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Thread: On Mandalorian Armor

JediStickboy
Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:37 pm
#404

Futher more...


a quote by THUNDERHEART... yes it relevent..think about it a min...


but the reason Creature Handlers are being re-balanced is because players can get the combat benefits of the Creature Handler Tree for the skill point cost of 2 trees (essentially all the benefit for half the skill point price) and having three pets out is a major perk for Creature Handlers. If everyone can do it, then its not a perk.


so, everyone eles get 70+ ranged def and melee def and junk and RIFLE ONLY weapons and what ever eles.. for the cost of 2 mastered professions...


I am a Master Bounty Hunter.. i have to MASTER 3 Professions....THREE. Just to be what i want to be.. and ONE of those professions (Scout) i do not use at all.. but to harvest ..... So.. where is my perk.. really....


I get to hunt NEWBIE JEDI that are loved and favored by all and given special attention, becasue OMFG that is where the money is.. everyone wants to be a jedi... WRONG.. Some of us LOVE Bounty hunter and what not from the day we seen Boba Fett.


You get to be MASTER JEDI with enough time and skill invested.. JUST like all YOUR favorite chars (Luke..Yoda..Darth vader.etc) Then why can I NOT become the Bounty hunter that I Wish... and have special TOYS and for the love of god.. Mandolorian armor ... witch if NOT for boba fett , jango fett (BOUNTY HUNTERS) you would not even know Exsisted in the first place....





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Covenant1234
Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:18 pm
#405

Heres my opinion on the Mandolorian Armor matter:


1. It should NOT be a Schematic.About everyone agrees on this,but let me explain the reason.As you well know,some Armorsmith are cons or charge you insane prices if you dont know them personally (as in Friend).Plus,once everyone hasthe Schem,and in time they will,What reason besides XP to go back to Death Watch? Keeping it ultra rare loot will extend Death Watch's life and replay value.Oh,and plus,who wants to gather resources for the armor? No one.


2.It should be Instanced.There are many camper and grievers,as well as cheaters,that will gladly exploit to get the armor.Instanced prevents that.You and your group can get the XP and Loot without having to worry about campers,or ATSTs.


3. It should be Ultra Rare (and I mean it) Loot.You dont want everyone with a suit of Mando armor.Also,to lower getting frustrated after hunting for hours with no luck,you should add other loot,but not as significate as the armor.And when you do loot it,it should be from 2-3 peices in the drop,so you dont have to spend countless days looking for some.I think Mando Armor loot drops should be as rare as One drop every 2 or 3 days.


4.It should be limited to people with Mastered Combat Professions,excluding CH.I also agree that you dont want a Merchant or Musician walking the streets with ultra rare armor,and most non-combat prof's dont want that publicity anyway (It could be me,and Im wrong lol).Since they are non-combat,what use would the armor be anyway? No use.Besides,Mandolorians were noble "warriors" and warrior explains any profession where you use Blasters,Heavy Weap.,Melee Weapons,and even TerasKasi.Therefore,the certification should be added to every Elite or Hybrid Combat Proffession,excluding CH's.


This is only my opinion.Debate away!






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Meara
Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:34 pm
#406

ok..Here is my 2 cents worth. If you decide from a "balanced game play" status that you want this armor to be available to all classes please develop 2 different skins for the armor that have the same stats. 1 that is Mandalorian that only Master Bounty Hunters or Master Commando's can use, and 1 that is "insert name here" armor with identical stats but a different look (totally unlike Mandalorian in appearance). At least that waythe Hybrid combat classeswho have a much higher significant point investment can besomewhat distinctive from the Elite combat classes.


Personally I think the idea ofreceiving a bonus to wear the armor if you are a Master Hybrid combat class (bountyhunter-commando only) and a penalty(large) to wear it if you are not is the best idea I've seen so far (if you feel it needs to be available to all classes).


Bottom line though,I think you should give each class its own armor. I don't give a hoot what people saythe Mandalorians were. I don't care if they were mercenaries or the galactic garbage men. When I see that armor I think Bounty Hunter and I would wager a large number of subscribers would agree with me. Keep the game feeling as close to the movies as possible. Let the bounty hunters have it.
PhoenixOrion
Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:25 am
#407

Mandalorian Armor should be quest-based and only Master BH's who complete the quest should be able to have it made for them. Either make it dropa schematicand ONE ONLY is craftable (this way, no armosmiths can make factory runs of them hopefully) - OR make it so that once the person completes the quest, they get the armor. Also make it so ONLY the person who completes the quest can wear it once they hit Master BH.


Make this quest REALLY hard. Not mob-wise, but completion-wise as well.


If the person fails the Quest, they have to start all over.


Mandalorians are extinct in this time period.


I'll have to send an email to LucasArts PR if I see more than a couple people running around servers with this armor on.


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taddel
Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:01 am
#408


I think we should get mandalorian armor so that every person you see isnt weain a full suit of composite.The only reason everyone dpes wear composite is because its the best for one thing . But because its easy to get, if there was a very hard line of quests to get mandolorian armor schem and then have to take the schem to a npc armorsmith and then you being the only person thst can wear it.




