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Thread: Publish 8.2 Feedback: Death Watch Bunker

Wolfmann31
Wed May 26, 2004 1:36 am
#209

To tell you the truth Thunderheart.


I'm not even planning to go to the bunker. Same as I'm not planning to go to the Corvette.


Why?


I prefer to play a star wars game Thunderheart. And I do this, by being a stormtrooper. I can't even look at these mobs without dying, no matter my template.

But..I'm also a commando....Why should I bother?


I wear the costliest armor in the game, with about the crappiest stats, so I can "be star wars"..And I dont have a chance at ANY of your new content. And there are alot of us.


On another server than Bria, I have a TKA/commando, who..finally broke down and joined the "Composite war"..But he does not bother for the corvette or DWB either. Why? Because he prefers to play with his best friends, and not a bunch of unknown people. And when you'r best friends are like you..Casual players with a nack for RP, and dancin or any other "non stacker proff".....This content is not for us.


It's like the Jedi thingimajingie...content not for the majority of players. Everything you create, end up making the gap between those YOU aimed the game for..the casuals, and the "ubers".


You are scaring the casuals out of the game. And as I know it..usually its the "ubers" that does not stick with a game, they always jump to the next big thing comming out, while the casual, dont burn thru content, and stays longer with a game, because they play the game, not game the game.



So, in ending Thunderheart and the rest of the devs.


Thumbs down from this casual gamer.



(its not like you would read this anyway, you devs have forgotten about the casual gamer. You are walking around in that pink wolrd of yours, thinking that "ID revamp" is a casual gamer thing....Well..it aint..Wake up!)




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neinnunb
Wed May 26, 2004 1:43 am
#210






LouDogg wrote:

I'm sure that no one of importance will read this, but im going to make this post anyways. I dont normally post, but wow, i just had to on this.


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Come on guys, this isn't even REMOTELY fun. All of my group, who was about 15 people, died. DEAD, gone, had to re-spawn.


It's just ridiculous. If your main concern was for no one to have the mandalorian armor, then CONGRATULATIONS!


If your main concern was for people to have fun, then i don't even know what to say. Please, can we make this thing somewhat enjoyable.






This post is a perfect example of how strongly people feel about the difficulty level on the latest dungeons.


Devs, is the point getting accross to you?




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SideWind3r
Wed May 26, 2004 1:49 am
#211

First of all, i'd like to congratulate you lot on making something non-soloable! Yay!


One really noticeable thing though.. Too laggy. Something has to be done to decrease the lag around there.


Something on difficulty.. Ok one SBD on its own isn't hard, just time consuming. In one room there are three SBD spawns and some Death Watch spawns. I think there should be a cap ofone SBD spawn per room. The fast spawn rate and the time it takes to take one of these down means that you will be sitting there forever! Lol. If you want to keep difficulty up then put in some more SBD in rooms where there are none.



Nithalon Retzar

~Master Swordsman~
Unique_Handle
Wed May 26, 2004 2:00 am
#212

The entire idea is stupid... fill a bunker up with SBD's that shouldn't even be there in the first place, make res / ham ultra high so no-one can kill them, and if you manage to actually kill them, put the spawnrates so they spawn straight away again.

I spend hours playing every day, done it for months, got a good template (master in two good combat professions).
I never use anything but 80%comp armour... and I have no chance in the world to get through this.. even if I teamed up with 10 commandos and 10 BH and 10 more people like myself who have good combat templates...

Please get done with the WoW beta so I can take my SWG copy and do something really bad to it!!

Seriously, if you want to make it hard to get the mando armour, fine, add 1000 SBDs at the very end before you get to the place where you have to craft the armour, but dont make it impossible for players who don't have 10+ mill in the bank account or the best stuff to even get in there...

Stupid addition, completly crap, zero fun... I want WoW!
dpdmj
Wed May 26, 2004 2:01 am
#213

I realize that you were striveing for high end content but its just stupid. When a group of ten power gamers with a perfect complment of professions get smoked where does that leave those of us that have less time to spend? I am not going to go int the 3/4 page rant that I had planned because people have said it all already. Ill just say that I cant wait for world of warcraft.


