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Thread: Friday Feature Errata... Part 2...

Ehgreiz
Mon Feb 09, 2004 1:46 pm
#391

this almost tops the list for me on reasons why i should quit swg.....


misinformation about removing decay (which NEVER should have been put in in the first place) and then not actually cdarrying forward with the promise you made to the entire community - i was looking forward to the no decay for pvp deaths more than any other aspect of this release... i am very quickly losing any reason to play this game, pick it up devs or im out - flame me all you want ppl, im merely giving my opinion, if people still enjoy the game as i used to then im happy for you, i wish i still did



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JustG
Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:00 pm
#392


I have kept up with this thread, and read every post. I can assure you that threats about cancellation, 36 point text, and massive rants do not sway our opinions. Well reasoned posts do.


This issue is still under consideration. TH will post more soon.


thx,


- g


*edit* - wish the boards had a spell-checker...

Message Edited by JustG on 02-09-2004 02:01 PM

Lotussutol
Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:08 pm
#393

and calling your users trolls does change our opinion
Scott_Ray
Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:13 pm
#394

The 1% decay while insured needs to go, thats why we pay insurance. It doesnt help armorsmiths becasue they have a 20 million credits or more usually and takes too long to effectively help tailors at all. Also in PvP a respawn timer of somekind is a neccessity to prevent zerg rushes out of cloning centers. This is a really bad moveby the Devscause the no decay was gonna cause alot more people to start PvP'ing, myself included and would help out the game tremendously.



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OnlyOneShot
Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:13 pm
#395

Grow up. The kid was acting like a troll and not adding anything positive to the conversation. I'm glad that JustG showed that he has some balls, unlike most of you posters who just whine all the time and one star other peoples posts.
DirkTheDaring
Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:18 pm
#396






Lotussutol wrote:
and calling your users trolls does change our opinion



You are what you do... In fact he didn't exactly call him a troll. He simply stated the obvious fact that he sure likes to troll.

Meenah
Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:24 pm
#397

Well, since I'm the one you all are talking about I'd like to ask one question:


How are any of your behaviors any better/worse than anything I was percieved as doing in that thread and even in this one?


At least I was responding and refuting JustG's posts in the thread--keeping it within the general topic of how well the devs are doing and/or repsonding to JustG's DIRECT responses to me, personally.


That certainly is less trollish than all the 100% off-topic, non direct responsive posts calling me a troll and asking I be banned.



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Zarathustra
Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:25 pm
#398

JustG,


The issues was highly debated during beta, but what about a time decay on clothing. I think this is the answer, because there needs to be two different factors at work here:


1) Promote and encourage PvP (there is a war going on after all)


2) Keep a constant demand for Tailors (and BE tissues)


Timed based decay works for both of these. It's not the worst thing in the world if someone leaves the game for a month, and then come back in and they log in naked...it's not the worst thing in the world. But there needs to be some kind of comprimise in what all of the players want. On a few other points:


- Armor should NOT take the timed decay penalty. I've gone through a chest plate completely in less than 4 days with zero deathblows.


-Fix repair with respect toclothing (as well as the rest of the game...how does repair work, please, please tell us).


If I'm not mistaken, the mechanics for this were into effect during Beta 2 or 3. Otherwise, why can't clothing take damage when worn like armor? Give it higher condtion, 0 encumbrance and 0% base effectiveness, a set of ribbed pants takes damage the same is if you were wearing ubese pants. Damage is applied whenever you gain wounds. If you sample radioactive, you get wounds and your clothing is torn a bit. If you get it fighting, etc.... Dancers and Musicians already consume a high amount of clothing constantly, it's part of that profession, it's the appeal to the other classes in the game that you have to make a constant market for.





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Droid-S128
Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:26 pm
#399

Let the thread die! What happens, happens. There is nothing you guys can do about it. So leave before you screw yourselves.

Aakhperkare
Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:13 pm
#400






JustG wrote:


I have kept up with this thread, and read every post. I can assure you that threats about cancellation, 36 point text, and massive rants do not sway our opinions. Well reasoned posts do.


This issue is still under consideration. TH will post more soon.


thx,


- g


*edit* - wish the boards had a spell-checker...

Message Edited by JustG on 02-09-2004 02:01 PM



They may not, but after that original Friday Feature blunder, can you honeslty blame people for being just slightly pissed off about it? Kinda hard to give well reasoned posts after something like that. You may not have liked how people were behaving after the fact, just as the players didn't like being told one thing for a month then told something completely different...

Krayvex
Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:17 pm
#401








OnlyOneShot wrote:

Grow up. The kid was acting like a troll and not adding anything positive to the conversation. I'm glad that JustG showed that he has some balls, unlike most of you posters who just whine all the time and one star other peoples posts.







Wow, dev posts sure to bring out troll and fanboy (yes you) posts. Try following the whole story before you say anything else stupid. Meenah didn't do much more than ask the same question that many of us asked. Meenah just asked it a little better, more pointed andlessinsulting, than the rest of us.


***Why is there double decay for pvp?**


This questionWAS the thread. If JustG had, as you said above, " showed that he has some balls" he could have killed this thread before it turned nasty and he ended up calling is customers names. We're not that unreasonable. If you put agood argument infront of most of us we'll probably be ok with it. There's been no communication about this (other than the obviously bad info the devs gave poor TH) so it seems a little sadistic to do to players. If G wants ideas from us, it'd help to know why certain things are in the game.


Looks like we'll have to wait and see what kind of mess they come up with next. Sounds like G is going to hide behind TH again and let him break the news to us. Atleast the flames are entertaining.





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Bamboozle
Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:23 pm
#402

The "no decay when overt"-idea is the best idea I've heard on these forums since I started playing this game. That would reduce the amount of group TEFers as well. People who want group TEF to stay in the game can still use it, but there is a risk involved. I love it.



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Ackis
Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:23 pm
#403







Lotussutol wrote:
and calling your users trolls does change our opinion







I have to agree with you there.


Not saying I don't sympathize with JustG, just that it was extremely unprofessional.




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