent).I see the old man.Kill the sith and the camp.Go to the village.When I talked to Paemos, he says me that I don't have free skill.
Is it a bug or what ?????????18 prof before patch 10 and 0 free skillAre U going to repair that ??
SirLithium
Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:43 am
#446
I've got to say that I love this new system. Yes, there are plenty of people who are VERY vocal about all the things they DISlike about it, but the fact that we only have to grind on 1 or 2 professions to get our FS XP is brilliant. Yes, it's still a grind, but you're not dropping a profession you love to pick up another, over and over again. I'm a Master Tailor, and have been for about 7 months. I love it. I ground out 11 total professions without dropping Tailor, because I have a huge client base. The fact that I can grind Tailory XP and convert it to FS XP is wonderful.
It would be GREAT if there was a way to earn FS XP through the quests. Even 20-30k XP for finishing a quest would be great. It just seems that some of the quests don't have significant rewards, and ALL other quests in the game give some form of XP. It would also be nice if more of the quests would have "on-going rewards" like the 'healing wounded villagers' quest. The Crafting Quest for Phase I took me about 1.5 hours to gather all the specific resources... then all that was left was grinding for 3 weeks.
It would be GREAT if there was a way to earn FS XP through the quests. Even 20-30k XP for finishing a quest would be great. It just seems that some of the quests don't have significant rewards, and ALL other quests in the game give some form of XP. It would also be nice if more of the quests would have "on-going rewards" like the 'healing wounded villagers' quest. The Crafting Quest for Phase I took me about 1.5 hours to gather all the specific resources... then all that was left was grinding for 3 weeks.
Message Edited by SirLithium on 09-08-2004 02:56 PM
blonderedhead
Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:59 pm
#447
Might as well put this down here too. OKay recently i was visited by the old man then a night later the sith visited me killed them and got the waypoint activated the waypoint. Now the problem, the activated waypoint spawned inside someones house Now i cant get to the camp that im suppose to investigate. the waypoint disappers and the spawn doesnt appear. Please get this checked out im screwed now i cannot advance in these quests unless more sith visit me. i hope they do.
IGN Marsvolta, Bria
SirLithium
Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:21 pm
#448
blonderedhead wrote:Might as well put this down here too. OKay recently i was visited by the old man then a night later the sith visited me killed them and got the waypoint activated the waypoint. Now the problem, the activated waypoint spawned inside someones house Now i cant get to the camp that im suppose to investigate. the waypoint disappers and the spawn doesnt appear. Please get this checked out im screwed now i cannot advance in these quests unless more sith visit me. i hope they do.IGN Marsvolta, Bria
This was a rather common problem on TC. One work-around was to go to another planet. The Sith Camp sometimes appeared on the new planet at a new location. Be sure that you /bug this in-game, too.
Virtuell
Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:40 pm
#449
SirLithium wrote:
It would be GREAT if there was a way to earn FS XP through the quests. Even 20-30k XP for finishing a quest would be great. It just seems that some of the quests don't have significant rewards, and ALL other quests in the game give some form of XP. It would also be nice if more of the quests would have "on-going rewards" like the 'healing wounded villagers' quest. The Crafting Quest for Phase I took me about 1.5 hours to gather all the specific resources... then all that was left was grinding for 3 weeks.
Message Edited by SirLithium on 09-08-2004 02:56 PM
I concur with SirLithium that you should earn XP through the quests. The ratio for exchanging crafting xp to fs xp is ridiculous (from 120KAS crafting xp = 24K fs xp - no more exchange for me there!)since it is hard to grind crafting (no chance an AS will craft there entire stock of armors!) - tune up the ratio toatleast 2:1or 1:1 for crafters (a bit less for Architacts/Artisans). The other aspect for crafters is the humongus amount of resources it would take to grind for the XP, not good at all... On the other hand, you should have made the quests giving FS XP instaead of this mindless grinding.
To mention for the fighters that want to become jedi just can take mission, earn alot of money and then convert xp. If I remember this right, the Jedi isguardians of peace not war - så why letting ppl get easy weapon/combat xp when try to achieve Jedi initiate? On the other hand the magic is beginning to fade away from the game the more you alter the reality of StarWars and the game isbecoming thehunt for Jedi initiate.
