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Thread: Jedi Revamp Phase I

Oweni
Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:03 pm
#378

I think you missunderstand. Once you've unlocked your force sensitive slot, you are able to create another character on the server that you unlocked the force sensitive slot on. Which means you get TWO characters on ONE server, ONE of them being force sensitive, the OTHER being the character that you unlocked your force sensitive slot with. You then have your greenhorn untrained force sensitive padawan running around trying to become a jedi, or, you can make your force sensitive character a NON Jedi, and just have a spooky and mysterious force sensitive Master Chef running around.


This sound about right? Why yes, yes it does.


Also, someone please pay attention to my post thats like three above this one.


Fellstaff
Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:05 pm
#379






Oweni wrote:

I think you missunderstand. Once you've unlocked your force sensitive slot, you are able to create another character on the server that you unlocked the force sensitive slot on. Which means you get TWO characters on ONE server, ONE of them being force sensitive, the OTHER being the character that you unlocked your force sensitive slot with. You then have your greenhorn untrained force sensitive padawan running around trying to become a jedi, or, you can make your force sensitive character a NON Jedi, and just have a spooky and mysterious force sensitive Master Chef running around.


This sound about right? Why yes, yes it does.


Also, someone please pay attention to my post thats like three above this one.








You've just gone over the CURRENT system.

JEDI REVAMP: Your current character becomes AWARE he is force sensitive through quests. Another character is opened on that server that allows you to develop a NORMAL (NON FORCE SENSITIVE) character, while your ORIGINAL character can advance as a Jedi (or not).


Anyone that already has a Jedi after the revamp has the positions reversed. Their original character is still non sensitive,



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Isa Lodeah - pre-pub 9 FSCS unlock (31/32), post-CU Padawan
Onib - pre-pub 9 Jedi Initiate 4134, post-CU full template Padawan
Oweni
Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:09 pm
#380

No no no FellStaff, I'm not talking about leveling up your Jedi like you would your normal character.


Take this as a template: Once you've mastered Jedi Knight, you're a neutral Jedi. Now, to become more powerful or more dynamic, you can choose to either become Dark or Light. To do the Dark Side, you go find a Dark Jedi trainer or do missions for Vader or something. He gives you missions that are sinister and evil and you do them, and you start to become a DARK Jedi. Once you've done enough missions for Vader and have been corrupted and filled with enough hate, you are then a Dark Jedi initiate, and drop your Jedi Master profession and start working on Dark Jedi.


Its just like a hybrid profession. You have Novice Medic (Jedi Initiate) then you are a Master Medic (Jedi Knight). From there, you can go either Doctor (Dark Jedi) or Combat Medic (Light Jedi). To do those, you go find Doctor or Combat Medic trainers and do missions for them.


See what I mean? It will add SO much MORE content and utterly dynamic player development to the game that those who strive for absolute power will get absolute stiffys doing so.


Fellstaff
Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:24 pm
#381






Oweni wrote:

No no no FellStaff, I'm not talking about leveling up your Jedi like you would your normal character.


Take this as a template: Once you've mastered Jedi Knight, you're a neutral Jedi. Now, to become more powerful or more dynamic, you can choose to either become Dark or Light. To do the Dark Side, you go find a Dark Jedi trainer or do missions for Vader or something. He gives you missions that are sinister and evil and you do them, and you start to become a DARK Jedi. Once you've done enough missions for Vader and have been corrupted and filled with enough hate, you are then a Dark Jedi initiate, and drop your Jedi Master profession and start working on Dark Jedi.


Its just like a hybrid profession. You have Novice Medic (Jedi Initiate) then you are a Master Medic (Jedi Knight). From there, you can go either Doctor (Dark Jedi) or Combat Medic (Light Jedi). To do those, you go find Doctor or Combat Medic trainers and do missions for them.


See what I mean? It will add SO much MORE content and utterly dynamic player development to the game that those who strive for absolute power will get absolute stiffys doing so.







hahah, you think they'll add 'dynamic' content to what will be a smaller profession base than pikeman?


Jedi are PVP by definition within SWG. From the start, you pull a saber, or use force powers, you're open for PvP. Making PvP a requirement for the final level is not unreasonable, and making it a king of the hill situation is actually a pretty good idea to keep the highest level Jedi 'rare' as they kill each other off





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Isa Lodeah - pre-pub 9 FSCS unlock (31/32), post-CU Padawan
Onib - pre-pub 9 Jedi Initiate 4134, post-CU full template Padawan
Vlag
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:12 am
#382


The diffrent paths should follow along the lines of existing Jedi stories, Gaurdians, Couslors and Sentinals. Guardians could be the only ones how master all three forms of lightsabre, becomeing insane at just lightsabre with force heal or minip mixed in. Counslors mostly force healing and minipulation, maybe some new buffs and speacil moves. Sentinals would be a mix of the two. Current Jedi would have exp refunded and could pick it over again since app is not in yet anyway.


