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Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever

TheFoolOnTheHill
Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:10 am
#2380






Dixos wrote:

I think an important factor for the immediate future is rewarding players on the path to Jedi. Players on 20 to 30 profs should be close to Jedi in the new system.







Huh? You mean all those that have been patienly waiting a fix to thier profession since day 1 do not deserve anything? Jedi is such a small precentage (well growing by the hour as people cancel) why should people how have grinded 20-30 proferssion get anything thing over a master squad leader who has been waiting since month 1?


The game is broke on all levels SOE. I will believe SOE when I see it. everything to them is tenative save Jedi revamp and JTL. Even the corrospondent summit is tentative.




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TheFoolOnTheHill
Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:22 am
#2381






Xziac wrote:





Light_Brasner wrote:
Eh. Quitting a game so they will fix it is just...stupid. They aren't going to change their schedule. And if you care enough about the game to cancel your account in order to fix the game...then you're most likely going to come back when they do fix the game. so basically, there's no such thing as "Quitting so SOE will fix the game".






Hey pal I got news for you: people aren't quitting SWG hoping the devs will react and start fixing things. People quit SWG because they can't take it anymore. There's plenty of new good games coming out soon, so why stick to a game that has been in beta mode fro a year now ? Most of the people that left reccently won't look back because SOE did the worst thing they could have done: they let down their customers with false expectations and lies. This shows how much they care about player's request.


All these cancelled accounts aren't a warning to the devs; theyare a proof that they failed, and better do something good soon because the game lives some really dark hours...







You preach it brother....


Amen

Message Edited by TheFoolOnTheHill on 07-20-2004 07:22 AM



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brotherofthehunt
Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:22 am
#2382

Well going to hang my accounts that I don't even play anymore since patch 9 but going to keep my accounts or cancel based on dev's responce to this mess. Have to say I enjoyed this game better at luanch then I do now.



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TheFoolOnTheHill
Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:25 am
#2383

There was a patch this morninganyone know what that was about?



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Talonsin
Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:25 am
#2384








garvin wrote:

In light of TH's recently announcement of the CB being delayed again and more promises, I know a lot of you have responded back with "Yeah Sure, why should we believe anything TH or any other Dev has to say..."


Well...there has been something that has been privately discussed for some time now that I finally have permission to reveal it...There is going to be a Corresponent Summit...and best of all...it will be at SOE's Headquarters...


TH and the rest of SOE is going out of his way to showtheir determination at seeing us get the fixes we need for our Communities...So much so thattheyare flying us Correspondentsdown to Austin to discuss it face to face...and it won'twait untilafter JTL...it is tentatively scheduled for end of August...


The main point of this Summit will be to discuss, debate and refine the Combat Balance Master Plan...If all goes well, that means we'll be coming back with...dare I say it...specifics!!!! I will also make it a point to focus directly on all of those other issues that are important to us Commandos...


Personally I think this is a fantastic move on SOE's part...how many other online games out there would go to this degree to speak to it's consumer directly...I only wish I could take all my loyal Commandos with me, but I know you'll all be backing me up in spirit...


Remember, this is tentatively setfor theend of August...the date may change, but TH has said that IT WILL HAPPEN...Closer to that date I will work on refining the issues you all most want to me to drop directly on their desks...


By the end of the Summit, TH and the rest will understand why we say "Diehard Commandos Die Hard!!!"









If they have not listened to the correspondents by now and fixed what we asked for what will a summit do? This is crap! They told us back in December this was in development, TH said it himself, look below



***********************************************************************

TH

12/8/03

There is content in the works, GCW stuff, the combat revamp...

************************************************************************

TH 12/23/03

I know a bunch of this is in development, but it really is . The combat system is being rebalanced and going forward, its important to get your critical issues to klawlegna so we can act on it. The big bottleneck is communication and after the holidays, a lot of this will be ironed out and smoother.