Yelter Radma




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taddel
Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:05 am
#409



I think we should get mandalorian armor so that every person you see isnt weain a full suit of composite.The only reason everyone dpes wear composite is because its the best for one thing . But because its easy to get, if there was a very hard line of quests to get mandolorian armor schem and then have to take the schem to a npc armorsmith and then you being the only person thst can wear it.




Yelter Radma




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ethuilathelas
Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:53 am
#410


Just adding my voice to the masses....


I, too, think it would feel totally wrong if people other than BH's were wearing Mandalorian armor!

I also think that restricting the wearers to BHs would prevent the already-rich armorsmiths from benefitting too much from the introduction of this armor.



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Boba-Fett30
Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:01 pm
#411

Mandalorian armor should include the jet pack but it would just be a normal back pack...or you could make this one a rare loot that you find in the dungeon



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Ke_la
Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:10 pm
#412

1)The Crafter in question, Armorsmiths in this case, will charge an INCREDIBLY high fee for even one peice because they know of its rarity. This, of course, will make that crafter quite rich and still leave people who really want the suit, with a VERY bad taste in their mouths. The sad reality is money...people want as much of it as they can get so they will rape players in most ways possible. Btw...i'm generalizing.







You REALLY want to know why armor costs so much ASK the guy charging 50 credits per UNIT of Hide. As far as I know (I am not an ArmorSmith) all armor takes hide, and judging by the Bone armor I can make very componant rich meaning you need 2 or more armor segments(containing hide) to make one glove(also containing hide). You do the math and it starts to become clear that its the Reasouces Supliers that are the biggest winners. And you could be one to You do have 10 lots and Harvestors only take 1 each





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Ke_la
Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:16 pm
#413

Best way to get rare stuff and keep it rare is to create a mandatory rare element that has extremely low percentage of spawn. Say a metal that has low percent chance of spawning, lasts for short period of time, has a max of 10 percent rate of extraction or so and limit it to Dothimir or Yavin4. This would do a couple good things.. It would keep the amount of material low enough that people would have a hard time making a large run of armor off of it. It would give people more reason to travel to remote planets.. both of which aren't too easy to place large number of harvesters on. Or just keep it from being harvested by machines and make it only hand picked.. which would mean that you would have to be a surveyor in order to extract it as lower amount of survey skill would be inadequate for such a low percentage of extraction.
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Then it will NEVER be on the server anyone remember or even seen RIS you know why they used this plan. Mainly made the Reasouces hard to get. "Hand Picking" on Dath or Yavin is suiside if you had good combate skills wich most Crafters don't have the skill points for. You try kneeling in one spot on a dath for HOURS (wich is what it will take) and not die ALOT.




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Ke'la is a Master Rifleman/retireing Ranger and Waylon is an ID/DE
Me'na is the mayor of the City of Obalisic
"Have fun storming the castle". -- Miracle Max
"I knew it I am surrounded by %##@&!$# " -- Dark Helmet
"I am not Dead yet!" -- Guy from Holy Grail

Ke_la
Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:27 pm
#414


A Mandalorian TEF won't work, because Mandalorian would be hard to make a faction without a clear, defined enemy. It's complicated enough with two factions already, the last thing we need is a neutral faction that teams up to attack both factions. That's just chaos.


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That is however Cannon. Boba Fett would work for the Rebels if they could afford him and they did not have an overtion to working with a BH




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Ke'la is a Master Rifleman/retireing Ranger and Waylon is an ID/DE
Me'na is the mayor of the City of Obalisic
"Have fun storming the castle". -- Miracle Max
"I knew it I am surrounded by %##@&!$# " -- Dark Helmet
"I am not Dead yet!" -- Guy from Holy Grail

Ke_la
Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:36 pm
#415

MASTER BOUTNY HUNTER: has skill mods to enhance the bounty hunter lack of defence and abillites. Forget busting your hump to re write the WHOLE thing to improve us.... add ranged def / melee def.. all the status changes...... IT would be possible to make it a weapon also and add things like human traps a laso w/ effect warcry... a dart system.... /shrug just an idea...




This is someting I don't understand way does a BH need to know how to use something (traps) he would never use in his chosin profftion. He wouldn't. He would learn how to use them and then Adapt them to his needs, traping people. the other 3 branchs make some sence. Camping, BHs are loners and don't spend alot of time in cities. Hunting Goes with spending time outside cities you need to hunt to eat. And Terrain Negoiation, if you can't move faster then your prey your prey gets away. That leaves Traping... copletly useless cause you can't trap NPCs.(and For a Scout fo good Reason)




Ke'la Korian, Waylon Korien, Me'na Korien
Ke'la is a Master Rifleman/retireing Ranger and Waylon is an ID/DE
Me'na is the mayor of the City of Obalisic
"Have fun storming the castle". -- Miracle Max
"I knew it I am surrounded by %##@&!$# " -- Dark Helmet
"I am not Dead yet!" -- Guy from Holy Grail

Tarak_Rexus
Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:36 pm
#416

Erm Mandalorian Armor wasnt made for BHs... it was made for mandalorian warriors. If Boba was a Commando you would have all said "for Commandos only!"



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