Development Cycle Archive

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Daker-Naritus wrote:
..(b) pay a doctor 5000 credits, EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR ARMOR ON OR OFF),to fully buff your secondary stats AND THEN buya bunch of mind enhancement food, because there is no mind buff that covers mind secondaries...

So, there are 2 major flaws with your crap argument fron the start... First, unless you want to constantly pay for buffs so that your strength, constitution, stamina, and quickness stats are more than 1 (you would ALWAYS have to be buffed, or you would never regenerate hit pointsor be able touse specials without dying) you will have to migrate stats.

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You do realize that I already have to do all this stuff anyway just to survive 15 minutes in any given combat situation. Heck, I bet I currently spend moremoney on buff items than just about any non-wookiee. There are things that even a modestly armored person without a buff can solo that I wouldn't dream of doing without getting buff'd first.

Q-3PO wrote:

I tried to get that info for the Feature, but they are still being worked out by the devlopers. I can tell you that this will not be the strongest armor because we intend to add more in the future. I'm guessing we'll release those next week.

So in other words is the wookie equivalent o bone armor?

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DavidGX wrote:
.......... BWAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAH!

I guess this is payback for all that "waaaaaaaaah we're ghimped in pvp waaaaaaaaaah we need armor!!" stuff.

Thank you gods of starwars galaxies.

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heh Lets see how quick you are to thank them when you can't gimp kill wookies anymore. No more insta-faction point farm. They can make it pink with purple flowers on it and Ill wear it as long as it allows me to function in combat on a level consistent with every single non SWG reference to wookie battle prowess.

The wookie in SWG is a total joke. People should be afraid of Wookies, people should say "Uh-Oh we got an INC Wookie and he looks mad". I mean considering every single reference in any media related to SW and Wookies clearly state that an enraged Wookie is one of the most feared opponents in the galaxy.

Mandalorians, the supposed greatest warriors the galaxy ever saw, even respected the Wookie in battle. They looked down on them because of their pacifist nature, but still respected what a wookie was capable of in combat. Through SW History the wookie has been enslaved and subjugated by other races due to their pacifist nature, but fear of Wookie combatants wasalways the reason at the coreof the enslavement.

Now I am not asking for the wookie to be the new AT-ST, you know overpowered, underbalanced and implemented without a shred of evidence that it was ever intended to conform to the SW Mythos, but I digress. What I am asking for, and what all wookies are asking for is the ability to fight and not become the constant target of 13 year old gimps who see us as easy FPs. Nothing I like more than getting bleed and shot to death at extreme ranges by a 80% resist composite armor wearing, kryat gun using gimp who then prances around like the balerina he is claiming he "owned" my 0% resist fur covered, LVA using rear end.

lol I can't wait, I got a whole lot of pent up payback that has been waiting for this day. I pity the gimps out there who will now have to work for their PvP wins.

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kruschev666 wrote:

You know Arasett some of us wookies did not fight for wookiee armor because we did not want it in the game. I personally like to run around naked with a backpack just like in the movies. If the weather is bad I will put on my long wookie smock just to keep my fur dry.

I play a wookiee because I do not want to worry about armor. I remember a human buddy telling me that he bought a set of composite armor for 250k and then could not put it on. That is just stupid.

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It may not be straight out of the pages of GQ but then Its a concept drawing. Look at some of the old concept drawings

from the movies, of note the almost tragic 1950 Buck Rogers inspired original concept for Darth Vader.

Concept are =/= end product. Its designed to give the public and executives a general idea of what the end product will look like.

Major or Minor tweaks are done as they go along.

I think in the case of the Wookies, while some wookies may have access to Wookie Sized Composite armor, those will be the few, well conencted Wookies. Where as the vast majority will be "straight outta Kashyykk" and the armor proposed lends itself to that feel. Its design concept encorporates natural items (wood etc) and the properties of those items are unknown at this time. After all there are woods on Earth that are nearly as strong and durable as some metals and other items that occur naturally that have the structural durability of objects several times their thickness. Take an egg for instance, sure its fragile when you smack it on the side of a sharp object due to its fragile matrial, but the "architecture" of the egg shape is very strong.

My point being, don't laugh or write off the Wookie armor because its not the uber sleek, everyone who is anyone is wearing it, Composite armor. I mean hell Composite armor is so played. The endless processions of drone composite PvPers is boring.

Personally I would have prefered the boost to PvP to come in the way of some physical conditioning or something. Wookie only trainers who train up your resists after you have a certain amount of "damage exp" for instance, take enough flame damage and you can train up your natural damage resist with "physical conditioning" or something like that. Its my opinion that wookies shouldn't need armor to be fearsome opponents but natural ability is hard to represent in a video game and an accross the board racial bonus will still leave us woefully deffecient in battle compared to the master combat classes with full composite.