Instead of "fixing this" and "tweaking" that and ending up with a wobbly 4 legged table because so many number are over-tweaked, we are just revamping the system, but that takes longer.

************************************************************************



We are way beyond a summit!!! We need you to stop lying to us and do something, no more meetings, no more crap, just fixed what we have been asking to be fixed for months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Xziac
Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:27 am
#2385






TheFoolOnTheHill wrote:

There was a patch this morninganyone know what that was about?






Probably stealth nerf... Anyway the devs won't post anything here because we scared the hell out of them with this post. Mouhahahahaha


BTW for those who haven't read JTL review on amazone.com,, here's the link

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B00024DW2W/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/002-6216573-0743215?%5Fencoding=UTF8&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER


Rated 1.5 stars lol !



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jopenack
Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:35 am
#2386

WOW this keeps growning and growing

posted once already just updating information cities are starting to empty out in my guild and player city at least 50% have said they are done with swg they are either finishing the month or waiting for warcraft in august, me ive got 2 accounts my mains up in sept il hang till then and Cancel I lost faith along long time ago about anyhting they do here lol you ever pull a ticket and been helped ya right its always sorry cant do that due to game dynamics lmao yea right !

this didnt surprise me at all and all it has become is a 15 dollar a month chatt room and to prove this what did they just upgrade more chatt channels lmao its the only thing keeping my guild loggin in is friendships but we are planning the exodus soon and in 1 quick swoop a city, guild ... shall disapear like atlantis into the sea, hmm maybe giving all my stuff to the newest guy i can find will help him be bored sooner and they'l leave quicker than usual. hope SOE can keep people subscribing because the loyal player base is disolving and most who subscribe now are just people who want a little distraction and will move on an quit because they dont care as much about the title starwars as we all did, flash in the pan, fly by nighters, can they keep swg alive we shall see.

Sad very sad to the TO THE MANAGEMENT TEAM OR INDIVIDUAL WHO MADE THIS DECISION TO SCREW US OVER AND LIE TO US AGAIN AND AGAIN

"i HOPE YOU HAVE BEEN SAVING YOUR MONEY BECAUSE UNEMPLOYMENT DOESN'T PAY AS MUCH AS SOE DOE'S" WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND DONT CRY WHEN SOE CANS YOUR #$% AND YOU CRY THAT THEY LIED TO YOU ABOUT A SECURE JOB !!




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Dodece
Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:35 am
#2387

The sick thing is that the game was more balanced at launch. Then it is now. Screw the jedi I curse at them in the game, and when I sell them crystals. I said listen here you little turd your only one thing to me money. I could care less what side your on I am a rebel you are the pretender,


JEDI make me sick. I love imperials more then jedi. Is this not something terribly wrong. This post has reached 2500 now my god TH get off your butt and come in here and say something.
SrinKnorei
Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:39 am
#2388

i was looking through this thread on the development archive page. i am shocked to see 64 pages of angry, pissed-off, let down, disgruntled, totally-put-off subscribers. and only a handful of positives posts. i think i can count those with my fingers.


and i agree with all those angry subscribers. i do. they have said everything i would have said. i am just as pissed off. i have never seen such an uproar before, and i hope SOE realizes what a monster they have unleashed. maybe they will listen to us now, but i dont know, and i rather doubt it, but man, seeing all those posts made me feel like a grandrevolt was coming.


i am tired of the bone-head decisions, the 'promotions' (and at this rate i wonder how many de-motions) of people that i dont really feel entirely deserved it. i'm not behind the scenes with the player corrospondents, i dont see what TH and others says, but from reports, it seems its all pretty useless and completely dis-regarded by thehigher ups.


lots of people want to cry conspiracy over TH sudden promotion and Q3PO moving onto a differnet project, aproject none of us are at all aware of in the slightest. could have said it was or was not related to SWG, maybe i missed that somewhere, but to me this is a sign of a serious problem within management and the higher ups trying to cover their asses.


will i cancel my account? no. because i have met wonderful people over this game and i enjoy interacting with them on a daily basis. for me right now, SWG is nothing more than a chatroom with a pretty terrain generator. fix the combat because that's what people want when they think star WARS, get the new missions out, fix smugglar, make them happy, give us entertainers some love, fix all this other stuff. do thorough testing on test center (after 9.1 eclipse is so frelled right now with combat bugs) and then we'll see if this is a chatroom with a terrain generator with kick ass combat and end story...


so much for great expectations. and i hated that book too.



