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Thread: The Path of the Jedi: Reckoning of Effort

Whaler
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:40 pm
#326

Just play the game...



- I support keeping & balancing the current combat system You can too
SirKnightTerry
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:41 pm
#327



This thread is so long now nobody will read the comments so lets try this.


This Sucks.


If you agree just put a reply that says.


Ditto.



timmymymy
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:42 pm
#328

i dont think that people wanted to be a jedi in a weekwnd but did if qulified to get the vist that is all then told to wait because the dev knew but did nothig to control the number of people tha twe ready to got to the village. Why did they not just make extra villages just like the vette. that was a system that the whole galaxy could start in the same day the patch went through.



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TheOxygen
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:42 pm
#329

Attention Whatever Dev is Reading: Harvesters are broken.


I had 36 harvesters on Codoan Copper the past week, it shifted out yesterday. So today I go to empty the harvesters, and while half the hoppers are full of said copper, the other half are full of random in-shift resources (some of which shifted in this morning).


This bug is pretty annoying to those who, you know, actually want the resources that they set their harvesters to mine.


Also, if you don't mind me asking, how in the hell does something like this get broken when there were no update notes regarding harvesters?


--Iaan K'Vork

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Jaspor
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:42 pm
#330

Wow, when was the last time we had an official Dev announcement not receive a overwhelmingly negative response? I guess all the people who are happy are playing the game, not complaining on the forums, right? ;P


Easy way to do some damage control: Give us some good news for a change. Like go ahead and officially announce that EVERYBODY will be receiving anew character slot on each server when JTL goes live. We know you're going to do it, so why not tell us now? Without that, nobody will be playing the new races, silly.




Jaspor
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Aerathi
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:42 pm
#331

I'd give you a well thought out, intelligent post: but you haven't given me a well thought out, intelligent system.


I waited a long time for patch day, made a lot of people not ruin patch day for me. Of course the only people who could ruin it were SOE. And you went out of you're way to do it.


Examine me. Check your records. **edit** off.



ARVIN LORN
I are ninja!
VicePrexHerkin
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:42 pm
#332

oh wow..so you all eluded to the fact that you really needed the POI badges so everybody would scramble around to get them just to get people to stay and play...thats sure what the hell this looks like. you have really fouled up this time. Ive been playing for a year...did not want to do the hologrind but stuck around because of the supposed new system..now everybody has to go back to the hologrind again to unlock..wait...wasnt that the change you were all making?? like a friend of mine just said..."I can't continue to pay for a game that sticks it to me and doesn't even care to use vaseline." this sucks big ones.



Teh OWEM
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Thunderheart
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:43 pm
#333


First, let me say, I know there are many burning questions in the community and Im feverishly working on them all. My absence was due to a long campingweekend. We got rained out so bad it was like camping in a Dantooine downpour and I caught a nasty chest cold. The summit followed up and now Im catching up. Expect information to cover the credit issue, publish feedback threads then a holobits about the summit and then Im heading back into my hut to polish up the Combat Balance docs. For those who were eager to see those as a Friday Feature, they probably will be, but we made some changes based on board feedback and had to delay the post a bit...



On to some questions...









jedipsychofire777 wrote:


TH, is there any way we can tell what "village access" group we are in?






There isn't a hard and fast rule, but there is a solid correlation based on how many professions you completed compared with how many holo-professions you unlocked. For instance, if you finished 31 professions, there is a extremely strong likelihood you'll get 5 branches unlocked. If you finished 29 or 30 professions, you most likely will get 4 branches and so on. Beyond that there is no hard and fast way to tell. Though like I said, there is almost a direct corrolation between how many total professions (32)were completed and how many holo-professions were completed.








SirLithium wrote:
So, massive hologrinders first... that's fair. But are we talking "wait until Phase 2 of the village before Group 1 gets the visit", or "wait until traffic dies down, and Phase 1 of the village is still active, and Group 1 gets the visit"?