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Daker-Naritus wrote:
..(b) pay a doctor 5000 credits, EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR ARMOR ON OR OFF),to fully buff your secondary stats AND THEN buya bunch of mind enhancement food, because there is no mind buff that covers mind secondaries...

So, there are 2 major flaws with your crap argument fron the start... First, unless you want to constantly pay for buffs so that your strength, constitution, stamina, and quickness stats are more than 1 (you would ALWAYS have to be buffed, or you would never regenerate hit pointsor be able touse specials without dying) you will have to migrate stats.

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You do realize that I already have to do all this stuff anyway just to survive 15 minutes in any given combat situation. Heck, I bet I currently spend moremoney on buff items than just about any non-wookiee. There are things that even a modestly armored person without a buff can solo that I wouldn't dream of doing without getting buff'd first.

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Dude, freaking read what I said (2 times if need be). I have said for months that wookiees need armor. I am simply taking issue with the fact that wookiees are asking for armor comparable to current players' armor. That is wrong.

Wookiees already get a 23% "armor" bonus through their increased stats, in addition to more special abilities than any other class gets.

All I am saying is that any wookiee armor needs to be ataround 25% less effective than current player armor's capabilities.

Understand? Good. Now stop freaking out.

Daker-Naritus wrote:

..(b) pay a doctor 5000 credits, EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR ARMOR ON OR OFF),to fully buff your secondary stats AND THEN buya bunch of mind enhancement food, because there is no mind buff that covers mind secondaries...

Actually there are. Entertainer buffs will effect secondary mind stats.

Dude, freaking read what I said (2 times if need be). I have said for months that wookiees need armor. I am simply taking issue with the fact that wookiees are asking for armor comparable to current players' armor. That is wrong.

Comparable and the same are not the same thing. Comparable means it equals out. Why is asking for that wrong?

Wookiees already get a 23% "armor" bonus through their increased stats, in addition to more special abilities than any other class gets.

No. Wookiees have a 13% HAM bonus.

Wookiees do not get more special abilities than any other class. Assume you meant to say race, not class. However Wookiees have five racial bonuses. Three of which have been nerfed. So since we're at two basically that is on par with other races.

All I am saying is that any wookiee armor needs to be ataround 25% less effective than current player armor's capabilities.

Why? HAM bonus is 13%, not 25%. Also as someone pointed out to me, the correct formula is for the Wookiee in armor to take 13% more damage than a non-Wookiee in same kind of armor. Not for reducing the resists by 13% nor the 25% you advocate.

I think the armor makes sense from a continuity perspective. It SHOULD be made of the natural elements as they are beings of the earth (ground, not planet), forests and nature. However, there are two problemswith the way it is presented.

1) Since this is made for aggressive beings (Wookies), it should be made to look more battle-worn and rough. The current Wookie clothing within the game looks more fitting of a Wookie Warrior than this armor concept. Keep the same look, just rough it up a bit. This may be as simple as just re-coloring some of the elements of the armor as it looks to "clean".

2) The other problem that would resolve a lot of the jokes on these boards is the concept drawing itself. Here we are displaying a Wookie Warrior wearing armor... in a pose that looks like he is walking the catwalk at a fashion show. I'm sure a lot of the pundits would recant there comments about the armor if the concept art was in an aggressive pose with some sort of weapon (gee, bowcasters look neat, how about one of those...). Prancing is just not becoming of a Wookie...

My two cents...

Cheers,

Rorahabacca

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Waste93 wrote:

Wookiees already get a 23% "armor" bonus through their increased stats, in addition to more special abilities than any other class gets.

No. Wookiees have a 13% HAM bonus.

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All I am saying is that any wookiee armor needs to be ataround 25% less effective than current player armor's capabilities.

Why? HAM bonus is 13%, not 25%. Also as someone pointed out to me, the correct formula is for the Wookiee in armor to take 13% more damage than a non-Wookiee in same kind of armor. Not for reducing the resists by 13% nor the 25% you advocate.

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Do the math.

Repeated from above (which AGAIN you didn't read):

"Wookies get at least anadditional 700 attribute points over other classes. Dividing those points over health, action, and mind, and you get 233.

Using your logic, if you give wookies 80% armor just like everyone else what you get is wookies with 6165 HAM. That means wookies get 23% more ham with armor than any other class."

1233 HAM is 23% more than 1000 HAM. Math...learn it, live it, love it.

Thank God we're seeing some concrete work done on wookiee protection/armor. I anxiously awaited that concept art to pop up and about died laughing. I just watched the Simpsons last night and that "bear armor" that Homer made seems eerily similar...