Development Cycle Archive

Thread: Live Issues Publish 9: Secrets of the Force

Demrin
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:58 pm
#222

wow... never seen somebody hold onto that dumb an argument.
Cafa
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:04 pm
#223


NO Support = NO Trust = NO Game


Well last night I watched a couple of houses with over 100 days of maintenance on them disappear and the houses go poof. One of those houses had 14 million units of the best organics and water ever to hit the Tempest server and they are all gone now. That's a good 7 months of resource collection activity, all gone. Initially, I thought the player holding the houses may have deleted their character, since that was the only activity that made housing disappear almost instantly. But after some research and noticing that MANY of my houses were low on maintenance I see that the super maintenance eating bug is back.


On top of that I wasn't the only one. A good friend lost every "rare" item off his vendor and his house during this patch phase. In addition, I am on Teamspeak now with a guild member who has been spending the week getting his overall house maintenance on all of his characters houses to maximum so he could chill for a while. He's even been telling us the progress with each mission run to Dathomir. Now CS.Live.CSR_AmandaT is telling him that he never paid anything into the structures whatsoever and she sees nothing wrong. Oh, but can she stop looking at the structures since he obviously was wrong about that one. He's gonnaeat 700k of maintenance. Right after he mentioned this I went into a house I had put maintenance into an HOUR ago and it was 6411 credits required to repair.


So, who knows. Maybe when I log in tomorrow after I calm down there may be nothing left anywhere and we have to either quit the game or act like the majority of the playerbase and just get everthing from running missions from now on.


But, SOE, you have really really let me and this playerbase down with these problems. Honestly, I hope when you look in the mirror and think about all the people that support your work and I "assume" your dreams, I hope you get a real good happy feeling inside when you know how much you've gone out of your way to screw people over. I've spent 10 months supporting your product and company through payments and customer building. I have 7 character accounts in my family and I'm probably only going to keep the necessary onesalive to support others in game because I just can't put up with the lies from your "online support" team and the wanton neglect you have had for data integrity. You're either unprofessional in your technical understanding and implementation of data structures, ignorant or completely malicious to your customers. If nothing else, if you had raised resource stack limits to 1000K there would never had been a need for any other storage outside my personal characters. But, then when I think about that, you would have burned my house down as quick as the ones that I was maintaining maintenance on and using for storage.


Every player in this game should know and understand SOE does not value anything aboutthem whatsoever. There is no trust and absolutely no integrity with the data structures in this game. I don't even understand why they have the SONY title in their name. When I call SONY Electronics about a problem with anything the people are courteous and knowledgeable and go out of their way to help me. When I call SOE or submit a ticket or go in the chat room I always end up frustrated through the myriad of ways that the CSR community goes out of their way to not help me. The pinnacle, of course, if the moment they get to say the mantra, "it's a known issue but it is against our policy to replace anything". Ultimately I don't blame any of the CSR staff. They obviously know nothing about the game at heart and have been set up for failure by your managements inability to train them correctly.


Oh, and we really likedhis othercharacter with the AT-ST being warped to 0,0 right after the CSR checked it out because he was trying to deal with the maintenance problem. Was that a brand new *feature* or a CSR tantrum?


So here I sit on Teamspeak and watch my favorite crafting character on the other computer. He's probably done more than your developers ever imagined any character would in the architect world. And I was really starting to get into chef and trying to enjoy that part of the game. I'm talking to 8 people on Teamspeak that comprise another 23 accounts, so that's 30 accounts including mine. All of us are extremely disillusioned by losing all these resources that we ALL worked to gather. Heck, one of those guys with 3 accounts I was begging not to quit after your system destroyed his factories with the maintenance bug not 3 weeks ago. Now we just don't know. There's another11 people in our core group with a total of 30 accounts. That's 60 accounts in our core group. 60 x $15 =$900 a month. My guild has probably 130 members consisting of 50 real world people last time I checked.130 x $15 = $1950. That's not a bad amount of change that I've worked for over 10 months to bring together as a cohesive group for your company. Not to mention one of the largest crafters on this server was going to quit the game afterahouse full of the best stuffhe had was deleted by someone else and I talked him into staying and helped him get back on his feet. But, alas, none of this means anything to you. I'm sure as long and the Jedi players are happy, you're happy.


If you have any commentary or need to contact me send to Fivo or Cafa on Tempest. I'm pretty sure the few of you that read this won't find it here for long. I welcome any PMs on the matter.



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platinumzack
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:05 pm
#224





platinumzack wrote:


REMOVE WEAPON DELAY NOW !!!!!



PPL ARE QUITTING ON MY SERVER - (SHADOWFIRE)!!!



U CAN EAT A FOOD TO REDUCE DOT!!!-- WHY DIDNT U JUST INCREASE THE TIMER ON THIS FOOD? WILL HELP NERF CM AS WELL.


ALSO

* BAZZAR - RETURN BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS

* BH PAYOUT - FIX SOON!

