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Here is an idea:

If crafters want a say in this, but the people who fight out there want to get it as loot becuase AS get so much $, but the parts are so rare so AS will have a hard time finding the parts to accualy craft this item, y not just have a large amout of enemys in the quest thingy, so when u kill them and loot them, as loot they have 1 or a couple of parts which u need 2 make the armor. once u get all the parts, and finish thequest, youd get theschematic andu go 2 an AS and get them to craft it 4 u. That way, AS can have the schmatic, but have a hard time getting the parts, but still b able to craft, and the 1s who fight get the armor without having to pay millions 4 the armor

I just though I would though this out sorry if I am repeating the, but...

it is comin knowage at this point in time lightsabers cut though EVERYTHING* and therefor should be a specal damage type.

*We will find out later there is an ore that accually will short out a LightSaber Clotorius Ore I think its calld. It is very weak and Brittle and therefor makes bad armor Unless you what to stop lightsabers. What people did was get spun clotorus ore fibers and wave it into the armor. this would have the effect of making it resistiant to light sabers, but would weaken it to other attack types.

also eventhough I am not Certifide on heavy weoponry does not mean I can't use it. It means I am not as effective with it. How about this Mandalor Armor has Buffs and Resisits to Lightsabars but only IF you know how to use them hence the Cert. However you can STILL where it unCertifided but it would just be like Normal Armor then, say slightly below composit.

I'm with Bryan1138 on this, armour really should have certification but I would rather see a progressive HAM penalty reductionthanprevent people from wearing it. (much like we get increased accuracy,faster speed, etc for weapons as we train).

I've had a chance to wear a variety of different armour types in real life and much as I hate to draw analogies between old world armours and some ultra futuristic stuff who's technology I know nothing about I'm going to try.

If we take leather armour (bone) it's lightweight and flexible, having little or no penalty to wear. i.e no HAM cost.

Light platemail(chitin) takes some getting used to as it is quite heavy and restricts certain movements but once you've worn it a while you can do nearly everything you can do in regular clothes.Low initial HAM dropping to virtually none.

Field plate (ubese) is heavier and more restrictive to movement again. It's still possible to move fairly well (if you're strong enough) but again once you've worn it for a while you learn how it moves and adapt you're actions to it's restrictions. Moderate HAM dropping to low.

Heavy plate (composite), the first timeyou wearthisyou'll barely be abletomove. Even after after extensive training you'll still find it clumsy and restrictive but again the longeryou train with it the easier it was to wear. High HAM dropping to moderate.

Certainly in an advanced technological society you'd have access to servo-assist, better materials and techniques but I still feel that training has to be key factor in how easy a suit of armour is to use. Rather than prevent people from wearing whatever armour they choose (and causing a major outcry), I would like to see a reward (percentage or flat-rate HAM reduction) for combat professions. Stick it in the defensive branch of all combat professions tree.

Give Mandalorian Armour a ridiculously high HAM cost but make it so a master of an elite combat profession can actually fight in it.

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llaunay wrote:

FACT 5) Mandalorian Armor is not Lightsaber Proof

There is no physical element in the universe strong enough to stop/block/slow the blade of a lightsaber...

In verious fan films it is shown that lightsabers can be stuck in the ground like a sword... This is not possible

The blade of a saber has NO WIEGHT and NO KINETIC IMPACT... this is fact and is clearly stated by both

George Lucas and Nick Gillard... (if u wish to re-but this issue please e-mail me)

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The Real fact, sir, is that Mandalorian Armor is made of cortosis. A rare mineral that has the property to deactivate a lightsaber, creating a loopback effect.

(Check "a Guide to the StarWars Universe" and other SW encyclopedia)

It's not about "blocking" the blade rather than an electronic/magnetic problem.

Get your fact straight.

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Alternativ wrote:

The Real fact, sir, is that Mandalorian Armor is made of cortosis. A rare mineral that has the property to deactivate a lightsaber, creating a loopback effect.

(Check "a Guide to the StarWars Universe" and other SW encyclopedia)

It's not about "blocking" the blade rather than an electronic/magnetic problem.

Get your fact straight.

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Greetings Alternativ,

I am interested in seeing this book, but if this book does state this, it goes against the movies, novels, TV specials and Commentary by George Lucas...

Like in all Star Wars books, they are reviewed and licensed by LucasFilm but considering none of the books are written by LucasFilm or LucasBook they conflict on occasion. LucasBook commissions independent authors to Wright the books then they are sent back for review/editing. The same issue occurred when they Killed Chewbacca in one of the Star Wars Novels (he was hit by the friggen moon!!!) LucasFilm did not agree with the idea but ultimately they didn’t have the final say...

As for the "other SW encyclopedia" I believe you are refferring to "Behind The Magic?", if so then your incorrect, No where on either disk does it mention anything on Mandalorian Armor being Saber Proof OR"cortosis" OR mabe you mean the Databank at StarWars.com,even there I found no mention of either "cortosis" nor saber proof-armor...

I have heard of further errors in that book from several sources,one being TheForce.net....

I am not saying that this ultimately proves my point but there certainly is a hell of allot of circumstantial evidence backing me up...

