Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Live Issues Update Sept 3
CyberData4
Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:13 pm
#261
First off, the current method of obtaining Jedi is not hard. Let's get that straight right now. It's boring, tedious and very, very time consuming and completely caters to the power gamer. The devs stated that they didn't want to cater to the power gamer but that's exactly what they've been doing.
I've played this game just about every day since launch. I've done just about everything I care to do. I've fought strange creatures, roleplayed, attended weddings, spied, get a vehicle, mount, themeparks...etc. I've help newbs out, and recruited for various guilds looking for recruits.
I love this game, I love its potential....but this current method of getting Jedi is disgusting. Continuity? Please, continuity went out the window when my vehicle appeared out of thin air. There is no continuity. If the game becomes KotoR online....so be it. Let the players choose the direction for this game either through their choosing to become a Jedi or not choosing.
All this is, is an endless grind. 900,000 weapons xp get changed to 30,000 force xp? That's pathetic. This was suppose to be quest based? Remember? Once again we've been lied too and I'm really getting sick of it.
I don't have 6+ hours a day to grind away xp. I just don't. I ahve to go to work, buy groceries, pay bills, do work around the house...etc. I simply can't sit at my computer at home for hours upon hour on end. Don't get me wrong, I play often, but not nearly the amount of time that's required to do all this "grinding."
Should getting jedi be a pain? I say no. Let the people that want to be a jedi be a jedi. Maybe they shouldn't be AS powerful as they are now, but this is disgusting.
The hologrind was nothign compared to this. This is what I get. I should have "hologrinded" butnoooooooooo. I wanted to enjoy the game first, Iw anted to do my thing first and get to being a jedi later. Serves me right for enjoying the game............
My point: The xp conversion rates need to be adjusted. 10:1 or 7:1 would be better for weapons conversion xp than30: 1.
Seshemw
Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:29 pm
#262
Tiggs wrote:Thank you everyone that has reported bugs with this version.Those of you waiting for the old man in town please go out to the wilderness (the old man isn't much for concrete jungles). For those of you that enjoy riding (speeder bikes) all over will need to take a break and get some excercise (walk) so the old man can catch up to you (he is old afterall).
I've walked to and from Exar kuun's temple from the northern outpost (7km?) twice, with no appearance. Friends have seen him doing shuttle-shuttle hops in player cities, so I tried that for a day. Still no dice.
29 profession badges the day of publish 10, I've gone through the new requirements to be 'glowing' and it's been considerable time, and still no visit. It's disheartening.
Earymi
Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:33 pm
#263
Tiggs wrote:
Thank you everyone that has reported bugs with this version.
Thanks for the thanks, and thanks for checking in. That said, I'd sure like to know when we can expect a real, tangible update on the issues with Pub. 10.
Thunderheart started to communicate in an unprecedently good way in this thread, and then all communication from any dev disappeared. Suddenly there were new test centers running to test hardware related to the JTL expansion, and NO further communication on the bugs introduced with this latest patch or any idea of when (or if) anything that is currently wrong with this game will be fixed.
In case the calendar has slipped by without anyone's attention -- September 7th (scheduled date to fix things like the text drop shadows issue) has long since come and gone, with not so much as an acknowledgment that the date had to be changed/revised/whatever for some reason.
It's extraordinarily frustrating when communication is promised and then not delivered on. And it's extraordinarily frustrating to see patch after patch introduce bug after new bug, with little or no acknowledgment of the problem or a believable time-frame for the solution. Even a "Hey -- I know we were communicating with you guys but the field behind our offices is on fire so we can't deliver on what we promised" post would be better than the deafening silence we're experiencing right now and have been experiencing since app. September 3rd.
If I ran my own business this way, I'd be out of business.
