Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever
Takanudo
Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:59 pm
#313
Thunderheart, I realize that JTL is important to LucasArts and SOE because it will create renewed interest in the game and generate revenue. However, if JTL is anything less than a smooth launch, it will delay the GCW and CB revamps even further. This seems like a huge risk considering this game's history.SOE has shown improvement in howupdates are deployed, but I lack confidence in your ability to pull this off without a hitch. You risk further damaging your reputation by introducing an expantion of this scale before fixing game design flaws that have been exisiting for more than a year. No one is looking forward to JTL more than I, but I implore you to delay it's launch until the problems existing in the Galactic Civil War and Combat Balance have been addressed.
The JTL team should get to the point where they feel they are ready for launch. Then JTL should be shelved while the team is reintegrated into the live team. Then the entire team should, at the very least, give the GCW and CB one major update. I'm not expecting the GCW and CB to be fixed in one publish, but you should be able to address some of the major issues. Then you can come back to JTL.
-Takanudo
glowing_eyes
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:00 pm
#314
Well TH good luck on all this but adios I'm gone (too little, too late, too much smoke and mirrors). See everyone in the next game out there.
MandalorianArmr
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:01 pm
#315
hey that was my idea
Shropt wrote:
3 of Kauri's best players have cancelled their accounts since this post was posted. This has to stop.
BOYCOTT JTL!!!
An official boycott post will be spread around the forums. Please sign this petition and boycott till we get the combat revamp!
Message Edited by MandalorianArmr on 07-15-2004 03:01 PM
XxEvilFirexX
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:01 pm
#316
Thanks TH, it's obvious you guys have been ignoring the major issues in the game and are skipping over them to create new worse issues. Always nice to see you guys have your priorities in order
Promising revamps and pushing them back, watch them then take a backseat for the JTL problems that the expansion will have.
lore7
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:02 pm
#317
Takanudo wrote:
Thunderheart, I realize that JTL is important to LucasArts and SOE because it will create renewed interest in the game and generate revenue. However, if JTL is anything less than a smooth launch, it will delay the GCW and CB revamps even further. This seems like a huge risk considering this game's history.SOE has shown improvement in howupdates are deployed, but I lack confidence in your ability to pull this off without a hitch. You risk further damaging your reputation by introducing an expantion of this scale before fixing game design flaws that have been exisiting for more than a year. No one is looking forward to JTL more than I, but I implore you to delay it's launch until the problems existing in the Galactic Civil War and Combat Balance have been addressed.
The JTL team should get to the point where they feel they are ready for launch. Then JTL should be shelved while the team is reintegrated into the live team. Then the entire team should, at the very least, give the GCW and CB one major update. I'm not expecting the GCW and CB to be fixed in one publish, but you should be able to address some of the major issues. Then you can come back to JTL.
-Takanudo
its a twichy game. not a MMORPG. not as many bugs to work out. i would think.
Darklord2121
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:02 pm
#318
Thunderheart wrote:
I would start with "With all due respect", but you used it =P, soin short and with respect, this isn't "just an expansion".
This is Space. Space is something that everyone wanted at launch and Space is needed to create the Star Wars experience.
So does that mean it will be FREE?...
Why don't you just say "Look jagoffs, we'll do whatever the hell we wanna do and you'll like it! Now give usthe freakin' money and shut up!"
I would have way more respect for that.
NoxDenosis
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:02 pm
#319
What about JTL Beta, when I reg is it gonna identify that Ive been here since launch and ive been in beta 3? Id like to know if iam gonna get a good shot at JTL Beta before I waste my time
Jedi_Titus
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:02 pm
#320
This is Star Wars Galaxies: An Empire Divided not Star Wars: Jedi Knight Online. Jedi is not "a big part of the Star Wars experience." They are just one of many profession in this game, nothing more. I'm always amazed at the poor prioritiesthat have been set. The combat balance should never ever has taken a back seat to anything. It touches every facet of this game and every player. Also, while I appreciate that the development team is in a tight spot right now, I do not pay 15 dollars a month for JTL.
DMJedi
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:03 pm
#321
Thunderheart it's sad that you went from being so adament about this game to being blinded by the dollar signs and the title, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Message Edited by DMJedi on 07-15-2004 05:04 PM
Malicious1
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:05 pm
#322
i agree i wont wait at all they have said they dont have the resources ,all 3 accounts cancelled this week for sure.
soe has little to no integrity or reputation to lose from me,i already thought the game was doomed because the lies deceipt that have been perpetraited against this community on a regular basis.
someone lay a wreath at the devs door as they may want to find alternate employment
EvilAlgorithm
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:05 pm
#323
Jedi_Titus wrote:
This is Star Wars Galaxies: An Empire Divided not Star Wars: Jedi Knight Online. Jedi is not "a big part of the Star Wars experience." They are just one of many profession in this game, nothing more. I'm always amazed at the poor prioritiesthat have been set. The combat balance should never ever has taken a back seat to anything. It touches every facet of this game and every player. Also, while I appreciate that the development team is in a tight spot right now, I do not pay 15 dollars a month for JTL.
That has to be the biggest problem there, crafter or combatant, we all pay 15 or more a month. No one at this time should be paying for JTL.
Janson
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:05 pm
#324
Another important thing to understand is that this is hard on the Dev's as well. This is their love and their baby if you will. It sucks for them...bad. Let's work with them and get out of this on a good note for them, the game and us.
Lotussutol
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:05 pm
#325
Thunderheart wrote:
Great Expectations
To offset this very big announcement that will affect all of you, I will be immediately working with the correspondents and the community to develop a list of pre-combat balance fixes to get combat into a more enjoyable state. This will encompass many items planned for the Combat Balance, and will happen in a steady stream between now and JTL. The Combat Medic and Bounty Hunter changes that are coming in Publish 9.1 are the first of these efforts.
Between now and JTL is where I come in. Right out of the gate, I’ll be working with the community to develop plans for the Combat Balance and post them on the site; we’ll do a few features and I will continue to post updates. Later we will do the same for the GCW, the Squad Leader Revamp and all of the community issues on the table. In this, we can marry community expectations and development goals in a way that has never been done before with online games.
OR
Gary Gattis's State of the Game Letter:
We are cranking on the Combat Balance, and we think development on it will span 2 more publishes. This is an extremely sweeping and in-depth overhaul that will include the HAM revamp, speed formulas, weapon balances, weapon certifications, weapon stats, profession roles and balances, specials, armor balances, DoT balances, and buff balances. Obviously we want to get this right, so we are taking the time to do so.
Why should we believe ANYTHING a DEV ever says again....I am tired of being lied too.
Here is the URL to Gary's post...
http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/team_comments.jsp?id=61953&page=Team%20Comments