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Thread: On Mandalorian Armor
Bleylock wrote:
Obsidian you are SUCH a hypocrit. You BHs whine ALL the time about how powerful you should be because of how hard it is to become a master, but when confronted with the SAME argument about Jedi you switch arguments. Whether Jedi are rare or not is beside the point. Jedi should be harder to beat than anyone else because they take more work than any other class to master. The holo-grinding and removal of permadeath are not the fault of the players but of SOE who have made a system even they do not like. Blaming the Jedi is simply illogical.
Bounty Hunters=some of the loudest whiners in the game so don't start complaining about all the whining others are doing.
GraySeven wrote:
I may be a lone voice in the dark, but I want to ask the Dev team NOT to allow Mandalorian armor to be a player accessable item.
After all the flames subside, here is the reason why: At this time there is one and only one person in the SW universe that has and uses this armor, a major character named Boba Fett. If this item becomes available for PC's, it will demolish a major "feel" of the game, because we all know that every wannabe Boba Fett will be wearing this armor. Even though Boba Fett was only a good BH in the EU (I mean, really, he got beat by a blind man and did next to nothing in ESB), almost every BH PC is going to be sporting a set of this armor.
Actually, that is a point of view, it is not fact fact that only one person used this armour.
True, the armour was not seen in the movie, or any of the major characters in the books.
But, it is written that Clone trooper armour was based on Jango fets style due to is freedom of movement.
The rocket backpack was replaced with a climate controling backpack (or left there in the case of some other trooper outfits).
The armour was enhanced, and became heavier.
In all respects trooper armour was seen as an improvement over Jango Fetts suit.
Beyond that, Storm trooper was better over the Clone Trooper armour.
Now I've read a special material was used in the construction of the armour as well, good, that makes the armour distinct against ONE form of weapon. NOT against others, this was because the trooper armour was an improvement over Jango's. And if it was better, then no doubt more people would naturally acquire the materials and build it.
Boba I believe only ever imaged that he hadn't found another suite, how hard he'd looked and where he'd looked wasn't mentioned.
So, no doubt Mando armour will be lightly encumbered, as it was seen as a lighter form of armour when constructing the clone trooper armour.
It may, seeing from comments here, be extremely effective against lightsabres, hopefully it will not be the highest form of kinetic armour out there, otherwise we will no doubt see it used frequantly.
When being blasted, you are better off with Storm trooper armour, which currently is pathetic compared to composite.
And I don't think it matters too much about availability. Any armoursmith could mimic the armour in this timeline, if the armour was better, no doubt previously it would've had that trait moved into the Clone trooper armour the the upgraded storm trooper armour. If that was based on resources, fine, but its a big universe, and there are many, many, many stories and travellers.
Overall, no restrictions on who can wear it (and I'm a BH, not ALL are wanting it just for them).
Don't make it uber armour, and you'll find people probably will NOT wear it except for a purpose. Overall it won't be uber armour.
Lets have fun getting the armour in some form of theme. It would be a great reward.
Lennie_Carlson wrote:
For those of you that say only BH should get mado armor, you are wrong. The mandalorians were not Bounty Hunters, they were mercenaries, which can be equated to BH's but not always. The only defined BH's that wear this armor are Mandalorians that went on their own when the army disbanded. That would include, Boba, Jango, and two others, one from the SW Bounty Hunter game, and another from the Bobacomics, but i cannot recall their names atm. So 4 hunters out of an entire universe, that does not give BH the grounds to be the only group to wear this stuff.
Dude, do you have ANY idea what you are talking about? Because from here it appears as if my door knob knows more about Star Wars than you do.
Take Mandalorian Armor and Jedi out of the game and this game will almost be working properly.
Since they wont ever take Jedi out due to the 30 year olds living with mom still or 12 year olds with too much time, Mandalorian armor will be in this game. It will be Master Bounty Hunter and Master Commando only. It will be pretty good.
The Jedi will cry it will get nerfed, everyone will leave the game until only Jedi are left to fight amongst themselves.
Holocrons have proven to be the equivelant of dropping a Nuclear Bomb on this game. Powergamers that chose to Hologrind ruined this game. And as if it wasnt enough that the ever growing Jedi population is made of whining powergamers, they are the biggest exploiters in the game. If it isn't Slicing (and Double Slicing) their lightsabers, SItting in the middle of water, AFK macro Hunting from Rooftops, these guys are jsut scum bags.
I don't need to be more powerful then everyone. Teras Kasi are powerful, and I believe they should be powerful (although it should probably have more prerequisites). I don't need to be more powerful then everyone in the game. Jedi are the one stuck in this syndrome because they have spent their lives looking at posters of Luke Skywalker's big man Saber. Jedi isn't god mode, and you couldnt take the heat of permadeath, so if you have no permadeath then you DONT deserve to be more powerful then everyone.