* BH XP REDUCTION - WHY? THER IS ONLY SO MUCH XP A BH CAN GET!!! ( JUST STUPID, NOT IMO BUT FACT)

* ARMOR DELAY - COULD CARE LESS





So what are you trying to say? I hate it when people aren't clear in what theya re trying to communicate. Also here's a link to the NHL's Washington Capitals. You simply didn't have enough caps in your posts.


http://www.washingtoncaps.com/<--- THIS LINK SHOWS HOW RETARDED UR MIND SET IS


ALSO LET ME SEE IF I CAN COMMUNICATE A LITTLE CLEARER


THIS PUBLISH SUCKS !!


IS THAT BETTER.


BH 15k mission payout.... I can do 2 Mokk missions for 32k each in 8-10min with master rifles in a solo group, taking missions in a job improvement city!!! thats 64k in 8-10min sometimes faster depending on distance from terminals


Im not a BH but they deserve there 150k payouts at least 100k. Cmon they need Droids and pay for travel while i can just run missions on dant and have 1mill in a few hrs.


also I remember a dev, or some 1 with SOE/SWG saying that a jedi should fear a TKM and that TKM's where created to go head to head with a jedi......


**edit**!.....What are BH's?, Target practice?...


**edit** WHAT ARE TH/C3P0/JUST G ETC.. SMOKING!


QUIT LISTENING TO THE FEW MASTER WHINENERS THAT POST 2 U EVERY DAY AND LISTEN TO THE "BASE" LIKE MYSELF THAT PAY 15/3O BUCKS A MONTH.. WHEN PPL LIKE ME START POSTING U KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG. I VE DEFENDED SOE/SWG IN THE PAST BUT THIS IS UN-ACCEPTABLE.ive been playing since 8/03 fookers. and have 2 accts so kiss my arse.






Zackattack 12pts Master Droid Engineer / 11 pts Chef / 12 pts Artisan (deleting)
MASTAZACK Master Shipwright( to be Chef)/Merchant
PLATINUMZACH Master Doctor/TKM
** Jedi **

* Swoop Territory, Naboo (Merchant Lane 2)
Thunderheart
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:21 pm
#225


Some Live Update Updates from today:




1) Veteran Reward: Nobody received the Veteran Reward Picture that was to have been granted to characters who were more than 30 days old. These will be granted tomorrow (Wednesday). We apologize for the slight delay.



2) Vehicles/ Droids accessible from Toolbar: This was an erroneous message that should not have been in the update notes just yet. This has been removed for the time being, but it will be available in publish 10 or sooner.



3) Badges: Clarification: There is no separate tab on the Character Sheet. Character badges are now located on the "personal" tab of the character sheet in the middle box instead of the examine window.



4) Weapon Switching/Combat Cue: Update notes mention that switching weapons during combat goes through the combat command queue. This is not currently visible. We are investigating this now.



5) Junk Dealers and Loot Kits: Players can get the kits by visiting Junk Dealers that are located in Combat Guild Halls and request a “loot kit". Players can gain the loot kits by conversing with the Junk Dealer and selecting, "What sort of items do you have that you are looking to get rid of?" Once players decide which loot kit they would like, they may begin collecting the parts. Not all junk dealers are offering Loot Kits.



6) 0/0 Items: Items with condition 0 have red box around them, some are still usable with the condition 0. We are investigating this now.



7) Vendor/ Bazaar Resources Display: The name fields for resources on the bazaar no longer include the amount of the resource or the name. We are working on a fix and it will most likely be in a Thursday’s hotfix.



8) Personal Shield Generators: There are reports on the forums about inconsistencies. If you have information on how to reproduce this problem, please post it here in this thread.


9) Jedi - Multiple Death and XP: There are reports of confusion with Jedi experience loss on multiple deaths. If you have information on how to reproduce this problem, please post it here in this thread.


10) Twin Force CrystalsInformation: There was some confusion on Twin Force Crystals. Twin Force Crystalsare converted to power crystals, not color crystals. This is working as intended. Also, a Jedi must have the Initiate box before able to tune crystals.







Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Community Relations Manager
Bleemo
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:23 pm
#226

cant save WPs from a mail to datapad

server gorath

how to create the bug.. save attachment
Trentmare
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:26 pm
#227

Please remove the armour and weapon equip delays!

Absolutely the worst idea I have seen yet in any online game!

"Hey, someones using a lot of DOT's on people!.. I know, we'll fix that by ADDING horrendous delays to normal combat!"

Sounds pretty incredible doesn't it?!!

I'll make a suggestion.. in PVP do not allow anyone to be 'subject' to more than One (1) DOT effect at a time that reduces red, green, or blue!

Please, please, please, You must take a moment and look at this as a game breaking decision and remove it immediately!

I really really, don't want to see more throngs of players quitting! This is just horrid!

Thanks
RustyNail
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:27 pm
#228



Issue: Can use rare components since they don't have serials

Server: Lowca

Planet: Naboo


Location (x,y): on me


Your profession: Weaponsmith


I have some beserker rifle and RIS components that became unusable since no serial number was generated for them today unlike some of my other components that did have. It seems not everything got converted over and csr will not exchange for valid items which is very, very aggravating since they cost alot of time and money to get and now they are worthless...