Mj


Whes
Wed May 26, 2004 2:04 am
#214

well now i finally arrived to the cave with my 256 ram and 1.8 celeron (lol), after my 1 minute freeze my radar was spammed, i tryed going in (unbuffed) the lagg was horrible and i died after 20 secs, yahoo



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MrMud
Wed May 26, 2004 2:13 am
#215

I played of a p4 4ghz with 2gig ram so for me the hardware lag wasnt so bad.

But with over 10 seconds delay on everything you did that place wasnt playable. I even got disconnected 3 times before i managed to leave the place, and i wasnt the only one. Our entire group left the place after 30 mins in disgust of the unplayability. We *might* be back in a week or so when it might just be playable.

It is fairly clear that the servers cannot handle the game content and something really needs to be done about that.



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Neige
Wed May 26, 2004 2:20 am
#216

My feedback on DWD:


I am a wookie : Madalorian armor doesnt interest me.


I am a Master ID : combat doesnt interest me.



I am a player, i'd like to be able to play. Due to MASSIVE lag, Kauri kept disconnecting me. I couldn't even finish a stat migration at the peak of the disturbance in the Force.


Now i am a pissed-off Wookie.





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_Paclya_
Wed May 26, 2004 2:21 am
#217

Good thing is that mandolorian armor will be rare.
Bad thing is that this dungeon is unplayable (or by a very rare amount of motivated powergamers).

What's the point to advertise your new content when you know that most of the player expected to enjoy it and will be pissed because the difficulty is insane ?



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JohnnyMiracle
Wed May 26, 2004 2:26 am
#218

My feedback....I could care even more less about the DWB as I did the Corvette. I mainly play this game solo or in small groups. I would rather see storyline content like the Deadeye stuff. Sorry I wasn't really playing much so I don't know what all that was about. I went around to do some of what I guess was older missions. Like at teh Massasi Temple on Yavin IV only to find the mission rewards were ridiculously low. Like a total of 75 faction points for 10 missions. I dunno, guess I am looking for more to do kinda things than more to kill stuff.



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Xyvyon
Wed May 26, 2004 2:40 am
#219

What a total waste of developer time .........


sry but this is realy bad work :/
Thesoldier
Wed May 26, 2004 2:43 am
#220

I didnt even go into the DWB, but over 15+ of my PA buddies did, and those who were on my TS server I heard nothing but constant crying about the SBD's in there.


With hearing about the difficulty and all the lag and the spawn problems, I decided to pass.

Even though im a Bounty hunter, the thought of looking like Bobba Fett doesnt appeal to me having to die over and over and losing condition and armor and weapons.


If I really wanted to die for a needless cause, Id rather go attack Bull Rancors on Dath with a stone knife while naked.

At least I would get some entertainment out of that.



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qui-lighter
Wed May 26, 2004 2:49 am
#221

I did the DW bunker 4 times and only got through 1/4th of the way once, that was only because I was running around with my group while getting argo'd to advance through.


The spawn rate is insane. Not everyone in SWG is umber gods, and this bunker just killed the casual player.


The DW bunker is way too hard, either limit the battle droids/super droids or put the spawns on a 15 min timer or something.


There is too much to do in the bunker to run quests, you got to go up and down all throughout the bunker, plus keep everyone alive, while being argo'd 99% of the time. The loots are freaking rare, and mando armor will because rarer than RIS armor, due to what you need in this bunker.


Yes I know mando is suppose to be rare, but plz, I thought Jedi was suppose to be rare also. Everyone dies in this bunker, I beleive the devs just wasted alot of time on this because people already are getting sick and refusing to even do the bunker fearing death and decay.


No one and I mean No one has even made mando yet, how do we even know it's makeable???? Why even try!!! Just getting bh armor is rarer than pearls, why should I risk making it and failing! Hell I can count 6 people out out of what 5000 on Kauri that even has a full suit of bh armor, that's worst odds than Jedi guardians!!!!



Fix this now.




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