Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Friday Feature Errata: PvP Insurance Yes, 1% decay, not gone.
I have to agree with many on this thread. What kind of braindead people you got working over there?
You add acharacter flag:
LastDeathByPvP - Yes/No
If you're slain by a player, you lose faction points and "LastDeathByPvP" is set to Yes. When you clone, the decay system checks "LastDeathByPvP" to see it should NOT issue 1% decay.
If you're slain by something else, "LastDeathByPvP" is set to No. When you clone, the decay system checks "LastDeathByPvP" to issue 1% decay.
Wow...hire me to work for SOE!
Thunderheart wrote:
That's simply not true. The fact that you lose faction points on a PvP death as opposed to a PvE death proves otherwise. Now if you said that the game does not know the difference if you CLONE from a PvP and PvE death, well that is another matter. But still its moot because the system is going to have to know the difference if its going to waive insurance costs from a PvP death.
The mechanic used to maintain insurance uses a different mechanic.
hahaha....the mechanic used to maintain the insurance usesa different mechanic...Thundergut...its not too late to run for public office. You have double-speak down to a science.
Thunderheart wrote:
The result is the same... with 1% decay. who gives a **edit** if GCW is gets overhauled. Most of us will just opt out of the GCW.
It doesn't make any sense to insure items to protect them, just to have them take damage anyway.
Getting killed by Npc Imperials is going to be come a way of life for many newer and less skilled Rebel players. THe already harsh system is going to hurt Rebels even more.
Non consentual PvP ie: scanning team TEFing a reb, and that poor guy (haha) getting oblitterated by everyone overt in the area (nearly all imps i should imagine after the publish) then suffering his decay, just cos he was trying to check his harvesters on another planet.
everything has already been said multiple times by other people how much of a negative effect this will actually put on pvp and the GCW theres not much to add other than soloutions for this.
Why not make factional armour cheaper to buy say 500fp a peice but make it free from decay? redo the stats on it make them more basic say 20% resists to everything, keep it as AR1 class.
Not only would it make PvP more visually interesting, large ammounts of stormtroopers Vs Rebel marines, but it would make it actually worth while owning a set.
Give imperial command uniforms 9 peices too and make the same as the armour stat wise, but again more interesting for the GCW.(and fix the hat)
Of course people/powergamers will still buy Uber composite and pvp in it but the are going to suffer the decay when using it.
The armour can still be used only when overt, and not abusing group TEF which also really needs to be addressed, but thats an entirely other debate.
Im sick of running arround but naked in PvP with maybe a buggy as hell sheild gen on, becasue i dont wann see the suit of armour, which probably took me 2 or 3 attempts to get encumberance slices on each part literally dissapear in the course of 2 days pvping.
And while im at it Fix buffs, they destroy PvP Having regen stats in the high 2000s or 3000s mean as a pistoleer i cant pysically damage the person fast enough (usually) to get them on the floor incapped. THe mind pool is the only target and only CM, TKM, RM and 2H, and BH are the only(?) classes that can attack it effectivley, giving them a HUGE advantage in all situations.
Take a page from other games like DAoC where there was no Decay from pvp just from usage, that was half of the fun of it (other than the huge waits between fights and the buff bots) You could simply just dive in and not worry about having to find more money to replace all your stuff.
This game is so lacking in PvE (holocron grinding?) that after a few weeks PvP is the only option for a large population of players. and most of them are running about in there bra and shorts with a Jawa ion Rifle or a Vibroknucler simply becasue other combat classes are Sh!t
man ive said enough, im going to bed 3am in England
Fix the game, make it fun and less work to play. Theres plenty of other mmorpgs out there cheaper and with more content than this one.
I really am just sick. For the first time, I honestly believe in my heart that the Devs/Desingers, DO NOT CARE one bit what their player base wants. This is so disgusting. I use to play AO (anarchy-online) and had quit to come here. Now that Shadowlands is out, I've gone back to take a look and you know what, they have done everything the players have asked for.
Here's one for you, when I logged in a new toon, I was greeted by an Actual Person to welcome me to the game and answer any questions I might have. Then they left reminding me that I could contact a real person at anytime. WOW - I had forgotten how cool that was. Oh, and their version of a GCW which is Omni vs Clan, is HUGE and so well layed out it's amazing. Food for thought.
Anyhoo.. I'm on a tangent. Back to, I'm furious, hurt and utterly disgusted by the way this community is brushed off while the Dev's chuckle at our horrors, and really don't care because they do not have to deal with us on a PERSONAL and active level.
Wan't solutions, I think Jester has givin you a ton and he is far more qualified than I am to do so. To see him not be answered and this to continue with such a HUGE part of the game being affected (GCW), is just plain disheartening.
MrBo666 wrote:
Lets see how many ways we can accuse Thunderheart of lying because we have no clue how this game was programmed. Get real people, I doubt Thunderheart would lie about something like this.
Thank you Thunderheart for all the hard work you've put forth in these past months to help this game and community grow. Despite a mistake of words I still trully respect everything you've done, and hope you dont let all of the ignorant people that visit these forums get to you.
I'd also like to add that I do believe that decay should be removed. With the inflation of prices on many of the servers its nearly impossible for a casual player who doesnt like to run missions all the time to make the money necessary to PVP effectively with this decay. On the Bloodfin server resource and equipment prices are insane, and it being the "unofficial" PVP server I've found it hard to make the money necessary to compete in a PVP enviroment.
Ah ah ah. But he did lie. He stated that PvP insured deaths would not suffer decay penalty. It's also in the patch notes. Someone lied over there...