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Srank

Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:11 pm

Well i hate to see such obvious disreguard for the people of this community.

I know everyone at SOE has jobs and other things to do, but when you post something so controversal and don't have someone dedicated to at least check the topic once every so many hours just leads me to think you guys lack some serious leadership.

I also find it highly offensive that you have "cryptic" statements and follow up answers to people who pay you for simple, clear, and timely answers. I also would to point out these people also pay you to fix the game issues that have been around almost since the launch date.

Not being a stranger to MMOs I must say there is always a feel of a Beta type restructure to certain things, however i haven't seen enough basic "fixes" to indicate to me you guys have a proper goal when it comes to this game.

I as well as the majority of my friends feel that instead of taking pride in the concept and betterment of the intial idea of SWG.. you have fallen victim to the $$$ers. Let's face it things that are broke in the game have been addressed for so long that it's just silly that they havent been fixied.

Maybe it's not SWG divisions fault. Maybe it's SOE itself. I wish i could see how you guys are broken down. Exploit divison, CSR divison, Concept Divison, Fix it Divison, and finally Forum Profession Liaison division, etc etc.That would make some sense to me. Instead i get the feeling everyones name is placed in a hat and the names are drawn at random for the divison you will be working at for that day.

All i have to say is this was a great concept and unfotrunaly the Devs and Management have totally ruined it and my enjoyment of the game.

Like i stated in my last post. I don't mind spending money to play MMOs, and i don't mind taking my money elsewhere, and with that I hope you guys nail this issue down before April the 28th when City of Heros goes live.

Instead of worrying about how to bring new players in, you might want to figure out how to keep existing player from leaving.

Hint********* If you fix it they will play *************

P.S. For all those on tempest it's been a blast playing with you.. I shall miss HAKD and there rebel killing prowess. You guys are the best PvP guild that i have seen in a long time. Honorable Mention to IOI and UF .. good luck to you guys.. the Empire will truly win on Tempest hands down. If the new PvP jedi gets in i would almost pay to see you guys go off on poor Rebels. If you guys get bored come look for me on City of Heros..

ObiPaul

Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:19 pm

#327

P.S. For all those on tempest it's been a blast playing with you.. I shall miss HAKD and there rebel killing prowess. You guys are the best PvP guild that i have seen in a long time. Honorable Mention to IOI and UF .. good luck to you guys.. the Empire will truly win on Tempest hands down. If the new PvP jedi gets in i would almost pay to see you guys go off on poor Rebels. If you guys get bored come look for me on City of Heros..

Cry us all a river...

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Dalton V'Dinn
Bounty Hunter extraordinaire
Wanderhome
PHEAR THE LEKKU!

Killed by Darth SOE's NGE light saber.. but I am more powerful now than they could possibly imagine..

Srank

Mon Apr 19, 2004 2:24 pm

#328

LOL you must have stock in Sony.. becuase the direction the game is/has been going they are the only true winners so far.

Srank

Mon Apr 19, 2004 2:49 pm

#329

People, why is it so hard for you to understand that YOU DO NOT BECOME A JEDI UNLESS YOU PURSUE THE QUESTS.

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Iguess it's hard for some people to understand that paying to become somethingunder system 1 and put inX hrs/months/money on itto have it then change andhave it said tobad so sad in so many words just isn't RIGHT for those people who have done it.

Also i find it so funny thatpeoplesaythis:

Oh gee, I wanna be a jedi so I am gonna be ...umm... a Master Chef! Yeah, because this holo said so!!"

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Yes i to agree the holo idea was a total flop and horrid concept, but just becuase it was you shouldn't punish the players who where playing by the "rules"

and i would also argue that SOE has placed the game wrong time line if they want all these jedi running around. Lets face it if we use the books and the movies as a reference You can count how many jedi there were on one hand and how many "force sensitivity" people ontwo fingers.... Until the twins are born.. and that time line flows.

Obi... jedi master

Yoda... jedi master

Dark Vader.. dark jedi

Emperor.... Sith Lord

Force Sens

Luke and Lia.... granted an people can argue the ins and outs of the order i got these in, but the fact remains that there isn't a ton of jedi running around and they aren't kill each other at this current time frame.

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So i don't care if they redo the current system.. they just need to take care of those who are/have grinded out so much and not put them on the same footing as someone who just logged in for the first time.

