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Thread: On Mandalorian Armor
The idea about armor certifications is pretty good, but I fear it's too late now (at least this year). I think they made the armor totally wrong in SWG. The big problem is the buffs and making it not certified. Anyone can get a buff and buy the meanest, heaviest composite armor they can find and run around like a one-man-tank-machine. It would be interesting to know how many of the players who actually think they can beat up darth vader if they got the chance. It basically kills the whole star wars feel.
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but the buffs are too strong. That's why everyone is wearing composite armor, and that's why you fear everyone will wear the mandalorian armor. The encumberance of an armor don't seem to have a big effect on buffed characters. I don't know why, but it should at least slow down the characters. And by also "tweaking" the combat skills when wearing armor you would keep the ranged profession from being too powerful as the melee professions would need the speed from an oiled up naked body to get close. But this will never happen, the entire community would probably go on a witchhunt for devs if they no longer could solo rancors.
By the way, I don't really like seeing entertainers dance in their composite armor.
Please only make it a dungeon that is:
1) instanced and on a time limit.
2) requires some kind of "give up" from a BH - say, they must spend 20k investigation xp to open the dungeon. Not impossible to obtain, but definitely not easy.
3) allows an MBH and an MBH ONLY (no group) to go.
So, MBH gets 20k investigation xp, spends it to spawn the dungeon, and gets to try to complete it. If they fail, they have to pay the 20k again.
Boba And Jango Fett are an anomoly to normal Mandalorian Armour use, not an example of any kind of statistical norm. Their suit(s) were highly modified and in no way represent the original functions of the suits, except for their apperance. All arguments that this armour should be BH only are pointless. Being a BH does not make you Boba Fett, and does not entitle you to this awesome armour. Do not use Boba Fett as an example, you are not Boba Fett. Sith Players don't go around begging for Vader's armour, no, cause they are not Darth Vader.
Mandalorian armour was worn by Madalorians, not by BH's. I feel that the it should be certed to wear, with all combat professions recieving the cert at Mastering an Elite combat profession(including SL, BH and Commando). I think that only those with humanoid heads, should be able to wear the helmet, or there should be an additional hoop to jump through to make a Mon Cal version of the helmet. And if you want it not to suck, make it craftable by Armoursmiths, not a drop with fixed stats. If it fits on your body, you should be able to wear it, period. If you have high level combat skills you should be able to use it effectively. There is no "Bounty Hunter Mandalorian Training Course" out there that only MBH's can apply to.
A lot of people are really upset that RIS is so ridiculous to make and takes way too much time and effort for the protection involved. If this armour was craftable and only made for Master BH's I wouldn't bother making any sets, the market would be too rare.
And since this Armour will go live in a mini publish, I have serious doubts that they will make the reward only available to such a tiny minority as Master BH's represent.
To Shug:
I'm going to give you serious feed back on your idea. Afteralmost a year of play time this game has had, you guys at SOE still have not learned what makes this game become very frustrating. You want to make a dungeon that will enable you to get a full suit of the mandalorian armor. Why does this seem so familiar? Let me refresh your memory Jedi Holocrons debacle. Force Crystal cave = major camping. If anyone can go and loot the infamous Mandalorian armor then how can it be unique? If anything you will have the same senario unfold that happened at the caves. Imp players bringing 1-2 or more (if grouped) at-st's.
I think that this should definately be QUEST based and only available to Master Bounty Hunters and maybe Commando's! There has been such an outcry for more quest based story lines and here is a prime example of what should bea quest. This quest should berandomized and not able to be camped. It should have a long treacherous course and should not be able to be grouped. If the MBH gets a group together to help him/her get the armor then the quest should not allow the player to continue.
Also as far as having the item crafted? Big FAT HELL NO! To follow SW continuity only the Mandalorians were able to fashion the armour.I don't mean to diss on the crafters but you know as well as anyone else that this armour is specific only to the Mandalorians and their ability to create it.
One last thing in order for to be fair to the SWG community and all the different species I believe that the armor should be able to be worn by all and not just certain races. I'm not certain what the continuity says in regards to wookies, trandoshans, and bothans being able to wear the armour. So a little bit of research should be in order here. If there is no definative answer then I would say make it wearable to all, and even go as far as making different kinds armor specific to the different races.
I hope this helps and you take this into advicement.
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This is a supplement to my previous post.
After further investigation into the topic of who can and can not wear Mandalorian Armour, it has been found that their is no current information on the subject in star wars data bank. This being the case it should be noted that their is no specific proof to who can wear the amour and that said it should be open to all species. This would gave an opportunity to the art department to come up with some stunning visuals of what the armour would look like if it were species specific. Example a helmet that twi'leks appendages can fit through, boots that can fit Trandoshans, etc. Of course the armour should encompass all of the armour parts and not just certain areas.
Xrcon wrote:
This is a supplement to my previous post.
After further investigation into the topic of who can and can not wear Mandalorian Armour, it has been found that their is no current information on the subject in star wars data bank. This being the case it should be noted that their is no specific proof to who can wear the amour and that said it should be open to all species. This would gave an opportunity to the art department to come up with some stunning visuals of what the armour would look like if it were species specific. Example a helmet that twi'leks appendages can fit through, boots that can fit Trandoshans, etc. Of course the armour should encompass all of the armour parts and not just certain areas.
Ok some typo's for which I can not edit this message.
Where it says "This would gave an opportunity to the art department....." It should say "This would give an opportunity to that art department....."
Where is says "Of course the armour should encompass....." It should read "Of course the armour artwork should encompass ..... "
Sorry for the mistakes.
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But the mandalorian army was this" shaddap! i dont see THEM in the movies, i see em in an offshoot comic, SOOOOO WHAT? Boba and jango were bounty hunters, not commando's, i never once saw boba pull a carbine
Lets see...
BHs dont want to see the armor all over the server, well thats cool, I dont either. But thats really not the case cause like you keep saying Armorsmiths might charge a TON for a single piece... well.. if they DO, then dont you think that that MIGHT limit how many people have it?
Oh wait, Im sorry.. that might mean some BHs wont be able to get it and that just wont do, will it?
And also, asking for this armor to go to BHs only because you feel your Profession is 'broken' is PURE BS. STOP IT.