Development Cycle Archive

Thread: Friday Feature Errata... Part 2...

PlayeroftheDay
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:37 pm
#27

Move on people, as much as you cry you won't get this changed. I'm all for Decay! You know why? Cause you all hate it, that's why!
Scratz
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:38 pm
#28


JustG wrote:

FWe understand that as players, you don't want the 1% decay. We think it is an important game mechanic in the right situations, but we want to remove it from factional battles.






I'd really like to understand the dichotomy here.

You say you know we don't want decay.

You leave it in anyway.

And then despite 89% of this very impassioned thread, you say you know better than us and that its an "important game mechanic."

I'm still processing the bizarre concept of trading FP for insurance. I don't have a clue where you're going on this -- sounds like another weak time sink to me, thrown in at the last minute to patch the hole in the **edit** that opened yesterday. You really, really need to elaborate on these off-the-cuff bombs like this.


ps TH does indeed rock. We who have been around a while know this, and thanks him. Now, how about you start listening to him, rather than immediately deciding how to cut our ideas to the floor on first hear?
Dadds
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:39 pm
#29

Gimme a freaking break. the players have spoken, we want decay removed from PVP, COMPLETELY. not a perk, not a timer, WE WANT FUN PVP WITHOUT HAVING OUR ITEMS DESTROYED IN THE PROCESS. You are losing ALOT of customers because of this, and its a STRONG business decision to take it out.
Fatcheen
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:39 pm
#30

The only valid complaints against decay that I can see are...


1) Factional armor

2) Regular armor


...since both of those decay by themselves as it is, and factional (namely ST) armor costs a bunch of FPs.


The rest of the stuff should decay, Is it really that big of deal that you have to buy another 100 credit surveying device? If you don't want something to decay leave it in your house or in the bank.

BatosaiB
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:39 pm
#31

Ok, just like everything Else that you guys changed lol


OMG I'm a VET yeeeeyy


EHEM, yeah where was I? Yeah remove Decay on insured items in PvP !!! I dont care If it means I have to insure it again, But dont decay If they are insured!!!




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RashReflexn
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:39 pm
#32

FACT- Armorsmiths and Weaponsmiths ARE THE RICHEST PEOPLE IN THE GAME--


just what kind of love from insured decay do you think they need?!---


oh and you want the blame from TH shifted to you JustG?-- well here goes--- kiss my A$$.


EnzymE
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:40 pm
#33






Walebro wrote:
Well, since we cant edit our posts in this forum..... I have another rant. JustG, are you or others not reading the forums? Because I know for a fact many people have been posting about looking forward to having no decay in PvP in their respective galaxy forums and other forums. If YOU knew that it had been pulled, yet we as players were still talking about it, that should've put a flag up, where you realized something was not communicated properly. This just shows how poor this new *forum* redesign really is if something like that cannot be picked up on.






Jester has done a good job at addressing the GCW problems in his forum, but it seems that his words have been falling on deaf ears. Rather than actually fixing the problems that are aparent in the game it seems they more worried about adding new features that just lead to more bugs. So many bugs have made the GCW pointless. Such bugs deserve a hotfix but we never see this anymore. After certain problems existing for months and others existing since the game has been live I feel that the people's concerns are not being addressed.
Shimond
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:41 pm
#34

Why does death have to have decay at all?

Why a 'bite' or 'cost' at all with dying? Isn't being killed and having to go back to doing whatever it is you were doing or giving up punishment enough for being killed?

I've never understood the mentality that death has to have some WORK related cost associated in it in a game I play for fun. For me the thing that keeps me living in the game is that I don't want to be killed, not because I want to avoid some added on tax to make it 'sting' more. I don't like dying in pvp. I don't like dying in pve. That's never going to change. And it has nothing to do with decay.

For most of this game's public online life we have had no extra tax associated with death. I realize that was never 'the plan' but I never understood why 'the plan' was so important anyway in this regard.

How about giving all the players something they all want and can benefit them all without doing any significant harm to the game?

Remove all death penalties aside from wounds obtained by cloning in a foreign facility.

-Shi
scphares
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:41 pm
#35

You lied to us.

Even if it was a mistake, you lied to us.

Who cares who the messenger is, because you're still part of the developer camp.

Just because you designate one person as a messenger doesn't mean we should kiss his butt every time he shows up and says, "Oh... BY THE WAY"

The reason you're dealing with such a mob like reaction is because everyone thinks this game can be so much more than it is, but you guys continually screw it up.
Meenah
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:42 pm
#36






WickedAsh wrote:

FYI Folks .. decay drives the buying and selling going on in the universe. If you never had a suit of armor go bad why would you replace it? This creates a demand, thus the great cycle of capitolism is born in which you the consumer need something and we the manufacturer provide the services.










If you played the game for 3-4 weeks after buying 3x Adv Composite for 500,000 creds to watch it fall apart without even being in the GCW you'd understand why no one wants ANOTHER level of decay on our armor..


Have you ever met a poor armorsmith that has a stocked vendor?




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Meplorium
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:43 pm
#37

I will say the communication has improved greatly since July. The improvementshave become especially noticable in the past couplemonths and they are appreciated.Slip ups do happen though. It is good to see one owning up to their mistakes and things are generally moving in the right direction. The changes on TC to feed back from the chefs are an example of this and hopefully things will be fleshed out completely to the chef community's satisfactionso the new profession is a viable one. I don't think we are there yet though.


As to decay, as a crafter I like it, of course. As one that uses skill tapes that are insanely expensive, it is enough to keep me away from all forms of death, especailly PvP. For PvP to be a strong part of this game, decay needs to be remove completely fromPvPas does combat medic's AoE. Those two items are game stoppers when it comes to PvP. If those two game stoppers were fixed then PvP would be enjoyable and not something to advoid completely.





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Skedoozy
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:43 pm
#38

Just unacceptable..


So at the last moment you decided that no decay was a good idea but only if we have to pay for it in another way.. Sad. Very sad.


I am tired of paying for insurance that hurts my items. That's not Insurace.. that's a decay machine.



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Racius
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:44 pm
#39

Only NEWBIES die in PVE, this is just ridiculous. Armorsmiths are a dying breed and now people are discarding armor altogether and wearing only clothing because in 100 fights your armor is GONE.



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