Frankly your Cry me a river qutoe is just so funny to me, but if you want to pay to play a game that refuses to fix year old bugs and chooses to ignore what some players have invested in the game...well then

I have some prime ocean front property in Arizona ill sell ya

kurgen101

Mon Apr 19, 2004 4:24 pm

#330

I could only be bothered reading the 1st 3 pages after that it got monotonous. I've been playing this game for 8 months fairly happy with the way it was going. Then at Christmas we were "gently" nudged to grind the Holo's. I like many decided to do this and as of now am on the brink of reaching my 5th "silent" Holo.

I know people have already voiced this concern but the more the merrier and hopefully when the Dev's release information in the future they may think about clarifying it a bit better to stop the wave of confusion. I would like to know that for those of us that have not unlocked the FS slot but who are madly grinding to do so, that our efforts will not go unnoticed or unrewarded. The Devs put the Holo's into the game meaning for us to grind, now they are changing the rules supposedly for the better, well thats great except for the people who have been grinding for 4 months or longer to become a jedi. So please if anyone of any note is reading this forum, please come out and clarify all these questions, I can see that if this is done poorly the rate of disconnections will sky rocket.

Jaysunkillaton

Mon Apr 19, 2004 4:34 pm

#331

Hello,I been playing weeks before Act 1 and i put alot of money and time into this game. i haloed grinded with the thought that i can walk around being a jedi and having people say ooooooo thiers a jedi. < meaning jedi is rare and hard to get > and if this revamp makes it where new people who come to this game yesterday can be a jedi in matter of a month or just handed them its a slap in the face. Sure you reward the jedi'sfor thier hard work they put into the game but face it , its no real car or a real 27 inch tv. its going to be some item for your house or something the jedi can use for awhile till its easy destroyed and i dont think that will be worth it. i think the worthy reward would be more skill points for your main charater. and this then that confuses me and other people is this talk about having more charaters slots. i think thier should be 2 slots per server [ Main charater and your jedi ]. why you ask , well having 2 slots already makes people go broke quickly and having to worry about another sounds stupid to me. not only thatyou have more people acting like punks and retards because they have 3 charaters to hide behind. its going to add alot more drama to game and i thought i got rid of that when i stoped playing counter strike and iam sureyour having problems now, wait till the drama starts. better start to hiring more people to take care of adult kids that have no self respect. iam sure this is your way of getting people to keep playing or even kill the ebay sellers but this isnt the answer. your only going to make it harder on yourself. no matter what you do people is still going to find something to cry about and your going to loose accounts. by larger amounts of acounts if jedi isnt rare. why u ask , well this means people will get bored easier cause they have nothin to look forword to and they will want to find a game worthy to play. face it having a bunch of people running around as a jedi isnt going to be that fun and not only that alot of professions will die out and noone will be able to find what their looking for cause thier to buzy playing thier jedi to care about thier main charater. sounds like to me your trying to kill this game. And this is foryou whinners that want your jedi handed to you. WHY DID YOU EVEN BUY THIS GAME , GO PLAY SW: JEDI ACADEMY , WORK FOR YOUR JEDI. ITS A REWARD FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND LONG HOURS PUT INTO THE GAME. ITS A MORPG IF YOU WANT SOMETHING HANDED TO YOU I THINK YOUR JUST A BUNCH OF LAZY RETARDS THAT CANT DO SOMETHING FOR YOURSELF. I THINK YOU YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT RPG MEANS, ROLE PLAYING GAME. flame me all you want but face it iam right and when this stupid then go downs we will see nothin but people using profession only if its helps thier jedi. and all those odd jobs will never be used. sure you might have a few people using them cause they like doing peoples hair but you wont be able to find someone for a month and if you do thier going to be to buzy for you. this is for the people who say they dont want to be jedi your full of crap. stop lying to devs to make it look like people dont care so they can bring the easy path and stop lying to yourself because yourself is even saying your full of crap. telling the truth will set u free. This is whats going to happen when this goes down people that worked hard for what they got is going to see the reward isnt worth it and is going to give up thier accounts and the people thatis starting to play will only enjoy the game for so long then get bored and thats more accounts that will be lost. soon it will be just a bunch of people running around has jedis and nothin will be RPG about this game. they should just change to Massive online ARCADE.

please DEVs think about what your going to do to this game. i wouldnt worry about the whinners that cry so much cause thier going to stop playing the game anyways cause people is never happy. think about the players that put alot into this game and never intended on leaving cause those is the people that will keep the new accounts coming to this game and is looked up to cause of thier thier time and effort to this game.

