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Thread: Publish 10.4 Feedback

Trimatthias
Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:53 pm
#27

so... yet another jedi only fix... way to alienate the rest of the players... although I gues you guys are planning on moving along to EQ2 or WoW like the rest of us huh?


sheesh




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xxx_buckshot
Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:30 pm
#28

eveyone posting so far has failed to mention a big concern of jedi for a long time now...


Jedi players will gain visibility if the following actions are performed while players or NPCs are near:


  • Equipping a lightsaber.

the best defense a jedi has against a bh is their lightsaber. most if not all jedi (including myself) leave their saber equiped in case of a sneak attack from a bh or bh gank squad.


so our options have become, put your lightsaber away so that a bh can have not only first strike but 5 seconds of 'free' hits as you equip your saber... or, leave your saber out for safety and allow even more bh to potentially get missions on you as your visibility rises. damned if you do, damned if you don't.


best way to resolve this fun little item is to remove the weapon switch delay for jedi only. simulating the way jedi can pull their saber very quickly even if was hidden from view (yoda, and think qui-gon did this in the films)




screw flanders
Nadev
Sat Oct 02, 2004 5:21 pm
#29

Is it me or shouldn't the Whats On Deck posts come out before the hot fix notes? I mean whats is the purpose of telling us whats on deck AFTER or just before the Patch Notes are posted?



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talonbloodwing
Sat Oct 02, 2004 7:09 pm
#30

nice changes i like


and to the whiners

/flame on



JEDI = HARD MODE for SWG

And no one made you play it ...............so if you dont whant to grind all that exp to get a good jedi then dont caus all you whining is just making your gaming experance crap..


A jedi master or Knight shuld not be a over night thing GOOD JOB DEVS /thumbs UP


and the placing them back to -1mill nice touch fare so the BH's dont whine


have i said GOOD JOB.. caus GOOD JOB





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telexx
Sat Oct 02, 2004 7:14 pm
#31

Unless you fix the way overdue problem with 30:1 XP ratios, I will not have interest in renewing my cancellation due on November 1st. I won't even mention the piss poor time gate that prevents me from advancing every 3 weeks.



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kingen23
Sat Oct 02, 2004 7:21 pm
#32


Given recent changes to Jedi, as a one time event:


  • Jedi Visibility has been reset to zero.
  • Jedi players with experience below (-1 Million) has been raised to (-1 Million)


Hmm still on the terms, this patch didn´t work either. Can you please stop trying to fix us, you are only making it worse.


I was looking forward to have some time without having bounty hunters after me the whole time, but after a quick check on the terms i was still there.






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CainTheUnable
Sat Oct 02, 2004 8:10 pm
#33






kingen23 wrote:


Given recent changes to Jedi, as a one time event:


  • Jedi Visibility has been reset to zero.
  • Jedi players with experience below (-1 Million) has been raised to (-1 Million)


Hmm still on the terms, this patch didn´t work either. Can you please stop trying to fix us, you are only making it worse.


I was looking forward to have some time without having bounty hunters after me the whole time, but after a quick check on the terms i was still there.







He's right, I was just informed that I am on the terminals too, this is impossible seeings how all I've done today is kill voritors, I wear no robes or anything and I've only been spotted once today, and that was just a random passerby who drove by on a speeder then kept going. This visiblity bs has gotten out of hand. I never had a problem staying off the terminals before, I hunt ALONE, away from EVERYONE. Fix visibility for real, please.



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chaos213
Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:17 pm
#34

To the guy who asked about credit for holocrons mastered. I did 2 got nothing, nada, zilch. No extra credit no open slots nothing.


Now as to this silliness about xp reseting and the like the whole jedi system is from the Simpsons do Star Wars. Lets see..


BH can attack jedi but jedi can't attack bh unless attacked first? Yup that gels with the books and movies. (NOT LOL)


When jedi were first discussed the devstalked about how tough they would be but that a large group could eventually take one down. Hmm a master tk can wack any jedi below knight in under 3 minutes solo. A BH with melee training,doesn't have to be a master, can do a jedi in even quicker.


