Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Jedi Revamp Phase I
waaha
Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:34 am
#196
Thunderheart wrote:
prettysic wrote:
What happens to the holo grinders that haven't unlocked?
They get to play through the new quest system in Publish 10.
TH , has it become common practice for you and SOE tou LIE to the paying costumer?
If I recall right, and I do recall correctly, a friday feature awhile back by SOE claimed holo grinders to be compensated,
Drunkenjedi420
Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:59 am
#197
Waha Wrote:
"TH , has it become common practice for you and SOE tou LIE to the paying costumer?
If I recall right, and I do recall correctly, a friday feature awhile back by SOE claimed holo grinders to be compensated, "
ElectricNomad Wrote:
In any case, you're granting all Jedi Knights a mule account. I think that's a bad idea. It hurts interdependence in the game. What's your rationale for giving people extra slots, anyway? Why shouldn't they use a Jedi as their main character? They have 10 slots to play with and can play other characters on any server they like. And if the answer is "because I don't want to be a Jedi all the time," then just don't become a Jedi. I have never seen a good argument explaining why it's better to give people extra accounts which are commonly used for muling, buffing,and moneymaking - basically cutting out interdependence.
So all current Jedi are being awarded with a permanent extra mule account? That's whatI figured. See above. I just never thought this was a good approach, and I wish you'd force people to merge their characters. making SWG a single character server gamewas a great idea. It made people take on a role and live with its limitations. Grandfathering in all the hologrinders' extra characters will only ensure that they are less interdependent than everyone.
Keeper wrote
Thunderheart wrote:
prettysic wrote:
What happens to the holo grinders that haven't unlocked?
They get to play through the new quest system in Publish 10.
But we get a head start right? We arnt being fobbed off on this one, us that have done over 20 professions, we can full explainations on how we will get a head start.
Wow a lot of great questions. I think another developer chat should be in order. At least a 2 hour one this time.
-Sazo
DeanWeaponX
Sat Apr 17, 2004 8:45 am
#198
I have read hours of pages of this revamp and its so kool man thank god i delayed my jedi holo start till now man imagin a jedi acadamey light/dark on dant or yavin learning theways of the force its gona be awsome best patch SWG is ever gona have! Keep up the good work SWG...!
m10surf
Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:05 am
#199
ok some 1 tell me if im correct im a little confused so now instead of mastering a buch of prof we just need to do a few quest to unlock jedi?
neelong
Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:35 am
#200
Drunkenjedi420 wrote:
Man this is Horrible - anything thats done to the game people will still be negative - I dont even know whats good or bad anymore in this game - Honestly, I think I am just gonna give up on being serious anymore and play Tetris or something hehe. I feel like I am almost working for SONY OR SWG. Play hours a day - leave feedback - Promote the game to friends and family. Really this is getting out of hand for everyone. Cant we just have a game where everyone can have fun! Its not like this game is gonna last much longer guys with all the new software designers pouring into the market.
THUNDERHEART - IF YOU DONT GET some help - or at least try to make these guys happy - You should consider making some changes. YOU seem to be under a lot of heat man and I pray the Force is with you bro.
GUYS LETS TRY TO MAKE THINGS AS EASY AND CLEAR AS WE CAN for this guy. **edit** so many mixed feelings here.
-Sazo
I agree withmost of your post. Right up until the last. "
GUYS LETS TRY TO MAKE THINGS AS EASY AND CLEAR AS WE CAN for this guy. **edit** so many mixed feelings here."
This guy no longer has my sympathy vote. I used to feel sorry for him and take up for him but this dude gives us no feedback. NONE! People that develop this game and communicate with the community have something wrong with them.... they feel like they cant give information to us.
We have given clear concise comments to this company and i just dont agree that we havent.. I think they havent communicated to us very well..... they dont communicate nothing.. I get aggravated everytime I post. A game should not bring constant aggravation, I really wonder how many would play if the name starwars was not in the game title.. and people just played the game for fun.
Attikus
Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:47 am
#201
"Its been a YEAR!!!"
Wait a minute, are you implying that because its been a year we should be complaining about things.... like its ONLY been a year?
Are you out of your fricken mind? How long would you have a job if you had been at it fo a year and still couldnt get it right?
Yeah they are Human, and the yare getting paid to make and develop this game - so far they are getting below average perfromance reviews in my mind, oh and alomst every game reviewer out there agrees with me.
mmaughme
Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:52 am
#202
I have to say, I'm not to keen on my primary character becoming a Jedi. Why? Because my primary character is a Bothan. Bothan stats suck. I've been approaching the current Jedi system with the intention of making my FS character a Zabrak when I finally unlock. Under the new system I won't be able to do this without first creating a new primary character as a Zabrak and playing it with the intention of pursuing Jedi. Given I've already mastered eight professions, and am currently working on my ninth, the new system is going to completely mess up my plans (which are based upon the current system).
mmaughme
Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:53 am
#203
Grr...
That said, I like the quest concept of the new system. It should have been done that way in the first place. But, I'd really rather have a secondary character (as is currently done) to train as my Jedi.
That said, I like the quest concept of the new system. It should have been done that way in the first place. But, I'd really rather have a secondary character (as is currently done) to train as my Jedi.
Warp1001
Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:13 am
#204
TH ... I'm reading this with an open mind.
It sounds exactly the way I wished it had been from day one.... Great concept , I hope the design is great too.
Better late then never , as they say.
Vercin_getorix
Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:17 am
#205
Thunderheart wrote:
prettysic wrote:What happens to the holo grinders that haven't unlocked?They get to play through the new quest system in Publish 10.
Or quit. Sorry TH, I have to call it like I see it.
This flies in the face of pervious statements about "players will be rewarded for their progress."
Merxion_Levoy
Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:18 am
#206
One very simple question I am part of the people who have grinded 20+ professions. You said before there would be compensation for that in the new system. What is that compensation?
XBlue
Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:11 pm
#207
Most of the combat classes are broken,but they are fixing jedi w000t!
Most of the armor in the game is broken,but ubese and comp,but they are fixing jedi YEA!!!
The GCW is **edit** and they are fixing jedi,ALL IS SAVED!!!
The HAM system is broken,but they are fixing the Jedi,THANK GOD!
All though so many game destroy things are broken they are fixing jedi........
What should come first the small amount of people that are jedi,or the large amount of people that aren't.
Srank
Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:57 pm
#208
Well i don't see how you are going to protect the guys who have grinded out 10 professions vs the ones who have done 25+.
I have to say the seems to be a total sell out by SOE. You guys need to figure out what timeline you want this game to be in. If we assume it's in New Hope area you really can't have 100s of jedi running around. If you what all these Jedi why didn't you make the time line like Episode 1 where there is still a ton of jedi.
I am not a jedi nor do i love grinding holo's all day, but at least if and when i got my slot open i would have felt like my last 8 months or so playing would have been worth something.
SOE needs to figure out that this isn't the only game on the market and with games like:
City of Heros
World or Warcraft
Guild Wars (which if free to play)
Making me feel like i just wasted my time and money isn't going to keep me around.
Plus i hate the fact of the PvP for the later rounds. I understand it, but this only helps the Jedi who are in Mondo-Huge guilds and have running buddies. What about the part timers who play maybe 8 hrs total a week. Sure be a jedi, but its a dead profession because guilds are going to kick your ...... once you need PvP xp.
Those or just my thoughts.
Guess it's time to do some pre ordering just in case