Both actually. The rate at which it will occur will be based on the final numbers of how many people muscled their way through professions from Publish 9 to Publish 10. We'll be monitoring it on a daily basis - - the reason being we want to make sure that everyone has a good time and isn't overcrowded. Once we get through this bigcrowd of people, the natural pace of village access wont need this type of virtual valve.







Hollyrosie wrote:
TH if i automaticly qualify - where is my Old Man?






Just go about your business and he will visit you in a day or so


It will happen outside of a city and in 1-3 days





Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Community Relations Manager
RenegadeRen
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:44 pm
#334

i think they should charge 30.00 for a new fs slot and make everybody happy...........

Kalbo
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:44 pm
#335






Cutedge wrote:





Thunderheart wrote:
Since there is a large wave of players that will be going through the system, we are going to be monitoring traffic daily as players start and finish the Force Sensitive quests. When enough people have completed their path, we will open it up the village to the next group. Groups 1 – 4 will qualify for a visit when the village traffic has died down. Of course, if you qualify for the visit under the new system, you will automatically be granted a visit from the old man.






Read that again. Then again. After that, once more.

What this means:
The traffic is measured DAILY. This means that you will have to wait a week (at most) if you are in the latter groups. The quests will be completed by most people in a few days. You're not going to have to wait as group 1 goes through the ENTIRE village in all four phases, you're going to wait as people finish the quests for the current particular Village phase. If you can't wait 4 days to go to the village, than go ahead and quit. Go ahead and try to find another MMO game that "listens to it's customers" by allowing them to become all powerful immediately.

Sheesh.

People need to calm down over this. Everyone is crying about how they can't make Jedi today. You know what? Too bad. You think you deserve it because you're paying $15 a month? Well, I pay the same amount and i'm a mid-range Pistoleer. I'm not crying that I haven't gotten 4/4/4/4 in that or in Medic (yet). It's part of the game. But all the wannabe jedis here (not the people playing mind you, i know that you are not the majority of future jedi players) are whining because they can't become the uber jedi in days. Instead they're going to have to work for it. You'll have to play the game as intended. Mastering your class should take time. It shouldn't be obtainable in days, or hours. If you had to take a month in order to get jedi, should you be upset? No, you should be able to say in the future "yeah, I got jedi through hard work and determination". Just like any class should be able to say the same.

The way the game works now is broken. If you want to see what SWG should be, try getting a group of unbuffed people and doing missions. Watch the medic frantically run back and forth while healing, as TKNs attack in the front lines and ranged classes sit back and support. It's fun, believe me. But instead of that, we have 2600 buffs, people tumbling in the med center (which i refuse to use, even though i'm going for CM), and the powerlevel grind. Now we have jedi who are going to have to wait a few days before they can start the village who are already upset that they aren't getting credit for randomly grinding professions. And of course, people are already saying the threat they use most often on these boards: "that's it, i'm cancelling my account!!!1!"

Look, I know some of you did the grind in order to better yourselves for this. I can't say i understand why you did. Content like this doesn't come every day. The village looks to be one of the cooler pieces in the game, and you all want to skip it?

/sigh
/hanghead
/waits for one-stars


(oh, and gg to the people who are DOSing the forum servers)





I could care less if I was gated for a week before I could even try. What really irks me is that if they would have told us this yesterday I would have gone to work instead of taking a vacation day. I had two really contrasting expieriences in the game today. First, I was elated when i did /check and found that all my hard work paid off and I should soon be getting a visit from the old man. Then I was totally disgusted when the revelation was made that we probably wouldnt be seeing the old man for days, if we were lucky. This information given only 24 hours earlier would not have had the same effect on the community. I dont want to skip it, I want to be able to get in and enjoy it!



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Keuller
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:44 pm
#336

You have received a new badge: Master Quitter
Bad Game Devs, bad business decision SOE, I warned you static timed gating would be unacceptable after over a year of play, but you've still got a distinct hearing problem it appears.



