Development Cycle Archive

Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever

Krayvex
Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:32 pm
#2159






Serenius wrote:

Well this certainly explains part of the bug-laden enterprise that is SWG (pulled from the careers section of the announcement forum).





Requirements:
- 3+ years C++ Experience



Somehow I doubt the smaller bolded part will go well with the larger bolded part.






There are other languages, and many of them OO enough to qualify. I haven't used C++ regularly in about 10 years, but I do most of my stuff using object based design. I seem to be able to jump back in whenever i need to.


If all their code is in C++ then they're right in wanting atleast 3 years. You probably don't need more than that thought if you've been using other object oriented languages. I'm sure college and 3 years of C++ on an accounting system isn't going to get you hired.







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Raiyne
Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:34 pm
#2160

Even though TH has averaged 12.806 post per day for over a year, I feel better knowing that he had a similar no post stretch as recent as 7/2/04 - 7/06/04 (Friday to Tuesday).


I really do have hope that heannd his co-workershave been in meetings all day, with shouts that could be heard from the hallways, "But the People DO NOT WANT this!!"



Raiyne
Cafa
Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:35 pm
#2161

Onehas to wonder when the little things are ever going to be fixed.


Storage sucks and you refuse to consolidate storage of parts/resources/crates.

SEA's do not work in the fashion that YOU published. -----> EVER

You still have not addressed about 99% of the BE creature problems in this game.

Maintenance clock still skews randomly.

There is ZERO data integrity as your CSR staff refuses to replace anything lost due to game bugs.

You have NO PUBLISHED customer service standards.

You refuse to PUBLISH customer service standards.

Youhave MAGICAL RINGS in a science fiction game as quest loot.

And my damn factory still has an error 7 since Sept 2003.


Now, back to GCW and JTL. I'm sure they'll never have bugs fixed either after their publish.



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Krayvex
Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:36 pm
#2162

Wait! I was wrong. This is SOE. Working on an accounting system probably would get you hired.


Oh and a bunch of transaction script objects isn't really object oriented design. I'd be very curious to see how they're doing it so far. You don't have to be good at OO design to write the code.



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blueoasis
Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:37 pm
#2163

Lydyann wrote:


SWG:

2,301 accounts lost and counting



Anyone out there want to take on the daunting task of keeping track of the true number of cancel posts out there as a result of the combat rebalance delay? It'd be great (or depressing) to have a single thread where we could get the latest count. I'd also be great for the devs to see. We could keep the count in one thread and the responses to this issue in this thread?



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DarthBrundleFLY
Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:49 pm
#2164

Pretty convenient that i get up this morning (I am in Australia) and it has taken me over 30min to log into the forums. Whats up with that? Are the dev team getting tired of seeing the truth and so have made it difficult to log in so people can have thier say.


And surprise, surprise....no response to any of this, hopefully that means they are in an emergency meeting...but hey what are the odds of that.


Fix the forums...the fact that many cannot or are having a very difficult time to log in only supports peoples views that you are actively hampering peoples attempts to voice thier opinions on the "state" of the game from a players perspective.



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Joth_Kyles
Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:50 pm
#2165

If you haven't been able to do the combat balance in 10 months, what makes you think you can do it in another 10 months if you double your staff? I, like the majority of players , am sorely disappointed in this game. It's a beautiful chat room, but I don't need beautiful chat rooms. What I do need is for the lying (started by Q-3PO to the carbineers) to end. TH, you said the combat balance would be comple before JtL was released. Now it sounds like you haven't even started working on it. You've (or a suit just like you) been gathering information from corespondants for 11 months, and still most of the game is broken. Specials don't work, I can't sit down ina chair without sliding, my speeder bike throws me 100 meters away, blah, blah, blah. I've cancelled one of my two accounts. (Shi'Loh Smith on Kauri Server). I will continue to pass my time with this game until the next "finest mmorpg ever" game comes out. I just hope that they deliver better than SOE. Additionally, I've written to John Smedley with my complaints about the customer service being delivered to the paying (or formerly paying) customers. Does this game have a lot of potential? Absolutley. All you have to do is replace the development team with someone credible and actually start keeping your word to your customers. Now go archive this.





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Serenius
Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:50 pm
#2166






Krayvex wrote:

There are other languages, and many of them OO enough to qualify. I haven't used C++ regularly in about 10 years, but I do most of my stuff using object based design. I seem to be able to jump back in whenever i need to.


If all their code is in C++ then they're right in wanting atleast 3 years. You probably don't need more than that thought if you've been using other object oriented languages. I'm sure college and 3 years of C++ on an accounting system isn't going to get you hired.



I'm just saying that I would want more than 3 years minimum experience for a SENIOR programmer.




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FajitaPita
Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:51 pm
#2167

Well something has to be going on behind the scenes I feel or SOE and the dev's are callin everyones bluff about canceling their accounts. ... If this was any other topic it would have been deleted, moved, locked.. ect.
Tavie_Bautat
Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:54 pm
#2168

This is perhaps the worst decision I've seen by the dev team yet. You have just alienated most of the playerbase by this move. Certainly there will be some who will stay regardless, but I've been noticing a waning interest both in the forums and ingame. This move will certainly amplify that sentiment. I've been here for one year, and even I'm starting to see more fun in playing UT2k4 than SWG lately. This decision might just pull the plug on SWG.



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CreoVex
Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:56 pm
#2169


Yeah the forums took me an 1 hour to log into today. Talk about bull**edit**.

BTW, if you aren't satisfied with your post getting heard here I suggest you email:

[email protected](this is the help section, and this GAME PROBLEM needs to be fixed)

or even [email protected](Email here to warn them to stop false advertisement of this product)


Still looking for developer comment on this.....


-NightRaven (ingame)


Message Edited by CreoVex on 07-19-2004 01:57 PM

Raiyne
Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:57 pm
#2170






FajitaPita wrote:

Well something has to be going on behind the scenes I feel or SOE and the dev's are callin everyones bluff about canceling their accounts. ... If this was any other topic it would have been deleted, moved, locked.. ect.




What I'm figuring...err hopin..



Raiyne
mmaughme
Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:58 pm
#2171

Almost 2:00 PM PDT, and I'm finally able to connect to the forums. But I'm still getting the "your request is being processed" message every time I try and do anything.


It's sad that after all this, the only Dev who has posted anything today is Pex.




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