I could care less how many points you spend, making Jedi an unbalanced class just means that inevitably everyone who isnt a Jedi is phased out of the game because they cant compete. What exactly are you supposed to do with al lthis uber power anyway? Killing high end mobs cant be it since you can do that with any elite profession. You want it for PvP. You want it so you have god mode every time you face another player. And you exploited every step of the way, and trashed the game through a faulty Hologrinding system that YOU chose to participate in.
Mando armor Master BH and Commandos only. Thank you.
Do wookiees get a version of this?
Or, for that matter, how about some kind of compensation for wooks doing the various theme parks and dungeons aside from stuff that we can't use/wear, that is comarable to the awesome loot that everyone else can acquire?
raz1337 wrote:If this information holds true, this would lead us to believe that a schematic created by the Death Watch is definitely feasible, and the Mandalorian Armor is not as rare as some people make it out to be.
If this has been mentioned, I apologize but it's too late for me to read through the entire thread. Also, I'm not here to flame, just inform.
Apparently you haven't read "Tales of the Bounty Hunters". By the end of Return of the Jedi, there were only a bare handfull of Mandalorian Combat Armor suits known to exist. In the Galaxy at large, they were *very* highly prized. After Boba Fett's escape from the Sarlacc(and a lenghty recovery period), he hunted down the *only* other Bounty Hunter to wear the famed and prized set of armor, Jodo Kast. That's right, Hunted. In the words of the Immortals, "There can be only one". I don't remember all the specifics of how many others were known to exist, if that was even added in, but Fett's only real option was releving Kast's affinity for breathing. I think Kast was also parading around as Fett, but it's been far too long since that read.
Sure, the books aren't Cannon, but they still have to pass LucasFilms approval. Mandalorian Combat Armor is *rare*. Very rare. It needs to be kept that way. It needs to be wearable only to a select few. It needs to be a loot item and ultra hard to get. I agree with the instance dungeon idea. I hate campers and the practice needs to be addressed. I agree what MBH's should be one of the *select few* that are somehow qualified to wear it. For all those that don't want to invest the skill points in becoming a Master Bounty Hunter, don't whine if you don't get access. I remember reading about the BH profession after the game was announced. We are supposed to be feared throughout the Galaxy. Just about the most elite profession for the investment. We've been reduced to a joke. We are Mercenaries: We take credits to do a job. Killing is our business. And business sucks. We're limited to NPC's that can be taken out with relative ease or the bugged/exploited Jedi missions. We're nearly usless in the GCW, or PvP for "entertainment". The upcoming combat re-balance needs to make us feared once again. The Dev's need to make it such that Mandalorian Combat Armor isn't available for use by everyone and their TKA/insert-other-profession-here brother/sister.
It's supposed to be rare, get used to it
Master Commando - Teras Kasi Master
Naboo, Kettemoor
Master Commando - Teras Kasi Master
Naboo, Kettemoor
All these points in mind would make this armor wicked, but it can't be too easy to earn. Maybe a few massive creatures to beat that drop rare loots required like krayt dragonz
llaunay wrote:NO , that is a silly question, Mandalorians are Humanoids (any speicies that branches form the human G-Nome) Like the Imperials only Humanoids.OOOK now for my viewpoint...Mandalorian Armor, made form some of the strongest aloys in the Galaxie. Ill now give u some FACTS:FACT 1) Mandalorian Armor - Is wearable by all Humanoid (Head,Torso, 2 Arms, 2 Legs, Human DNA) persons.There for this armor should be wearable by all Speicies, exeps Wookie due to their size and the Fact Wookies are seen as slaves not as fighters but as slaves.FACT 2) Mandalorian Armor - Is worn by Bounty Hunters, Scavengers, Smugglers and All Members of the Mandalorian Clan.There for should me able to be worn by all Profesions not just that of Bounty Hunter.FACT 3)Jango Fett and Boba Fett were just 2 of many Mandalorian Hunters.There for there should not be a limit to say 100suits of armor per server, allthow they should be a rare item I would suggest a drop and/or rare scematic.FACT 4) Mandalorian Armor comes in many Colours.There for there should be some customisation prosses, with a Main and Trim Colour.And just for General Knowlage :Jedi shouldnot be able to wear ANY armor, they need the maximum range of movement and unblocked sences. I was greatly suprised that they were able to wear everything from Bone to Composit but i would find it even more suprising if they could wear Mandalorian...And for arguments sake YES some jedi have forn the HELMET and the HELMET only... althow that is hardly enough to allow them to wear a full suit in-game...Besides Jedi in Jedi Wear soo soo dam cool!This is my view... Thank You For Your Time...Syro Tantor
Master Commando - Teras Kasi Master
Naboo, Kettemoor
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