Development Cycle Archive

Thread: Friday Feature Jan 23rd Jedi Revamp

Wayto
Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:50 am
#404






Zooey wrote:

Q!


We need to be told what you mean! The post is ambiguous to whether this is AFTER you've opened the force slot, or BEFORE?


I've just started my holo grinding...I wiped my character to do so. Should I continue to professions I don't want, or fix him and wait?


We need to be told this NOW.


-zoo









Well, Zooey described the main concern for many players including myself.


What to do right now for the current players "holo grinding" ?


Should we better stop ?


Is the "recognition" for players having started to work toward opening their FS slot worth completing more holocron professions ?


People in our situation are somewhat stuck till we get more explanations...


Best Regards.

Selenim
Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:51 am
#405

Great news!


But i still think the hologrinding should bot be revocated, because it is a good way to make players try some professions they never would have taken without this...


And the real nightmare with hologrinding is that once you have achieved your 4 holo professions you don't know what to do and haven't unlock FS...


So if players are sure to unlock FS in grinding a known number of holo professionAND doing the quests, it would be perect.



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Raevi
Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:55 am
#406

I would like to say that i believe this will be very unfair to those who have done all the holos and now are searching for the SECRET SKILL i have mastered so many profesions it would be unfair to those who have tried very hard to get the skill but are still searching and if becomming a jedi become quest oriented then jedi will become more availiable i thougt jedi would be rare the way u guys have it set up if it was quest oriented and i have sat here an already masterd things all of the marksman and its elites before the patch which gave the mastey badges and ive done master med, master artisan, master entertainer, master ch, master brawler master tkm master fencer (as soon as i get app pnts) and pikeman i mean no that i have droped my skills and it will be quest oriented i basically grinded for nothing and what stops someone from going out in a group and getting the quest done at teh same time and if not that not even grouped they could just help on the side the what will we hav eajust guilds and guilds full of jedi? i elive the system u have had for obtaining 4th sens was very good its just not in my opp to change it know while it was keeping very good balance on things like people who got say master chef like my brother did and was like well i guess im not going jedi shouldnt have the privlage to become one but for some of us who got like master ch and then master tk and so on so forth and this is ch after the patch by the way i believe the ones who have put effort into it like i have should not see it change like this while we have put so much effort in trying to become one and the balance is good if the key to keeping balance to jedi was the system u had in place now thats why its like it is now still pretty rare but when u change it to quest orriented ive already seen peoples profiles with all these freakin badges and its like where else can they go REALLY the way the system was set up was fine like it is no revamping the skill tree and the death stuff thats fine but for those who have actually put hard work into becomming one i know u guys say that will not go overlooked but for the people who just as they got there first holo and didnt do it then i think thats where they shouldnt have the choice in taking quest i could understand if u did four holos and the 5th went silent and then instead of silent it told u to go do a quest or something like that then yea but for me it went silent and ive been chasing it ever sence it just seems to me the people who didnt even do the first holo shouldnt really get the chance to become one through quest because of the fact say if u got master weaponsmith on your first holo then ull be like awwwwww mannnnn


but for folks like me who sat here and grinded and belive me entertainers ITS ALL ABOUT YOU

Anjh
Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:59 am
#407

i am soooo happy to hear the grinding system is being changed


i'm not pursuing jedi but having so much of the player base grinding miserably (as fast and as afk as possible) through classes they didn't want to play was bad (and it was ruining my immersion *grin*)


kudos to those who found it refreshing to be 'forced' to try new things, good attitude on ye!, but you were definitely in the minority and so many people were not having fun





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Raevi
Sat Jan 24, 2004 7:00 am
#408