1) please make it harder to open jedi then it sounds

2) only 2 slots per server [ Main charater and Jedi ]

3) stoping the halo grinding will kill the professions that noone wants. so maybe still put 5 random profession that can beread from the holocrons and they still have to complete the jedi quest revamp.

4) good reward is more skill points for your main charater

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other changes like to see

5) add where when a person is overt or declared it shows thier rank in faction

6) New weapons like double guns - doubleswords - double sabors.where weaponsmiths can make a gun that uses2 guns but the stats is split into both guns butequiped has one gun.

majorslappy

Mon Apr 19, 2004 4:39 pm

#332

Leana said :

I may be confused but as far as I know, a Jedi only has to turn on their lightsaber and they get a TEF that makes them attackable by anyone. I also believe that if Jedi are too active doing force things, BH can be missions to hunt them. In both cases this is PvP and the Jedi has no option to avoid it.

Just because the Jedi do not go around attacking players, the fact that they can be attacked places them right in the middle of PvP.

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Leana you are correct about the TEF, but that doesn't mean PvP is inevitable. I have been scanned by STs and made overt many times as a rebel and no player engaged me in combat because I didn't give them time to. I hopped my speeder and took off. In addition, I have run rebel missions many times and gotten a TEF and not once have I been attacked by an imperial player while TEF'd. I have engaged in ST mowing (in Kor Vella) several times and, of course had a TEF. Only once in Kor Vella while TEF'd did I encounter an imperial player and he was the unfortunate victim of a rebel CM. I am careful, clever, and cautious. All traits that I am sure Yoda would say are good traits for a jedi to have, and I am not even remotely a jedi. PvP while TEF'd is not an inevitable consequence. If a jedi is careful, then he/she can be TEF'd and not encounter another player during the TEF time limit.

Once again, TEF does NOT equal PvP.

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I don't like pointless grinds.
Thank you for reintroducing decay!!!
I like a complex, immersive world simulation, full of possibilities, challenges and roleplay.
I want a player driven, crafting-based economy.

PsychoP919

Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:02 pm

#333

well the revamp of becomming a jedi sounds good, but i dont like the idea of lvl jedi kiight throu pvp, that means people will lose alot of slots with the decay! isnt it enough to worry about getting a tef from everyone once you fight, know we have to kill each other to lvl thats doesnt seem right. Galaxies is supose to be what you want, if you want to engage in pve, pvp, or crafting now if i want my jedi i have to strickly go pvp sorry i play alot and dont care to much for pvp i think its wrong to lvl that way!

Vaddo

Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:53 pm

#334

come on....cant u all stop conplaining. u say this game is soooo bad. if it it y do u play? Normal imperfict humans make imperfict games. get over it. what about the players who have played since launch and still cant unlock their FSCS. some ppl get it on their 6-7th try. i personaly love this idea. plz give the devs a break.

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vanBrown

Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:37 pm

#335

So TH let me get this straight

You can be FS and get to Jedi Knight... that requires unlocking the FS slot

THEN when you get to Jedi Knight you will have to "unlock" to go further along? Am I getting that right?

However, this sounds MUCH better than the new system.. I would suggest that you DO NOT change the current jedi over to the new system.. I.E. leave the old jedi in and force them to work through the new system. I know it sucks to hologrind, but if the new system is quest oriented and immersive (like we all hope it will be) then I know I will want to start my jedi over so that I can go through the quests and the content.

Oh I just came up with this

Give the current jedi the option to instantly have FS on their "main" so that they can try the new stuff out.

TrickyRussian

Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:04 am

#336

its set between 4 and 5

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Glum_Moonfist

Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:40 am

#337

So does this mean my character is effectively being exiled from the community if I want to pursue becoming a Jedi?

What happens to my current lots if I decide to follow the jedi path under this new system with my main character? Does this mean I lose my house, city citizen status, & lots until I reach Knight and get a regular character again?

Seems this new system will be just as bad for the community as the last one....

Everseeker

Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:54 am

#338

What happens to the holo grinders that haven't unlocked?
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They get to play through the new quest system in Publish 10.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

Please, use small words, for thoose of us in the cheap seats

(For heavens sake, PLEASE get us some enlightenment today!)

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