Rustius Nailus - Lowca
eastmaster
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:29 pm
#229






Thunderheart wrote:


Some Live Update Updates from today:





6) 0/0 Items: Items with condition 0 have red box around them, some are still usable with the condition 0. We are investigating this now.











all Ubese shirts and bandoliers are highlighted red....so does this mean that when you fix red highlighted items being non equipable that we will automatically lose the use of items which YOU never granted condition i nthe first place?


this is of signifigance to me personally because i have a +13 carbinee speed shirt and a +6 carbine speed ubese bandolier, i spent well over 3million for these attachments...and i have no suffered enough decay on these items to lower them below 50% even(they sit in the bank generally, free of potential decay) will i lose these very valuable and expensive items because of an error on SOE's end?
SpawnLOD
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:32 pm
#230






Demrin wrote:





Tiragon wrote:

Ok,First off I'm sick of people posting THE SAME EXACT PROBLEM THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED LIKE 100 TIMES. Read the previous posts first THEN write yours.

Makes a Very Valid point kind of stupid to read the same thing over and over.


Second, the delay for putting on armor and changing weapons is actually a good and 'realistic' one. Nobody should be able to change ALL of your armor while you're in the middle of a punch or kick or shooting someone. For those of you who say it's stupid, you're just a bunch of morons.

Makes another very good point, stops all those guys with 12 Poison Dot weapons, from stacking 12 different mind poisons on someone.


Third, if a Jedi wants to wave his/her lightsaber, let them. If they aren't hurting you, then why do you care. (by the way, I'm no where near close to becoming a Jedi. I'm a master medic, and TKA 0/1/2/1 so I'm not defending them because I am one).

Exactly... sounds like Saber envy to me.


Fourth, Stop being petty, jealous, and annoying and just play the game. IT'S A GAME!!!! If you don't like it STOP PLAYING. There are a lot of online RPG's out there so play one of them.

Yes, yes there are, but many people have way to much time invested and get use to certain ways a game is played. BUT on the box and in the into there is a disclaimer that says "Game Experience May Change During Online Play". So if you dont like how the game has changed, Im sure the Devs arnt gonna turn back the clocks. MIght as well accept the changes that have happened to the Jedi and report real bugs.


If you have anything you want to say to me. I pretty much don't care since all of you take this game WAY to serious.
Yes... Yes we do...





for somebody with precisely one post to your name you are awfully mouthy. Your complaints could be responded to in the same way you have responded to us. "I fyou dont like the complaints, stop whining and dont read the forum concerning people who have ISUES WITH THE PUBLISH."


Calm down... some how what you just said seems to contradict your own argument. His issues are with the people that repeat them selves and whine, and how would he get past 1 post if he hasnt found somthing that has annoyed him enough to post?






Have a Fine Jedi Day





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xzula
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:33 pm
#231

on flurry no resouce quantitys are showing on the bazaar! this pub..Is really bad! Its like trying to fix NEW COKE!
BabyRancor
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:33 pm
#232


Couple questions TH:


Are the racetracks (as indicated by new badges) live now or are they to be included?


Tantel armour currently has resistance to stun and Lightsabre (we think). Is this as designed or will it be patched out?

Apparently this is a bug - only when on vendors or when first created. Logout for a while and when you come back the armour is vulnerable to LS again.

Message Edited by BabyRancor on 06-29-2004 04:42 PM



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A_nita
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:37 pm
#233

Items with no condition (Ubese belts, shirts, and bandoliers) are showing up red. This was logged into the TC bug thread but ignored.
wookgunner
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:37 pm
#234






Lagon_Flood wrote:


I accept the fact now that there are going to be hundreds of Jedi, kicking and screaming but I accept. But now I plead before you, make it so that the Jedi are actually a littel weary of being so publicyl noticed. I've already seen 10 jedi lightsabers out in the coronet starport. Since they can't be TEF'd now, how about some kind of trigger that would cause Stormtrooper commando's or even Vader to come out after them if say, so many people turn them in after sighting them.


With all these public Jedi, showing off their stuff in the Starports, it kind of detracts away from Luke's importance of the jedi, since "that boy is our last hope" (-ObiWan to Yoda) ..."no, there is another" (Yoda to Obi-wan, refering to Leia). Why doesnt Yoda say something like to Obi-Wan along the lines of "no, there are several hundred Jedi's yet".


As Grand Moff Tarkin says to Vader "their fire has gone out of the universe....you my friend are all that's left of thier religion".


I accept now that people want to be Jedi, as did I once. But i wanted to be a Jedi within the Star Wars trilogy, knowing that Vader would come to kill me, that I would have to hide and live in solitude, as Obi-wan and Yoda did.


Please, I beg you SOE, please try to conform to some kind of continuity with the movies. My passion for this game comes from the passion I have for the movies. Each update seems to push more and more away from the movies, and it leaves me very sad, knowing what this game could be still.




Well said. I couldn't have stated it better




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