I would like to say that i believe this will be very unfair to those who have done all the holos and now are searching for the SECRET SKILL i have mastered so many profesions it would be unfair to those who have tried very hard to get the skill but are still searching and if becomming a jedi become quest oriented then jedi will become more availiable i thougt jedi would be rare the way u guys have it set up if it was quest oriented and i have sat here an already masterd things all of the marksman and its elites before the patch which gave the mastey badges and ive done master med, master artisan,master entertainer, master ch, master brawler master tkm master fencer (as soon as i get app pnts) and pikeman i mean no that i have droped my skills and it will be quest oriented i basically grinded for nothing and what stops someone from going out in a group and getting the quest done at teh same time and if not that not even grouped they could just help on the side the what will we hav eajust guilds and guilds full of jedi? i elive the system u have had for obtaining 4th sens was very good its just not in my opp to change it know while it was keeping very good balance on things like people who got say master chef like my brother did and was like well i guess im not going jedi shouldnt have the privlage to become one but for some of us who got like master ch and then master tk and so on so forth and this is ch after the patch by the way i believe the ones who have put effort into it like i have should not see it change like this while we have put so much effort in trying to become one and the balance is good if the key to keeping balance to jedi was the system u had in place now thats why its like it is now still pretty rare but when u change it to quest orriented ive already seen peoples profiles with all these freakin badges and its like where else can they go REALLY the way the system was set up was fine like it is no revamping the skill tree and the death stuff thats fine but for those who have actually put hard work into becomming one i know u guys say that will not go overlooked but for the people who just as they got there first holo and didnt do it then i think thats where they shouldnt have the choice in taking quest i could understand if u did four holos and the 5th went silent and then instead of silent it told u to go do a quest or something like that then yea but for me it went silent and ive been chasing it ever sence it just seems to me the people who didnt even do the first holo shouldnt really get the chance to become one through quest because of the fact say if u got master weaponsmith on your first holo then ull be like awwwwww mannnnn


but for folks like me who sat here and grinded and belive me entertainers ITS ALL ABOUT YOU that is the most boring thing that i have ever been through u guys deserve more maybe make money off the town u dance in instead of hoping to get a tip because there far apart if any i just belive the way u guys have becomming a jedi now is working very well if u remove it the jedi's being rare will be no more i think it should be for the ones like us who sit here and try different aspects of the game instead of someone who gets in a comfort zone when i started my jedi grind i have come from haveing over 4 mil to having nothing and this is just for grinding materials and grinding florals u name it i did it trips not counting pearls i have or crystals stored away in my backpack at home ive just done alot to try and become one and still have not achieved it thats why i believe the way u have the system now is working very well

sabermaster81
Sat Jan 24, 2004 7:13 am
#409


Jedi should be quest oriented in the first place in the movies u didnt become a jedi by becoming a Bh or squad leader u became a jedi by missions and stuff this makes it more real and more understandable good job devs very nicebiwan:



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chilledsoul
Sat Jan 24, 2004 7:15 am
#410

Eeeexcellent! *rubs hands with an evil grin*



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Cenobit
Sat Jan 24, 2004 7:16 am
#411

you once said minority as bh class would get last in fixing BUT we have had droid bugs from even before the jedi class and now you do what ya said you would not do!!!


GREAT


fix the droids start loving the bounty hunters also!





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R2DADROID
Sat Jan 24, 2004 7:30 am
#412

I'd like to see Friday Features that are somewhere between coloring your ride and completely gutting the game.




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JediJamie
Sat Jan 24, 2004 7:31 am
#413

Excusme for saying this but you Devs must be Moran's ! You make us promise after promise after promise and you don't come though at all. Day one of this game I bought a 1 year pagage to play it all year because I bought in to your promise. I am a Huge Star Wars fan like many others here. My Dream was to play a JEDI in a MMORPG Star Wars online game. You get us all hyped up for it and make us belive it can be done. Just to take it away from us ! I will tell you guys one thing right now you have taken the Star Wars Univers and F.U.C.K.E.D. IT UP ! I am very surpised George Lucas lets you get away with it. Well you guys need to pull yoru heads out of your A.S.S.E.S. and wake up ! There are A LOT of other MMORPG'S coming out this year. You have already lost more than HALF your customers from Game Launch and your getting ready to lose alot more by being morans again ! all your going to have left is a hand full of players who had enough time on there hands to become jedi left on the game. Let's See how your Player Relaying world works with out the players ! I was a Master Bounty Hunter. A profession that was fun and somewhat enjoyable. But I droped it to chance a Dream of being a Jedi. And for what only to get srewed in the end.. ! ? ! ? You guys care about your say you care about us your Players ? Your CUSTOMERS !.. B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T ! You care about yourselves and your money. If you guys take away all our long hrs of HARD work and time I like many others am Out of Here....