Otse
Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:46 pm
#264
Tiggs or WHOEVER. The Sith camp spawn is STILL broken for alot of us. The waypoint appears, when you walk up to it, it disappears. Shuttle out of town or off planet, and the WP goes back in the datapad. Go back to check, this one disappears too. It is an endless loop with no fix. I have tried deleting the waypoint in the hopes the 2 Sith would attack again, but no dice. PLEASE let us know if anything is being done with this, now or in the future? Thanks in advance.
Tpalese
Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:21 pm
#265
NEW BUG
During Sivarra's Quest if you talk with a droid and take the mission on heal an NPC and then talk to Sivarra and she says you fail you will not be able to redo the mission or any other mission, because people will say that you look busy.
Please fix this byadding some sort of reset
EvilNegotiator
Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:50 pm
#266
Jedi doesnt have to be hard to get even with the 20% better than other combat profs thing. It also doesnt mean its 100% win, there is still an element of skill, fair enough if your fighting a carbineer or any of the other broken combat profs your garanteed to win. The thing with it is, is everyone can get this thing that is 20% better. There are down sides and more downsides need to be implemented. One of the downsides is going on BH term but on some servers it isnt enough and the jedi just have a massive load of groupies and you basicly cant touch them. Jedi can basicly go around acting like there vader or the emperor which in this time frame is 100% wrong. If this was like real star wars and you got a dark jedi getting to that postition, well frankly he wouldnt get to that position, vader would have slaughtered him well before then. Jedi is basicly like getting top level or the top point in the game for any other MMOGs but there making it very hard for alot of people to get, you can only really get it if your full out combat, hardcore and know where to hunt and how to hunt. Some people can get XP fast, others cant. does this mean that the others should get screwed.
One thing is Jedi and BH should really be an equal match, stat wise and the battle should be based upon skill. When this is done though the pre-req for getting BH will probably be upped again to suit this.
Paweh
Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:04 pm
#267
Scoooter wrote:Tiggs,What about the quests for the senses linesXP can be converted from scout, smuggler, entertainer and a few othersHowever scouts, smugglers, and entertainers must master artisan or medic to do the quests to unlock.The point was we were not supposed to have to bork our templates and grind professions.We need these group enabled quests or some additional quests to allow for these differences.This is a big problem. I have already missed one phase of senses and next phase has the second line I want.
First things first, mastering artisan won't help you with Senses. It will help you with the Crafting line instead, though.
Secondly, I would understand the current senses medic requirement* if the Healing boxes were given for it. They aren't, Persuasion is being given out for this, or so I understand.
* It still doesn't make that much sense, since Healing ups Wound Healing for Dancer and Musician as well.
methatswho
Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:19 pm
#268
I cant find an appropriate place to post this, so here it is.
While fishing, I ran a macro (/ui action toolbarSlotxx) to use a shellfish harvester (something to do while waiting for the sith).
I went to destroy a fish "container" and inadvertantly destroyed the shellfish harvesting tool. It was in my back pack, but some how was selected for destruction as I was targeting the fish in my top level of inventory.
I then tried to use a second harvesting tool, but was unable to, because I was "all ready searching the area for shellfish".
Logging off for 10 min fixed the problem once, but it happened again, and logging off for a second time did not fix the problem.
Is there a simple solution to a problem like this ?
While fishing, I ran a macro (/ui action toolbarSlotxx) to use a shellfish harvester (something to do while waiting for the sith).
I went to destroy a fish "container" and inadvertantly destroyed the shellfish harvesting tool. It was in my back pack, but some how was selected for destruction as I was targeting the fish in my top level of inventory.
I then tried to use a second harvesting tool, but was unable to, because I was "all ready searching the area for shellfish".
Logging off for 10 min fixed the problem once, but it happened again, and logging off for a second time did not fix the problem.
