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Thread: Force Ranking System Feedback...

Netninjax
Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:12 am
#27






MasterNerfSlayer wrote:

As 5th ranked light Jedi, I was losing 500 FRS xp on the timer. I still had almost 80k of this xp. At 500xp per day... you can see how long it would be before I lost my ranking due to not playing. I don't know if I'm missing something here or not.




Either way you slice it, you can hold the seat forever or you cant keep it due to not being a powergamer. It doesnt sound like a good system to me.



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xxAce05xx
Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:22 am
#28



Right now I am at the Jedi Council Member rank.At this level it is impossible to make any sort of headway. I am losing 1000 xp every 2 hours appx. I did some PvPing in Coronet last night before I went to bed, I spent about an hour there and killed about 7-10 different BH's and 2 Jedi and I only made like 100xp. I also died once which cost me 10,000 xp


I started out with 375k Force Rank Experience a little over 12 hours ago. I've died twice and killed probably 15-20 individual BH's and 2 Jediin that span but I am currently at 348k FRE. I know you guys wanted the turnaround to be high for those levels but as it is right now there is no possible way to maintain that rank or even get there (since I was actually placed at that level).


I'm just not sure what the difference is between the Force Ranking System and the Force Rank Experience. In the FRS I am at 1263 and, as I said above, I am at 348k FRE. Maybe the reason I am not gaining a lot of xp on the kills is because my FRS is so low? It's something to take a look at.

Message Edited by xxAce05xx on 06-12-2004 10:03 AM

Message Edited by xxAce05xx on 06-12-2004 10:24 AM



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xxAce05xx
Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:41 am
#29

Oh, I forgot about voting. So far we haven't dont any of that in the Light Enclave. People have petitioned for the higher ranks but because there are so many open spots they just get put in it. Maybe later next week some conflicts will arise and we can vote.



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Djferio
Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:49 am
#30

What about some ingame step by step to understand the ranking system?


Maybe create another t2 enclaves that is for tutorial use only and that grands nothing, no titles etc.. just a guide for the enclave?



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sketch123
Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:53 am
#31


I find it quite ridiculous that there is no way to advance beyond knight permanently. If knight stays the way it is right now, jedi will be obliterated. Yes I do think the FRS is a good idea, but should only be used for additional modifers and/or robes.


Its very unreasonable, but probably under the FRS that someone could go from the equivalent of a Jedi master to a knight in one day. Jedi masters just do not forget how to be jedi masters. Sure, the more they fight, the better they become (FRS modifiers). But you just don't go from master to knight by losing duels.


This is very unreasonable.


It would have made more sense to put it


2 mastered trees (or 8 level 4's) for knight


3 mastered trees (or 12 level 4's) for guardian


4 mastered trees for master


The FRS system should be independent of advanced to the no longer existant guardian and master.


It could be incorporated so that to even gain access to advancing to guardian and master, you need to enter the FRS, but to say that you can go from master back to knight is ridiculous.


And yes, they could make it so that even jedi masters still really would want to enter FRS to gain even more powerful. But to get rid of anything past knight permanently is unfair, especially to those already past knight now.




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phijawrio
Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:27 am
#32






JavelinCatcher wrote:



Ok that said, I'm sure you heard about by now from a couple QA's that were on Yavin 4 last night about the Light vs Dark Enclave battle. To set this in proper perspective, I'll guide you through the course of events.






I know he saw us get throttled, at least part of it, in person. It's hard to test the system at the moment because 1) we lack any sort of enhancement for our ranks within the enclave and 2) the inequities in the current Jedi system. On the first, it's hard to take on the numbers of people that need to be taken on in order to just sustain a rank when there's no functional difference between an 8th Level Oppressor and a Padawan ready to start the Knight Trials. I'm fighting with the same skills and powers as anyone else, but risking a lot more for a lot less to do it. On the second, Defense in its current state is overpowered, and Powers and Healing are underpowered. I'm Master Powers/Master Healer/0404 Lightsaber, and I simply can't do any damage at all to a buffed person, which at the moment is anyone on TC2. I dueled someone with 0/0/4/4 Defender (with no shields or armor up) for 10 minutes last night, constantly throwing Choke, Weaken2, lightningsingle2, throw2, mindblast2, and everything else I had at her, and couldn't even scratch her. I have the same amount of skillpoints invested in Powers as a Lightsaber Master has invested in their craft, but have 0 offensive capabilities, and 0 defensive capabilities. At the moment, the only viable template that works in the Enclave is Master LS/Master Defender, which is a shame because it reduces everything back to the cookie cutter jedi that they were before.



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Jowet
Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:29 am
#33

how are you guys getting so high in the ranking system already. you completed all the trials already? i can't get credit for my DW Overlord. LOL




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Djferio
Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:39 am
#34






Jowet wrote:

how are you guys getting so high in the ranking system already. you completed all the trials already? i can't get credit for my DW Overlord. LOL






Some Devs/QA gave ranks to us to test the ranking ssytem.



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Jowet
Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:42 am
#35

damn i missed it. i hate working at night. anyway give us some details. do you get new force powers as you progress or is it just modifiers? it would be sad to be jedi council leader and not be able to force run or total heal or meditate. you should get more skills as you move up the ladder and every skill once you're at the top. just makes sense.




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The Darkside of the Force is a pathway some consider to be Unatural,
I on the otherhand find it to be Completely Natural.
Phazorn
Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:42 am
#36

i believe making heal2 specials 500-700 would be better. right now they are lik 200-500 and have an awful delay that makes them worthless in pvp



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Vigeant
Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:52 am
#37

yes pliz load some trials in towns so we can check/ehlp.



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Atiw
Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:58 am
#38



Jowet wrote:
damn i missed it. i hate working at night. anyway give us some details. do you get new force powers as you progress or is it just modifiers? it would be sad to be jedi council leader and not be able to force run or total heal or meditate. you should get more skills as you move up the ladder and every skill once you're at the top. just makes sense.





Currently you are not getting anything.

I am a 9th rank Dark Jedi Opressor (next rank up is the council, then the leader), and am still weaker than most of the Jedi running around.

We presume that the rank modifiers are not working at the moment.



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Djferio
Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:05 pm
#39

Force ranking modifiers, skills etc.. Are currently not working.



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