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JediJamie
Sat Jan 24, 2004 7:32 am
#414


Excusme for saying this but you Devs must be Moran's ! You make us promise after promise after promise and you don't come though at all. Day one of this game I bought a 1 year pagage to play it all year because I bought in to your promise. I am a Huge Star Wars fan like many others here. My Dream was to play a JEDI in a MMORPG Star Wars online game. You get us all hyped up for it and make us belive it can be done. Just to take it away from us ! I will tell you guys one thing right now you have taken the Star Wars Univers and F.U.C.K.E.D. IT UP ! I am very surpised George Lucas lets you get away with it. Well you guys need to pull yoru heads out of your A.S.S.E.S. and wake up ! There are A LOT of other MMORPG'S coming out this year. You have already lost more than HALF your customers from Game Launch and your getting ready to lose alot more by being morans again ! all your going to have left is a hand full of players who had enough time on there hands to become jedi left on the game. Let's See how your Player Relaying world works with out the players ! I was a Master Bounty Hunter. A profession that was fun and somewhat enjoyable. But I droped it to chance a Dream of being a Jedi. And for what only to get srewed in the end.. ! ? ! ? You guys care about your say you care about us your Players ? Your CUSTOMERS !.. B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T ! You care about yourselves and your money. If you guys take away all our long hrs of HARD work and time I like many others am Out of Here....



D.A.M.N. I am too angery to write any more








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and Founder of The Light of Ossus
"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is"
Sitharian
Sat Jan 24, 2004 7:35 am
#415

humm..so holocrons are just more junk filling up my bank inventory,like so much other crap that drops off mobs.WTB mobs that drop something worth more than a few hundred creds now that holos are worth jack **edit**[some kinda rare or useful items would be nice].WTB players who wanna play professions too,not just as a stepping stone to jedidom omg!.FFS lets rename the game JediQuest,cos thats all anyone gives a stuff about.I liked the idea of professions and classes in the game,variety is interesting,but nah lets all play jedis, how interesting that will be ;PpP.[oh and BH so they so they can go kill jedis[ humm thats a real long lasting theme there],this game really need to open up on the end game ,provide interesting places to visit and mobs to kill[not just eye candy and crappola lootz ] and get away from this single track obsession with being a jedi and actuallygive people the incentive to play the game!!

p.s. also wtb more than a bookcase or chair /w my rebel pts[while furniture is great,a chair dun help much when being shot at by some gimp errr imp at 100 paces]....oh yeah a 5k ham pet, i forgot about dat[very useful when up against a at-st.... woot!]
CorruptDesann
Sat Jan 24, 2004 7:35 am
#416

i didnt read all the post but this is what i have got to say:


1. jedi revamp? where are the most important issues in your list like saber decay and the aquisition of rare saber components?


2. in your christmas post you suggested that i store my holocron so that i could sell it at a later date for a higher prise and now your making them worthless? 'thanks'


3. (It should also be noted that players who have put in work towards becoming a Jedi will not lose their effort. Some sort of recognition of players' efforts will be included in the new system.) Excuse me? im sorry but this doesent fill me with much hope, how is SoE going to give me recognition for the millions of credits spent and the months of gameplay time sacrificed following the only available path to Jedi, well i have only one more thing to say: with that statement you have outlined your judgement day, i dont know what you have planned for 'recognition' for my efforts but it better be friggin' brilliant.
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