Did I Get My "Fact" Straight???

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Syro Tantor

Master Commando - Teras Kasi Master

Naboo, Kettemoor

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Greeting,

ITs wonderful to finally see such a SW ICON finally in the works to hit the game and in a form of loot to boot whether in a schet form or actual loot that being said

supply and demand in this case high demand EVERYONE wants one because it is an icon this deffinitely needs to be an instanced dungeon with HARD HARD HARD mobs full group of 20 heavy combat templates to have a chance remember the deathwatch fough the mandaloreans a group of mercenaries that took the full effort of the JEDI to genocide and the schet/amour should drop as a full suit not just peicemealas for who can actually wear the mandalorean armour ANYONE ive been playing since release and to have it restrictedto only BH and Commando is wrong go ahead TELL me that the mandaloreans were only those to classes ahhh who made the armour? the local AS? dont think so itwas a mandalorean AS and i bet he could wear it as a trophyor a working set of armour any one should have the ability to wear it and not restricted to certain classes if it is in a schet form give a varynarow window ofexperimentation (to no window of experimentation all mandalore armour is identical) take restrant resist special restraint 85-95% energy 85-95% kinetic 85-95% stun 85-95% effectiveness acid 50-60%(just as example) this will keep the UBER and regular armour close and just the fact that you have the armour sets you apart

as far as AS and WS beiing uber rich it is the fault of the POWER GAMER that buys credits off of third party sites and doesnt earn his on loot that allows him to afford arms and armour in the 2mill+ price range you keep buying the equiptment so fast the crafter cant keep it stocked so the price goes up until the demand drops IF you STOP BUYING the price will come down combat templates can only blame combat templates for the high cost of equiptment YOU are not shopping around to alternate WS/AS that dont have the 'name' but still make good hi end equiptment so stop criing about being poor when you spend a mill on a stun helmet and 2mil on a krayted t21 if you can get equiptment for little to no cost why arent you? must you have the ferarri at the ferarri price? when you can go to an alternate and get it at a volkwagon price? i see every one can afford a swoop its your choice to be unable to afford good equiptment i say ban peeps for using ebay andother 3rd partiesfor credits or accounts like soe cant track the accounts changing hands unlike combat templates craftingis a MONEY SINK there are only 2 ways to make it as a crafter doing 12-1500cr missions or selling items harvesters cost money (and energy) to run factories cost money and energy to run if a crafter is a multi billionaire it is not the fault of the crafterand if you and all your guildies keep going to him and spending your hard earned credits and make him richer blame yourselves

i have made about 25-75+ scythes on bloodfin im well known for them in my circle and outside of it and i have made no more at it thenif i had been running low paying combat missions on naboo my choice im still happy to supply those that supply me and if my customers tip that is a gratuity and not something i demanded i fyou can get the mandalorian armour schet and dont know a good AS that will do it at cost if not for free (good advertizement) then you probably dont need the armour because you just got every thing you have off the net

sorry just had to remind the devs to stay out of the economy combat templates take no offense that being said im looking forward to my set of mandalorian armour I wonder how a jedi would look in it.............since they have no armour of their own maybe only jedi should have the ability to wear it i can hear the BH and comandos cursing now hehehe

It is great that you want to keep the crafters in mind when you produce these things, however, lets look at the simple facts:

1)The Crafter in question, Armorsmiths in this case, will charge an INCREDIBLY high fee for even one peice because they know of its rarity. This, of course, will make that crafter quite rich and still leave people who really want the suit, with a VERY bad taste in their mouths. The sad reality is money...people want as much of it as they can get so they will rape players in most ways possible. Btw...i'm generalizing.

2) The secrets of crafting Mandalorian Armor was pretty much lost with the Mandalors. To simply give users a schematic in this case, shouldn't happen. Especially from a cave of assassins and mercenaries.

The Armor, not the schematic, should be a loot. If you want to still have crafters involved, make the armor in a state of disrepair (as was suggested by several people) and givea quests to Armorsmiths for a "Mandalorian Repair Kit". This will give both the player and crafter a connection to the armor.

As for the armor itself, it should be used by anyone. Mandalorians were fighters in general ranging from Hand-to-Hand combat artists to full blown artillery personnel. If you really look at the design of the Fett armor, it was made with medium coverage and good mobility in mind. Hence the plates and not FULL coverage. If you REALLY wanted to get creative, start looking into Mandalorian Armor variants.The variant we see in the movies might simply be a "Soldier" variant. As i recall, Tales of the Jedi (comic by Dark Horse) introduced a somewhat full coverage suit of Mandalorian that was worn by superior's. (Looked much like Sunguard/Royal Guard Armor). It seemed almost a hybrid of Padded Armor and Mandalorian Plates...kinda cool actually.

If, for some reason, you DO decide to make it a schematic...then use truely RARE materials. I'm not talking like JUST rare drops. Use rare metals, polymers, and such. As a dabbler in Artisan for my entire time, i've seen some metals only appear once or twice since public release that haveincredible stats.THESE are the materials that it should be made out of. This would help limit the amount of suits in the world...but the down side is, crafters would be charging even more.

Anyway...just thoughts.