Is there a simple solution to a problem like this ?
methatswho
Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:23 pm
#269
CyberData4 wrote:First off, the current method of obtaining Jedi is not hard. Let's get that straight right now. It's boring, tedious and very, very time consuming and completely caters to the power gamer. The devs stated that they didn't want to cater to the power gamer but that's exactly what they've been doing.I've played this game just about every day since launch. I've done just about everything I care to do. I've fought strange creatures, roleplayed, attended weddings, spied, get a vehicle, mount, themeparks...etc. I've help newbs out, and recruited for various guilds looking for recruits.I love this game, I love its potential....but this current method of getting Jedi is disgusting. Continuity? Please, continuity went out the window when my vehicle appeared out of thin air. There is no continuity. If the game becomes KotoR online....so be it. Let the players choose the direction for this game either through their choosing to become a Jedi or not choosing.All this is, is an endless grind. 900,000 weapons xp get changed to 30,000 force xp? That's pathetic. This was suppose to be quest based? Remember? Once again we've been lied too and I'm really getting sick of it.I don't have 6+ hours a day to grind away xp. I just don't. I ahve to go to work, buy groceries, pay bills, do work around the house...etc. I simply can't sit at my computer at home for hours upon hour on end. Don't get me wrong, I play often, but not nearly the amount of time that's required to do all this "grinding."Should getting jedi be a pain? I say no. Let the people that want to be a jedi be a jedi. Maybe they shouldn't be AS powerful as they are now, but this is disgusting.The hologrind was nothign compared to this. This is what I get. I should have "hologrinded" but noooooooooo. I wanted to enjoy the game first, Iw anted to do my thing first and get to being a jedi later. Serves me right for enjoying the game............My point: The xp conversion rates need to be adjusted. 10:1 or 7:1 would be better for weapons conversion xp than 30: 1.
I second these remarks
StevieBUKDroidEngineer
Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:58 pm
#270
i have just brought aloud of stuff off a vendor. My inventory says 55/60 my travel pack says 50/50 so I'm not FULL. I rode my bike for about 200meters, then the game decided to stop me saying i'm overloaded! NO I'M NOT, i have room for 5 more items, thats NOT overloaded. I've sacraficed about 2 items to see if it would help but it hasn't 
now i'm stuck, I can't move, I can't delete anything else or i'll lose money on the cost of buying the darn things. WHY can't I move?
now i'm stuck, I can't move, I can't delete anything else or i'll lose money on the cost of buying the darn things. WHY can't I move?I tried to trade with someone else to clear some room but it keeps saying their inventory is full even though theirs isn't.
Message Edited by StevieBUKDroidEngineer on 09-13-2004 09:58 PM
Bumuralas
Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:07 pm
#271
I hope the FS ranged speed Tree will be fixed. It hurts to work hard on +12, and you cannot use it 
.
Please fix it as soon as possible.
Regards
.Please fix it as soon as possible.
Regards
telexx
Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:00 am
#272
For real Devs...come on. We have been waiting on a response for our feedback that the jedi revamp is a failure and that it is still a grind. Quests should NOT be a 3 week wait either. Grinding is FAR from being fun. My last day with the game is November 1, 2004. It sucks that I have to cancel since there is no way to progress past master fencer/CH/brawler. I have enjoyed this game since last July, but after the three content story badges, there is nothing fun anymore. PLEASE fix these issues so we can actually PLAY a fun game.
Altair/Rigel/Per
Altair/Rigel/Per
PlayeroftheDay
Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:06 am
#273
telexx wrote:
For real Devs...come on. We have been waiting on a response for our feedback that the jedi revamp is a failure and that it is still a grind. Quests should NOT be a 3 week wait either. Grinding is FAR from being fun. My last day with the game is November 1, 2004. It sucks that I have to cancel since there is no way to progress past master fencer/CH/brawler. I have enjoyed this game since last July, but after the three content story badges, there is nothing fun anymore. PLEASE fix these issues so we can actually PLAY a fun game.
Altair/Rigel/Per
I disagree with your comments, becoming a Jedi should take time. I don't care how they do it, be it gating 3 week rotationor whatever. If they thwart would be Jedis who do not want to do the system because it takes too much time and grinding, GOOD!