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OlisJ
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:45 pm
#337






Cutedge wrote:





Thunderheart wrote:
Since there is a large wave of players that will be going through the system, we are going to be monitoring traffic daily as players start and finish the Force Sensitive quests. When enough people have completed their path, we will open it up the village to the next group. Groups 1 – 4 will qualify for a visit when the village traffic has died down. Of course, if you qualify for the visit under the new system, you will automatically be granted a visit from the old man.






Read that again. Then again. After that, once more.

What this means:
The traffic is measured DAILY. This means that you will have to wait a week (at most) if you are in the latter groups. The quests will be completed by most people in a few days. You're not going to have to wait as group 1 goes through the ENTIRE village in all four phases, you're going to wait as people finish the quests for the current particular Village phase. If you can't wait 4 days to go to the village, than go ahead and quit. Go ahead and try to find another MMO game that "listens to it's customers" by allowing them to become all powerful immediately.

Sheesh.

People need to calm down over this. Everyone is crying about how they can't make Jedi today. You know what? Too bad. You think you deserve it because you're paying $15 a month? Well, I pay the same amount and i'm a mid-range Pistoleer. I'm not crying that I haven't gotten 4/4/4/4 in that or in Medic (yet). It's part of the game. But all the wannabe jedis here (not the people playing mind you, i know that you are not the majority of future jedi players) are whining because they can't become the uber jedi in days. Instead they're going to have to work for it. You'll have to play the game as intended. Mastering your class should take time. It shouldn't be obtainable in days, or hours. If you had to take a month in order to get jedi, should you be upset? No, you should be able to say in the future "yeah, I got jedi through hard work and determination". Just like any class should be able to say the same.

The way the game works now is broken. If you want to see what SWG should be, try getting a group of unbuffed people and doing missions. Watch the medic frantically run back and forth while healing, as TKNs attack in the front lines and ranged classes sit back and support. It's fun, believe me. But instead of that, we have 2600 buffs, people tumbling in the med center (which i refuse to use, even though i'm going for CM), and the powerlevel grind. Now we have jedi who are going to have to wait a few days before they can start the village who are already upset that they aren't getting credit for randomly grinding professions. And of course, people are already saying the threat they use most often on these boards: "that's it, i'm cancelling my account!!!1!"

Look, I know some of you did the grind in order to better yourselves for this. I can't say i understand why you did. Content like this doesn't come every day. The village looks to be one of the cooler pieces in the game, and you all want to skip it?

/sigh
/hanghead
/waits for one-stars


(oh, and gg to the people who are DOSing the forum servers)






I unlocked in P9 that means I'm automatically qualify, what a he...?


I don't get it? We pay for entertainment o waiting?


Please answer me this.




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Helsflame
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:46 pm
#338

So wait let me get this straight

Becuz ive been playing 9 months but didn't try and literaly f*ck up the economy/gameplay(i hereby mean r*pe my char by grinding professions) . And i didn't unlock but i am glowing meaning i have done the "mysterious part" .(i know what it is but still)


So i get punished and prob have to wait 1 more month while ive allready been waiting 3 months???


HMM well the only fact i really understant here is actually easily said in 6 lil words.


do u have sh*t for brains. Should i deserve my jedi??? No i havn't grinded enough for it.. Should i ge the same oppurtunitys as others. Yes becuz ive been playing jsut as long and i maybe havn't been grinding alot(thats why i don't deserve the credit) but acces would be nice.


Maybe u guys havn't figured out yet that not only hologrinders want there jedi. Now i can udnerstand u wanna prevent lag so i suggest maybe a 1 hour per day limit on staying in the village?? Cuz euh this is ure randow bullsh*t like iva said. Ive done the mysterious part and u guys said in ure post i would get acces its been 5 hours now and still no old man and ive done it on tc2 so i know what i have to do. Just an answer would be nice U guys got a email from me those 6 lil words were in it to.


U should be proud actually in nine months ive never been f*cked over as worse as i am now GRZ u did a goooood job



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