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Thread: On Mandalorian Armor

Thrive
Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:12 am
#352






Jounar wrote:

Making this armor as rare as RIS is one of the worst idea's mentioned here. You wouldnt be an Armor Smith by any chance who just wants to charge 15+ mil per peice?


RIS armor was a waste of Dev time due to how rare and costly it costs. All the time spent coding and designing it just so a few people can wear it is just not acceptable when the amout of issue's like bugs and broken class's plague SWG.









Let me guess... but you want it for BHs only right? lol


So instead of decreasing the spawn and drop rates of a few items and a few mobs (which is a simple number entry issue no doubt), you want them to create an entire system that allows them to restrict items bases solely on class... which most likely will require them to rework the entire profession and item equipment systems in order to get them to work like factions.



LOL! Talk about wasting thier time.....


Thrive
Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:16 am
#353

Oh Sorry Journar, I just read this....




"Im a Bounty Hunter and all I can say to other Bounty Hunter's and Commando's who are crying for a limit on who can wear this armor is get a life you fools.


Boba and Jango were both Bounty Hunters who had Mandalore armor. So? Just because they wore it dosent make it a Bounty Hunter only armor. Bossk was also a Bounty Hunter yet I dont see anyone crying for flight suits to be Bounty Hunter only."


So sorry if it looked like I attacked you, I just misunderstood your standpoint it seems, but still I think I made a decent point in my reply, though it seems I aimed it at someone who is on the same side.


/apologize

Cyprus301
Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:40 am
#354

was just wondering if there will be a wookiee wearable set made comperable to this? just wondering....



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Irenik
Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:55 pm
#355

I like how the BHs and Commandos want it "limited" HAHAHAHAHA


I can Master Commando OR Bounty Hunter in less than a week. Go ahead, make it specific to whatever prof you want. lol


I'll Master it in no time, get the armor, surrender, and have myself a suit of Mando too.


Pretty short-sighted of your two profs to think its that hard to master either one. Sure you might not get every person who's wearin Comp now switch to Mando. But I can guarantee that anyone who wants that armor WILL get the armor under those conditions. There isn't a prof in the game that takes more than a week to Master for anyone with half a brain when it comes to grindin'.
PostalPatriot
Fri Apr 02, 2004 8:20 pm
#356

i VOTE NO ON THE COMMANDO you all have TKA defense you don't need this armor like suck ass hunters do



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PostalPatriot
Fri Apr 02, 2004 8:22 pm
#357

Don't bother putting it in, Hell you want to know what they outa do Armor for each class thats master prof only



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Thrive
Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:09 pm
#358

I guess thats true, lol all Id have to do is Master Commando, get the armor, equip the armor, drop Commando, never unequip the armor and pick up something that would tick off the BHs real good.


Musician anyone? lol



CrackoDoom
Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:47 pm
#359

ok... my thoughts


the mando armor is a fantastic idea, and i'm pleased to see it finally implemented.


on another note, armorsmiths may be wealthy, but so are good weaponsmiths. im a pretty well-off armorsmith, as such, i spend insane amounts of money helping my guild to advance. donating weapons and grindables to the cause. that's not cheap. perhaps not all smithy's share their wealth. but from my experiences, armorsmiths are the most benevolent professionals. when do you see a master tka/doc sharing anything?


i disagree with making this armor easier to craft than RIS. i charge slightly less to make someone RIS than i do for advanced composite armor. they must bring their own lootable materials to the table, though. also from my experiences, the giant dune kimogila scale is much more rare than the woolamander bones. i have a bag full of feathers, 7 gurk king hides, 6 woolamander bones, and ZERO GDK scales.


this armor should definately be armorsmith-craftable. there are perhaps 2 or 3 armorsmiths on wanderhome that have completed the RIS quest. that number alone is an eye-opener when you consider the number of armorsmiths on any given server. mando armor should be every bit as difficult for us to create.


what i'd like to see about mandalorian armor is primarily a VERY HIGH max condition. most armors dont last very long when put to the test. RIS has higher condition than composite, but have you guys ever seen screenshots of the legendary armor pieces? lootable armor that's "legendary" is insane! 90,000 max condition on legendary chitin (and 90% base with skill mods including 10 ranged defense), legendary composite, 400,000 max condition (again, 90% base with skill mods). mandalorian armor should also have one vulnerability, lightsaber damage (when this is in place, as it is LS's do kinetic as you all know).


and that's my ten cents, my two cents is free.





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Kyros_Dragoon
Sat Apr 03, 2004 1:58 am
#360

I think adding mandalorian armor is a bad idea. This is a defining characteristic of Boba Fett and would take away that aspect if everyone in the game (most will) running around in it. Just what the game needs is a bunch of newb bounty hunters running around thinking they are Boba Fett.
JMShunter
Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:26 am
#361

A: let everyone wear it mandalorians wernt al bhs, Jango Fett wasnt even a bh until his men were wiped out and he could still wear his armor.


B: Crafters shouldnt really be involved because they do not need to be, they already have they hands stuck into the most money making profesions in the galaxy and it will be a pain to find one willing to craft for you, to pay them 3 mil and to just have ton go through all that.


C: Find a way to not make this so camped that coronet will become a ghost town.


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NoisyJawa
Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:10 pm
#362

It should definately only be wearable by Commandos and BHs only... I do not like this schematic system either, just more money for those filthy rich armorsmiths...


