Development Cycle Archive
Thread: The Path of the Jedi: Reckoning of Effort
Zilly
Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:55 pm
#2224
Milander - Could you or anyone else for that matter direct me to where the DEVS said there were more than 5 holos to grind. Can't seem to find that.
Also IF according to TH's original post a person with 1 or zero holo-profs left would get a immediate visit, while a person with 3 holo-profs left would receive 3 free unlocks. Why did the person who got 3 free unlocks get an immediate visit?
SlianSlitherspoon
Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:03 pm
#2225
You guys think this is overboard about the Oldman, Wait till you actully get into the village, I did 24 professions I got 3 branches unlocked, but still in order to open the branches inside of the branches you have to do these iggnorant quests like running in circles around the village 10 times to unlock 1 branch of 4 blocks, then you have to do another 10 laps around the village 1k away to each wp to open another branch..
Now you guys **edit** about hologrinders... HAHAHA Wait till you get to your grind to do 1 single skill box, you have to do 3 million regular exp in the branch catagory to fill that box green thats 23 visits to the village cause your capped at 80k to convert your regular exp to FS experiance if your a doctor 30:1 then you have to grind another box for twince that much, you have to fill 6 full branches of 4 box's to actully become an initiate to use a light saber.
Hate to tell you all this but the game is gone, I will predict about 85% of the community will be quitting if nothing is done about this BS,YOU WILL NEVER BE A JEDI UNDER THIS NEW SYSTEM.
Way I think would fix this..
1. Remove the regular skills combat, crafting, medical ect Cap off the experiance, people are not gonna spend all day just traveling to the village hour after hour.
2. Lower the conversion for Christ sakes.
3. Cant you think of anything fun for the unlock quests? I dont find going around in circles all day fun, it just makes you hate the game more.
Drunkenjedi420
Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:06 pm
#2226
Drunkenjedi420 wrote:
Wow guys why did you make the Holo grind system 8 proffesions. This whole time people unlocked with 4 and you guys changed it to 8? Didnt you ever feel to see that maybe everyone wants and deserves to be a jedi? This is discomforting to me greatly. Its a trust issue and a issue of raw fairness. Ill post more after I gather more information. At the time being I am not happy about the constant changes. Its rather unfair.
-Sazo
well they changed the system after pub 6....the real error in the devs thinking was the institution of holocrons in the first place....when the system was "master 5 professions to get jedi" and the method was still a secret, jedi were few and very far between.....however the devs said that people were not progressing towards jedi fast enough and instituted the holocrons....begin massive grinding and economic chaos.....once the secret was out everyone and their sister started grinding....enter devs " OH CRAP..they figured it out.....quick we have to do something or were gonna be swamped in jedi!!!!".....thus pub 6 happened and they instituted the higher silent levels...but they left holocrons in the game......so now they felt obliged to change the system to correct THEIR error....
"ApplaudstheSWG team"- Judging by the past ninety some posts, the "Fix" seems to have worked... Im so glad I got a girl and a life and stopped wanking off at my monitor trying to advance. I just play 1-2 hours tops a night and thats all I need - say hi to my friends and do a badge or two. Some nights Grind some monsters to have fun. No need for all this stupid stuff. Waiting, unlocking, Village, Old man, Guessing what badges I need to "Glow". At this point I do not think the Game will ever be the same.
-Sazo
Cyricy
Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:31 pm
#2227
I have got my visit today, after 3 hours I have got sith visit, and I wen into the village, did get the serguillo's patrol quest and managed to do without anybug or something (10/10) out of 10 (so all success). And the patrol quest is real fun, WOW I mean it, it is so fun and the text are involved with the whole idea is really cool (2 sith, 1 sith or 3 sith or raid party texts and other dialogues). I apoligize for my previous posts DEVs, ok I flamed but I have a point 
youSHOULD upgrade your servers... Anyway the game has now real content, not anymore beta or something. I hope, I really hope, remain quests would be such a fun and clear like the first stage. Because I was really impressed by the clearness and the content and the fun... Right after the old man visit; it is so clear really everything is in our journal, right it should be, well handled, well done. Congrats.
youSHOULD upgrade your servers... Anyway the game has now real content, not anymore beta or something. I hope, I really hope, remain quests would be such a fun and clear like the first stage. Because I was really impressed by the clearness and the content and the fun... Right after the old man visit; it is so clear really everything is in our journal, right it should be, well handled, well done. Congrats.PS: I was ready for the new system for weeks, I had every content badge, blabla. I never used a holocron before. Now their texts are sweet: hums briefly ....
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TKTerror
Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:35 pm
#2228
AAAAArrrrrrgggggg, the old man visited me, but i was in my guild hall and didn't find him in time so he rushed off, now what, am I screwed?