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DeVinMay
Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:39 am
#2389

i like too know wth you been doing this whole time? why are u just now trying to get people to work on this issue, when months ago u made a commitment to us to fix this issue. ever patch, every major update you guyshurt combat more and more. that release date is not acceptable. you had better but in some overtime, get more people working on this issue, what ever it takes to fix it. this is unprofessional on your part, if i was your boss i would have fired you guys and hired people who can get the job done, and done the right way the first time.


If you dont make a move to start fixing combat, even if i small patches, soon, i am out and thats another 20 bucks u lost a month. i have been patient long enough, we all have. NOW IT'S TIME TO SPEAK UP!



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TheFoolOnTheHill
Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:40 am
#2390






garvin wrote:




.........

Remember, this is tentatively setfor theend of August...the date may change, but TH has said that IT WILL HAPPEN...Closer to that date I will work on refining the issues you all most want to me to drop directly on their desks...


By the end of the Summit, TH and the rest will understand why we say "Diehard Commandos Die Hard!!!"










If they have not listened to the correspondents by now and fixed what we asked for what will a summit do? This is crap! They told us back in December this was in development, TH said it himself, look below



***********************************************************************

TH

12/8/03

There is content in the works, GCW stuff, the combat revamp...

************************************************************************

TH 12/23/03

I know a bunch of this is in development, but it really is . The combat system is being rebalanced and going forward, its important to get your critical issues to klawlegna so we can act on it. The big bottleneck is communication and after the holidays, a lot of this will be ironed out and smoother.

Instead of "fixing this" and "tweaking" that and ending up with a wobbly 4 legged table because so many number are over-tweaked, we are just revamping the system, but that takes longer.

************************************************************************



We are way beyond a summit!!! We need you to stop lying to us and do something, no more meetings, no more crap, just fixed what we have been asking to be fixed for months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







The problem is not that there is or is not going to be a summit. The problem it that we were told that the CB patch would be roght after the Jedi revamp. And that a majority of the problems would be addressed.


Now this summit is TENTIVATLY SET FOR THE END OF AUGUST. Why should we believe this statment? Has anyone got a firm data? Has anyone got the tickets in hand? Most likely NO! I am truely expect this statement from TH.


"In order to do the summit right we need a full development team. So we are delaying the summit until after JTL so we can reassemble the developement team"


call me a cynic




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Darius2
Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:56 am
#2391

The devs (or whoever is in charge) was/is retarded to assume that we would be happy to continue to pay for and play a game that was broken now, with promises of it being fixed later.


Thats just ridiculous.


No one buys a car in hopes that it will run better tomorrow when it doesn't work today.


Someone else said it best, speak with your wallets, not your keyboards.



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FajitaPita
Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:59 am
#2392

I like the rest areeagerly awaiting a response form the dev's about the overwhelming majority of the communities dislikes about the schedule changes. But im sitting here thinking... what on earth could thay say that would change how I currently feel. Even if thay came out and said.. "you know what we were wrong. we are going to delay JTL and get this game fixed" i think I would still think its crap. Point is that SOE and the dev's reputation has already been damaged. All we have gotten is a years worth of empty promises and lies and delay after delay. Others have said it well. There are a ton of cool games comming out. Why continue to pay 15 a month to continue to beta test a game that is crap. That little circle under a dogs tails.... thats where you will find SWG and JTL....
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