Development Cycle Archive

Stupid fat fingers:


Let's see. This patch has no combat fixes. No Group TEF fixes. No fixes for GCW issues(uh Base issues anyone). And now you come here and tell us the one thing people were excited about, is not possible, or was a lie all along.

But we do get new hats for Chefs, Paint Cans for our speeders, and the Jedis (THE SMALLEST CLASS IN THE GAME) get fixes to their profession.

Let me lay it out for you. This game cannot survive on Entertainer and Craftsman classes alone. If you lose your combat class players you will lose your game.

Throw the combat classes a bone, and remove all decay when Insured until you can figure this out. Oh and grow some stones. Do not come out here and drop something like this, post a couple of half ass rebutals, and then call it a day.

I'm curious. What was it that took this patch so long to be developed? There isn't that much in it. It's pretty much a huge disappointement. Some feedback is way over due guys. Suck up to your screw ups and start communicating like you were so eager to do ealier last month. With each post I read on this thread I become even more disappointed and ANGRY with you guys...

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Thunderheart wrote:

*hangs head*

Nope. It really was wishful thinking...

They removed the need to insure after each death. The 1% decay is tougher to do technically, though I wont give up.

The biggest obstacle to that is if nothing decays then Tailors and Weaponsmiths don't get repeat business...and we need to love them too.

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Bamboozle wrote:

"The single most important thing to remember when creating a game is that it must be FUN. When someone sits down to play your MMO, they are doing so to be entertained. An MMO should not feel like a job or obligation. It's very important not to fall into that trap of trying to manipulate your community, as if you're trying to run an ant farm. As a designer, it's your responsibility to create a world that's exciting, challenging, and FUN. It's not your job to play god over someone's play experience."

-Jeff Kaplan, Assistant designer on World of Warcraft

Basically sums up where the SWG devs went wrong. I don't think I've ever been this upset with SOE before.

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I agree. This game is becoming more of a hassle and the time spent more of an annoyance as of late. I used to defend you guys against rants. Why I don't know...

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Krayvex wrote:
then how can it tell whether or not to drop the insurance on an item?

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Um, answer please? /boggle (How this obious tidbit escapes you escapes me)

And Kurt, it's Armorsmiths.

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Thunderheart wrote:

Maybe it was wishful thinking on my part, but I made a mistake in the last paragraph of the Friday Feature.

It currently reads:

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The Little Things: The little things matter as much as the big things. There were many sound upgrades, improvements to the graphic user-interface and even a few minor activities for players to find. Many POI's and places where NPC's interact with each other (or NPC theaters). One of the "biggest little" things with this publish will be the removal of "insured decay" from the death penalty. Instead of having a 1% decay for items, players will have no decay as long as they have insurance.

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It is being changed to:

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The Little Things: The little things matter as much as the big things. There were many sound upgrades, improvements to the graphic user-interface and even a few minor activities for players to find. Many POI's and places where NPC's interact with each other (or NPC theaters). One of the "biggest little" things with this publish will be the removal of "insurance" from the death penalty in Player versus Player combat.Players will no longer have to insure their items after each death in PVP.

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The reason is because there is no way to tell the difference between a "PvP Death" and a "PvE Death".I will continue to try and get the development team to remove the 1% decay with insurance. (Any good ideas from you folks for an alternative might help).

I sincerely apologize.

Garva is always looking out for you guys and mentioned that it was still a little confusing.

He rephrased it and it sounds better like this...

Ok so this is what you mean...

There will still be a 1% decay penalty in pvp death but you will not have to re-insure after that death.

This is correct and clearer I hope.

Message Edited by Thunderheart on 02-03-2004 07:27 PM

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We have constantly posted against death decay in favor of use decay since before anyone else heard of the whole decay-as-death-penalty idea. They didn't listen to us.We have argued consistantly and passionately in every decay thread we've found that we want slow use based decay instead. They never listen to us. I don't know if there's much else we as a community can do.

I'm actually just tired of the whole debate, since the devs will do what they want to regardless of what we say.

But the idea that this decay is meant to help tailors is a total joke. Clothes are still completely functional at 0/0 condition.

Seems TH tailors don't like your *loving* solution...

PvP is no longer viable if this goes through. Make us pay alot of money to insure and avoid all Decay... then you kill two birds with one stone. we are happy with PvP for once, and you have a nice money sink to get rid of all the duped credits.

Thunderheart, THIS SUCKS! You devs have proved how dumb you guys are....