JadeChickadee
Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:55 pm
#2229
TKTerror wrote:
AAAAArrrrrrgggggg, the old man visited me, but i was in my guild hall and didn't find him in time so he rushed off, now what, am I screwed?
Not to worry, he shall return
Arcan
Thu Sep 02, 2004 6:23 pm
#2230
Just 2 questions I have to ask..
1. How has replacing Hologrind with Badgegrind made this any better?
Arcan
Thu Sep 02, 2004 6:27 pm
#2231
and 2
How does Theme parks rate as "Content" for Content Badges?
I can never see how going to a place, getting a mission, killing things, get badge can be classed as content. Repetitive cr^p yes, content no.
It does not matter which so called theme park you go to, same repetitive rubbish.
Content is Smugglers being able to Smuggle, not dungeons.
P__Day
Thu Sep 02, 2004 6:45 pm
#2232
Arcan wrote:
and 2
How does Theme parks rate as "Content" for Content Badges?
I can never see how going to a place, getting a mission, killing things, get badge can be classed as content. Repetitive cr^p yes, content no.
It does not matter which so called theme park you go to, same repetitive rubbish.
Content is Smugglers being able to Smuggle, not dungeons.
To be honest i dont seetheconttent is in : shuttle around, run around and wait for some old guy to show up, then wait some more for some sith to show up. IT has been 14 hours since i met the old man.
mikheal
Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:01 pm
#2233
this one is for all the non grinder **edit** talkers... just wait til u get to the village and find out how much xp u need for force conversion xp... lol.. and how much time it will take.. ur gonna wish u would grinded...
mikheal
Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:05 pm
#2234
ur question of badge grinding.. easy bro.. i did 31 profs without unlock.. im master tkm.. calc how long it will take me to do the last tree... 17.5 hours doing 900k xp and hour.. that includes the combat xp conversion as well... that won't happen all the time.. most of the time it won't... there is more grinding involved in this.. plus its location, quests, time of village change... im upset with the conversion numbers.. but for those who have to do 3-6 it will be death...!
DaiTengu
Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:18 pm
#2235
Quick impression.
*WAAAH! I WANT TO BE A JEDI NOW!!!*
*WAAH! I DID ALL THIS WORK AND I'M STILL NOT A JEDI!!*
*WAAH! I'M HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH OR TWO BEFORE I CAN GET INTO THE VILLAGE!! I WANT TO BE A JEDI YESTERDAY!*
If Every single one of you who were whining about this actually DID become Jedi, the servers would be overloaded with them, and the game would just be no fun. You want to be the uber-l33t jedi that can kill everyone and anything, but when there's 50 others on the same planet as you, and they've already killed everything .. you think it's going to be so uber-l33t then?
The Jedi are supposed to be HIDING ... Hunted at every corner by Bounty Hunters and Imperial troops (Doesn't matter if you're dark, or light).
If you ask me what needs to be fixed, it's the ungodly power that the Jedi wield compared to the average joe. Yeah they should be powerful, but they shouldn't be powerful enough to take on 20 PCs and live to tell the tale.
*WAAAH! I WANT TO BE A JEDI NOW!!!*
*WAAH! I DID ALL THIS WORK AND I'M STILL NOT A JEDI!!*
*WAAH! I'M HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH OR TWO BEFORE I CAN GET INTO THE VILLAGE!! I WANT TO BE A JEDI YESTERDAY!*
If Every single one of you who were whining about this actually DID become Jedi, the servers would be overloaded with them, and the game would just be no fun. You want to be the uber-l33t jedi that can kill everyone and anything, but when there's 50 others on the same planet as you, and they've already killed everything .. you think it's going to be so uber-l33t then?
The Jedi are supposed to be HIDING ... Hunted at every corner by Bounty Hunters and Imperial troops (Doesn't matter if you're dark, or light).
If you ask me what needs to be fixed, it's the ungodly power that the Jedi wield compared to the average joe. Yeah they should be powerful, but they shouldn't be powerful enough to take on 20 PCs and live to tell the tale.
Ulrick
Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:29 pm
#2236
Just to follow up here on all my posts WAAAY back at pages 65ish to 75ish (some of us have to go to work)
Came home today from work, logged in and hopped on a shuttle to an outlying player city. Old man was right there when I loaded in and I got the crystal. Now about 4 hrs. later, still waiting for Sith. No biggie - I'll log in tomorrow and see what happens.
Came home today from work, logged in and hopped on a shuttle to an outlying player city. Old man was right there when I loaded in and I got the crystal. Now about 4 hrs. later, still waiting for Sith. No biggie - I'll log in tomorrow and see what happens. TH has kept his word from the original post as far as I'm concerned and from what I read in many of the testimonals on here of people who were glowing when 10 went live. For those who have killed the sith, and are starting on the village, congrats.I suspect it will still be a very long road, as it should be.