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Red read what he is saying.

The manual says when we open ourselves to PvP by incurring a TEF by purposly attacking a NPC.

Not when a game mechanic opens us up to PvP without our intent.

Hey Nazmo, being with a group does not guarnatee you something won't mind incap you now does it? Or DB you when it does happen? Does it? Please tell me that is 100% guaranteed, because it's not. I'd like a way to make me live a little longer for a winning outcome, if I still die, oh well, I die then.

silver anytime you are in as acovert rebel you are open to pvp man , thats simple , thats why there are covert scanners , and other crap in the game , being in the GCW is PvP , sorry but thats just the way it is you 2 are fighting a losing war , you know you have the evidence right there and still refuse to accept the facts ,

but its ok pwy man good job defending your point i love you man lol

now i have to get going cause my cell phone is being ringing all this time from a chick i was suposed to meet 30 minutes ago lol

see you all later when i come back ill see what kind of arguments you guys put up

RedVenom, whatever, a Covert Scanner is a physical object that you can tab over and select as a target. You can see it, it's not some invisble object that pops up on you when you are doing missions. It's not some droid that will appear behind you while you are fighting something and then scan you for contraband and then gives you a TEF. It's a stationary object that you can see and avoid. I can't avoid soemthing that comes up behind me that gives me a TEF.

The game is based off of Star Wars, not Smuggler Wars. I want Smugglers to have new content too, but forcing the game to change away from Star Warsjust for you is very selfish. Stromtroopers would *NOT* Scan Vader, Veers, or anyone of such a high rank cause they would be SHOT!

As far the Rebels getting overt, thats great! makes *me* want to play a Rebel now for once cause now I have a reason to avoid Stromtroopers rather than slaping them in the face. I dont see why any Rebel would be angry over this, its great content for you. Unless your a PvP guy who wants all the power then yeah, I can see why your upset, so I give you a big Boo Hoo. As for the Role Playing, Star Wars Rebel Fans out there, I think you would be excited to learn the Empire is finally joining SWG.

BTW, for the Non-PvP players who joined a side and are ticked off about this, ask yourself, why you joined a side, if your not PvP, then it must be for RP, if its for RP then your a Star Wars fan who should like this change. But if your not an RPer, then why the heck did you join a side? Just for the heck of it?

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PwyllTwiceborn wrote:

Let me restate ThunderHeart again too while you stew over how to reply to me.

Remember that one of the main philosophies of this game is if you do not want to play PvP, you do not have to. - ThunderHeart

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you're making assumptions though. You're assuming that he meant: "you (can be a covert rebel, and) if you do not want to play PvP, you do not have to."

Perhaps he meant: you can be a neutral chef and if you do not want to play PvP, you do not have to." You can't gerrymander this game, nor can you take a very general statement about gameplay and apply it to your own specific situation. There are plenty of ways a person can play in this game, interact with others, fight others, PvE and still not be a faction member. Please don't use TH's singular statement to validate your own when there's no way of proving his intention was to give rebels/imperials the right to do whatever they wanted without incurring possible risks.

Can TH please comment on this, I'd like to know how to avoid getting a TEF in the wilderness so I can choose not to participate in PvP on planets with roaming Overt Imperials. Or are you retracting your statement about forced PvP involvement?

Then Nazmo, why are you assuming he said what you wrote?

PwyllTwiceBorn, I should probably say at this point, that I really do hope you enjoy the game. It's a great game. We've got devs that listen. We've got an incredible playerbase. I just disagree with some of what you're saying, not all of it.

Then we can agree to disagree. I am only stating what's in the manual and what TH said, that's all, I am not adding my own Ideas to anything nor my own words.

No Forced PvP, you can PvP when you choose, and that is even when you are factioned. Both those statments are both written in Chapter 16 of the manual under the Galactic Civil War. Granted there is no Neutral Chapter discussed anywhere. But I don't add words to the manual.

If your out in the wilderness killing pickets as a covert rebel .. your chances of being attacked by an aggresive creature are EXTREAMLY higher then you getting scanned in the wilderness.

besides that standing around as a troop of ST's walks your way and starts to scan you is not a smart thing to do.. best idea would be to hop on that bike and let that troop pass.. unless of course you want some yummy faction =)

All I am saying is that a Wilderness scan will force you into PvP at certain given conditions, that's all. I'd like to see this either very infrequest, less than 1% happening or taken out. That's all I am saying.

The scan is done by a droid that comes wandering your way. Not a group of Stormtroopers walking around. Then you get the 10 ST drop.