Why not have classeslike Dark Side Maruder, Emperor's Hand and Dark Side Prophet so it atleast can reflect on the era -Jedi should be rare and be hunted down effectively by the empire!
I find the lack of good alterations, disturbing...
Otherwise I think this patch/upgrade is rather good.
Message Edited by Virtuell on 09-10-2004 08:47 AM
tib-infinity
Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:29 am
#450
the whole new jedi system is rubbish.
The caps are seriously unfair for certain professions.
The exchange rate sucks.
New people who come into the game will be either doc, entertainer or a combat prof because they are the only profs that will allow you to gain fs xp - all other profs are dead
AP no longer has a purpose
The community spirit is lost as a majority want a jedi and they know the quickest way to get it is to grind xp (it is still grinding) by soloing things
by bringing int his new system it has destroyed the game.
oh yeah good idea to activate the fs village you need to collect badges... now i have all the badges and 2 fs trees,what am i supposed to do? grind xp like everyone else? dont think so cos it's boring as is the patrol quest in the village. spice it up a bit 3 hours of going round in circles is dull
celticprince
Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:39 am
#451
Yeah they need to fix this .. anyone that did a holo profesion mastered the holo wether they did 1 or 3 should get one free branch .. its not fair that someone with 2 holos and no other profesions mastered gets to have a free branch like someone with 3 holos finished while those of us that were unlucky enough to only be able to master one profesion ( a holo profesion ) and get no free branches.. come on ......
your lack of sensible publishes and patches is rather disturbing......
/ForceChoke the devs /ForceLightning the devs
ohh and ... i noticed.. the crafting non combat profesions seem to have a smaller amount of fs xp needed to get thier fs skills.. but the conversions are very badly skeewed .. i say make it totaly dependent on quests and no xp required .. say like a huge theme park .... spaning all the planets... with like 6 npcs per planet to do 5 quests for to get your skills and slowly work your way up like that ... kinda like luke had to do in the movies.... he had to planet hope and go to dagobah to meet yoda ... the theme park could end in us meeting master yoda and becoming jedi initiates ... makes more sense then what you currently having us do and would be funner .. maybe not easier or harder but it would be a true quest based system
celticprince
Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:42 am
#452
P.S. if anyone thinks my post above about the theme park quests to unlock is any good rate me up please
here is what i said about a theme park unlock system ( ohh and ... i noticed.. the crafting non combat profesions seem to have a smaller amount of fs xp needed to get thier fs skills.. but the conversions are very badly skeewed .. i say make it totaly dependent on quests and no xp required .. say like a huge theme park .... spaning all the planets... with like 6 npcs per planet to do 5 quests for to get your skills and slowly work your way up like that ... kinda like luke had to do in the movies.... he had to planet hope and go to dagobah to meet yoda ... the theme park could end in us meeting master yoda and becoming jedi initiates ... makes more sense then what you currently having us do and would be funner .. maybe not easier or harder but it would be a true quest based system )
Pigeon281
Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:35 am
#453
I have a question maybe someone can answer. I was visited by the old man three days ago. Then just today as I had a fighting macro on I was ambushed by the two sith and was killed. They took the crystal. The old man showed up again and gave me a new crystal after i cloned. The force sensitive quest journal on the crystal says i completed the attacker quest but i really didnt. Will they come back to attack me again so I can start my jedi quest?
DarkRenown
Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:49 am
#454
Warryyr wrote:
Entertainers need to train in MASTER MEDIC to unlock a branch that applies to us (Sense) in Phase 1 of the Village. What a joke!
Thanks for writing this Warryyr, it appliesto pure crafters as well. If we want to unlock the Surveying tree, we apprently need to become a Master Medic. So for me to get all the branches I want, the 4 crafting and 1 senses, I will be forced to drop one of my current professions to grind medic out to do it.
How ridiculous is this!
Jindain
Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:48 am
#455
This is Jindain of Bria
Master Pikeman
Master Brawler
I talked to old man and got a force crystal. Have not been attacked by sith yet, but i got a Waypoint "Find Mellichae's Camp" so i went there and there was nothing. So i left planet, went back, nothing there. Went to a few places and getting no results. Please help!