So nice cookie for the poor zots who spent endless time getting to jedi.


Oh and BTW Tiggs the phase 2 crafting quest is still broken for the majority of us because of the poorly thought through design cap of only 45 players being able to do it per phase. So why move on to 10.4 you haven't fixed 10.3.


I honestly think they have no idea of how to develope content beyond the carrot of jedi on a stick. Now would be a good time to view the movies and/or read the books devs.
Bowoci
Sat Oct 02, 2004 10:48 pm
#35



Got the xp tonite for my last box of the 6th tree.... will wait until I train it.


Can we get an answer on whether the griefing/ganking will continue if the BH is NOT the one to do the DB???


I also agree that the CAP on xp loss should be ZERO.... -1,000,000 is just plain ridiculous.


And.... a definitive answer on whether once you get Padawan if you can drop the skills and return your MAIN to normal?? Many have posted recently that they were NOT able to drop skills!


And if you can answer that... do we still keep the 2nd Char slot if we drop Padawan???


But of course there will be no answers... as you NEVER answer anything in a "Feedback" thread!



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Skuzz
Sat Oct 02, 2004 11:01 pm
#36

Sometimes i feel bad for the devs. They cant win for losing. Helping the jedi's gets them flamed, nerfing the jedi's gets them flamed. it's a no win situation really. Personally I just wish they could move onto other aspects of the game and forget about jedi and bounty hunters alike. Waaaay to much attention has been put forth towards these 2 very minor aspects of the SWG universe. Mostly i wish the devs would /ignore ALL the whinners of SWG and do what they think is right. Have a vision and go with it. The only fatal error i think the devs have made to date is caving to whinners, much like dealing with a toddler, once the "child" learns that if they cry loud enough and hard enough (ie; Im gonna quit unless ...")they get whatever they want. This is a very bad thing. If you like the game then play it. If you have an idea or some feedback then state it (like a calm rational adult). If you arent having fun THEN QUIT! It's quite simple actually.


With that said... Devs keep up the good work! I'm eagerly looking forward to the post-jedi phase of SWG.


oh yeah... and can we get some word on the status of the entertainer quests going live.





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DeQuosaek
Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:09 am
#37




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Message Edited by DeQuosaek on 10-03-2004 01:17 AM




Some of my pet peeve bugs:
•Armorsmith protection layers were not converted with the CU.
•Ship Details window does not close when you click "Travel" resulting in the message "You have lost the target. Closing interface."

DeQuosaek
Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:13 am
#38






xxx_buckshot wrote:

eveyone posting so far has failed to mention a big concern of jedi for a long time now...


Jedi players will gain visibility if the following actions are performed while players or NPCs are near:


  • Equipping a lightsaber.

the best defense a jedi has against a bh is their lightsaber. most if not all jedi (including myself) leave their saber equiped in case of a sneak attack from a bh or bh gank squad.


so our options have become, put your lightsaber away so that a bh can have not only first strike but 5 seconds of 'free' hits as you equip your saber... or, leave your saber out for safety and allow even more bh to potentially get missions on you as your visibility rises. damned if you do, damned if you don't.


best way to resolve this fun little item is to remove the weapon switch delay for jedi only. simulating the way jedi can pull their saber very quickly even if was hidden from view (yoda, and think qui-gon did this in the films)




The funny thing is that the life of a Jedi is intended to be very very very very difficult. Notice I didn't say only very difficult, but very very very very difficult.


That is how it is supposed to be.If you want the benefits of being a Jedi (like your Jedi defenses for having your saber equipped) then you'll have to deal with the consequences. No-one ever said being a Jedi would be easy.


Plus another little benefit Jedi get is the undivided attention of the developers.






Some of my pet peeve bugs:
•Armorsmith protection layers were not converted with the CU.
•Ship Details window does not close when you click "Travel" resulting in the message "You have lost the target. Closing interface."

stanbize
Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:46 am
#39

The life of jedi is intended to be very very very very very difficult LOL

This is justifiable if BH missions should be made similarly very very very very very very difficult!


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