Now what would be cool... is if this armor gave special abilities.... like the wire that shoots out and wraps around people, or flame thrower on the wrist, or if the jet pack was operational.... *drools*


dakuagi
Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:47 pm
#363








Thrive wrote:

Lets see...


BHs dont want to see the armor all over the server, well thats cool, I dont either. But thats really not the case cause like you keep saying Armorsmiths might charge a TON for a single piece... well.. if they DO, then dont you think that that MIGHT limit how many people have it?


Oh wait, Im sorry.. that might mean some BHs wont be able to get it and that just wont do, will it?


And also, asking for this armor to go to BHs only because you feel your Profession is 'broken' is PURE BS. STOP IT.


If you feel your profession is broken, go to your Professions forum and discuss GETTING IT FIXED.


Securing this armor for your greeedy little selves WILL NOT FIX WHAT YOU FEEL IS WRONG WITH YOUR PROFESSION.


Even though BHs can kill damn near anything with those llcs and scatter pistols very quickly, and they make a ton of cash per mission, and they can attack Jedi on sight.... and blah blah blah, you just have to keep on crying and keep on begging till you get every damn thing you want in order to shut you up.


I think BHs already get something REALLY nice - the ability to track down and get paid a TON to kill Jedi players, jeezus,after everything they DO give you, you act like its nothing, then ask for more.


Try out a REAL broken profession, like Pikeman or Carbineer, then maybe youll get some sympathy. As it stands NO ONE wants to duel MBHs, or see them in PvP battles because of thier weapons and attacks. Except maybe CM/Rifleman combos, lol.



Youre ridiculous. If they make it as difficult as RIS and Armorsmiths make it very expensive, that will work perfectly.


Few will have it because of the rarity of the resources, and even fewer will have it because of tis price.


Sounds about right to me. Especially the part where BHs have as much chance as anyone else to end up possessing it.





and you where a BH for how long, i am afraid the writers ingnorance to a profession evidently not tried shines through.


I have no doubt there are other professions that are "broken" i have not tried them i am happy at MBH but this is our chosen profession there are perks anddis advantedges,but if wish to hunt jedi go ahead its more hassle than its worth, and as for themaking loads in BH missionsi have sold 1 loot item in which i made more than i have on the entire investigation tree of BH and once i was done with investigation i was certainly not doing anymore. The point is until the combat balance comes into force professions mean jack if you master a elite profession to go PvP ing you are a fool, any templater will beat you at the minute but until the combat balance is looked at going elite aint worth jack combat wise.


As for the main reason for posting i would personally like to see no mandalorian armor in game as this feels like bastardizing a cult figure, what next a few kids scream about vaders gear and soon black is the new brown?? The whole concept now goes out the window it is no longer star wars as i knew it, its a free for all, people scream for jedi it is done people cry jedi are weak they are now revamping the newest profession over 3 fixes which could be used for content or fixing all the professions to a standard.


It doesnt matter what i type this post will be flamed and disregarded the truth is this game has a lot of potential to be great and while i see all the people talk about WOW, Everquest 2,linage and all the other MMORPG's coming out those games are easy, write a nice plot here and there and addsome nice scenery people will go ahhh! in this game anything done is scrutinized by all of us fans as we know various pieces of the EU and rant as soon as something gets done so its harder for the devs to be accurate with thousands screaming down there neck E.g. there is a definitive picture of a ST we can all see in our heads now you think of an fantasy figure say an orc what is the correct depiction awnser who cares i have seen many examples as long as they have basic resemblences nobody cares.


You think of Star wars now in your head when u first seen them before all the EU stuff what where the main professions you can think of: Jedi = luke Smuggler = han Politician = Leia Bounty hunter = BobaFett Sith Lord = Vader all i am saying is people brought this game for possibly one of these professions ( probably not leia's )and while i have no wish to be a boba clone i am sure there are people out there who do, i would much rather see an armorsmith ability to change the appearence of comp armour so no 2 suits are the same or profession related armor upgrades like the kamino dart thing or a smuggling compartment for smugglers you get the jist of it, trying to make every player individual or unique, whats gonna happen when it all dies down and the armor is no longer the talking point of the gamewhat then?


I say no to mandalorian but yes toa different armor that will be profession specific if u are a commando then on completion of a set quest or dungeon you wil recieve a set of armor designed for that profession so every one gets included and the next time we see some uber loot in a patch it wont be "Vaders special party armor " that he keeps as a spare.


Please dont let this game become even more of a joke try an turn things around now SOE i wanna see rebels vs imperials stormtroopers actually cracking down rebels actually being the freedom fighters they are and targeting com towers or something i would also like to see maybe two new factions to split the population a little more something to help us capture that star wars feel we first had when we saw the electronic twin suns of tatooine or the digitised waterfalls of theed make us want to play again and not feel like this game is an extension of work make us log in for something worth while..............


Now the flames may commence!








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Figu
Sat Apr 03, 2004 8:30 pm
#364

There is lot of agruing going on here all i want is it to not be craftable for morale issue and Star wars theory


I just want to say that they should make a jet pack vehicle that be soo cool lol im 15 sooo sorry for my childish idea

but until i see 10 ppl runing around in RIS armor im highly against Craftable Mando armor


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