This force sensitive "skill" could be raised though doing the quests gaining exp for each one and you could pick the branches you wanna do first, slowly hieghting your sences/awarness. Once you hit the top of the tree it would be initiate, and you would then have to sac all your skill points to it.
nefarious
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:33 am
#383

I'm still unclear on the whole "second character to develop as you wish". does that mean everyone gets a second character, or only those who finish the quest.



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Thunderheart
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:39 am
#384






Djferio wrote:

Thunderheart what will happen to the current players who are jedi guardian or 4-4-4-4 in jedi guardian, they spend a ton of time to get there where they are now.


Are there plans to set them back to jedi apprentice? or do they keep to be jedi guardian 4-4-4-4?




Actually, its "neither". No, they will not be set back but theywont keep "Gaurdian 4-4-4-4" though. The system is being completely reworked. What they will get is all their skill points. Lets say you are Guardian 4-4-4-4. In the new system, you get all your skill points back, and then you alot them as you see fit in the new skill box arrangments.




Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Community Relations Manager
Aemigisa
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:42 am
#385






Thunderheart wrote:






Djferio wrote:

Thunderheart what will happen to the current players who are jedi guardian or 4-4-4-4 in jedi guardian, they spend a ton of time to get there where they are now.


Are there plans to set them back to jedi apprentice? or do they keep to be jedi guardian 4-4-4-4?




Actually, its "neither". No, they will not be set back but theywont keep "Gaurdian 4-4-4-4" though. The system is being completely reworked. What they will get is all their skill points. Lets say you are Guardian 4-4-4-4. In the new system, you get all your skill points back, and then you alot them as you see fit in the new skill box arrangments.








As in, you STILL have the fifty billion Jedi exp you used to get to 4444 Guardian?





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Druc_Beinad
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:44 am
#386






Thunderheart wrote:






Djferio wrote:

Thunderheart what will happen to the current players who are jedi guardian or 4-4-4-4 in jedi guardian, they spend a ton of time to get there where they are now.


Are there plans to set them back to jedi apprentice? or do they keep to be jedi guardian 4-4-4-4?




Actually, its "neither". No, they will not be set back but theywont keep "Gaurdian 4-4-4-4" though. The system is being completely reworked. What they will get is all their skill points. Lets say you are Guardian 4-4-4-4. In the new system, you get all your skill points back, and then you alot them as you see fit in the new skill box arrangments.








While that is fine, will you please tell us Does everyone get a second slot?


If not, what is the point of opening a second slot when you hit Jedi Knight?




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Reiondo
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:45 am
#387

This is sounding like the KOTOR Jedi system.




Pilai
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:51 am
#388






Druc_Beinad wrote:





Thunderheart wrote:






Djferio wrote:

Thunderheart what will happen to the current players who are jedi guardian or 4-4-4-4 in jedi guardian, they spend a ton of time to get there where they are now.


Are there plans to set them back to jedi apprentice? or do they keep to be jedi guardian 4-4-4-4?




Actually, its "neither". No, they will not be set back but theywont keep "Gaurdian 4-4-4-4" though. The system is being completely reworked. What they will get is all their skill points. Lets say you are Guardian 4-4-4-4. In the new system, you get all your skill points back, and then you alot them as you see fit in the new skill box arrangments.








While that is fine, will you please tell us Does everyone get a second slot?


If not, what is the point of opening a second slot when you hit Jedi Knight?





I think the second slot works like this. Once you open up your "jedi slot", either character can become a jedi dabbler, or either can become full masters. The point in getting a second slot is because they don't want to have the people who hologrinded their way to jedi to be "rewarded" quite that much. If only we got 2 character slots, the new jedi would feel quite screwed over, and rightly so.

Thunderheart
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:54 am
#389






Aemigisa wrote:

As in, you STILL have the fifty billion Jedi exp you used to get to 4444 Guardian?




Yes, if you had 16 boxes in the old system, you get 16 boxes in the new system. However many complete boxes you have, you will keep.








Druc_Beinad wrote:



While that is fine, will you please tell us Does everyone get a second slot?




Yes, anyone who puts in the effort gets the second slot.





Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Community Relations Manager
vvornth
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:56 am
#390

Will guardians 4444 be able to spend all their skill points and at the end of the day be higher than someone who did up to apprentice4444 or will both of them be basically at the same place? Do lesser jedi get less skill points? More box options?

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