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Thread: IT 6-6: Imperial Crackdown: Some changes made based on In-Test Feedback

guyvii
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:43 pm
#183


Electricnomad wrote:


So Imperials will be the Smugglers now. Tell us again why we spent skillpoint on this...


After all, Imperials have a 100% chance to avoid a scan, better than a Master Smuggler. So who's going to need a Master Smuggler to help move anyone's contraband?


This does not bode well for the future of Smugglers, and I am more disappointed today than I have ever been with SWG.


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I knew it. you can not please everyone no matter what. Rebs should want to be smugglers to get the bonus. I am a smuggler and I did it not because to the crack down . People with money will still pay the bribe ( opps, tribute to the emperior, lol ). So smugglers can still make money sliceing weapons and armor. AND , high rank officers only protect themselves , you need a smuggler to protect a group.


What do people post things when they have no clue what is going on or only bother reading one line of a 1000 line story. Kind of a waste for the writer to waste so much time writing when people do not read everything nor think everything out before commenting to us who want to learn.


MHO




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Esimed-Reyals
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:44 pm
#184

Ok, my 2 cents on this, and yes, I'm an imp.



"I shouldn't be able to be attacked by an overt imp because I'm smuggling illegel goods I shouldn't have" is just like the old "I shouldn't be able to be attacked by an overt Imp/reb just cause I did a faction mission"


If I remember correctly the devs said then that by signing up for a faction you are signing up for the possiblity of forced PVP, and the only way to not be forced is to be neutral, and that is why you don't have to be a faction if you don't want to.


Also to the smugglers that keep yelling they spent time and skill points to be smugglers, well imps have to spend time or money to get up to a rank where they will not be scanned. Sure, it isn't skill points being spent, but you get a group bonus for dodging scans. You say well everyone will just pass their sliced stuff to the highest ranking imp, but I know lots of people that anytime you want to trade them stuff they have to spend 5 minutes making room for the new stuff.


Also, everyone uses the police theory saying a cop can't carry around illegel goods and get away with it, but watch the movies and read the books....when is the last time you could say truthfully that over all the whole empire isn't crooked? People like Han solo was in the empire and left due to them not liking their methods.



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Thogek
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:44 pm
#185

Hi Friends/Dear TH

Problem
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I'm sure you will understand that a jedi will have a sliced armor or some spice on him for emergency situations - esp. since he can't buff himself e.g. at mind (currently! - I'm sure the revamp will adress a lot of the issues that are currently out - but that shouldn't be a reason not to think now about jedi <-> contraband/scanning)

Question for the Devs
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1. Is there any difference between wilderness scans and city scans? (Both gives Overt-Status to rebels?)
2. Is scanning only done in the 3 cities mentioned?
3. (Important!) Will (Rebel-)Jedi also become Overt if they get scanned?
=> You know that they can't go Covert (bec. the Recruiter won't speak to them)
=> You know this means that there is a (low?) chance that Imperial Griefers just wait to attack any jedi that need to train (even in those 3 cities bec. if a jedi was unlucky he got his trainer in one of those cities (see 2.) )
=> Even if they are smart and avoid cities (-> not getting scanned in the cities) they will get scanned in wildness, gain a Overt-Status and can't go to any city (and they need to go to cities at least to train new skills ). Not to mention they will be directly at the BH Terminals bec. they have had to either a) Attack the Troopers or b) Use ForceRun [there could be a c) but I just guessing the vehicle auto-stored 1h ago in the wildness ,) ]

Solutions
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1. Jedi don't get scanned because they have a nature ability to hide some items from the eyes of low level troopers
or
2. Jedi get in the Padawan Tree a Skill that they can use to hide items
or
3. Jedi become a Overt Flag but automatically set to Covert after 1h (like if you just talk to the recruiter as normal player - go overt - directly go covert again.)
4. And I'm sure a lot more ... any ideas from other guys?


2 and 3 could be combined

Please answer this post because I think it isn't really fun if a jedi got killed in kor vella, have to clone again just to get again scanned and gain the Overt-Status. Wouldn't be fair - or? :-) (at least just a msg that you will think/adress it in any way so that you haven't the situation that jedi won't be able to

Bye,
Thogek
PaxRomana
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:45 pm
#186

This is great! I am about to master smuggler. I can't wait to upgrade my rank so I am saulted.


Marvelous TH.


Thanks,







Pax Romana, M.D.
RedVenom400
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:45 pm
#187

pwy you can live you dream in a single player too , and wont have to deal with pvp , again :


when you kill an imperial npc you get a tef , when you run rebel misions , you get a tef , when you get a tef , you can be attacked by players (wich i have been many times )


so your dream is to live in a mmorpg set in "super easy mode " were you shot the storm trooper once , he dies and you come back to a parade of players bowing to your for your skills ?


perhaps you dream is in KOTOR and not in a mmorpg , or awnwer this question , why do you play a mmorpg ?





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SithLizard
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:46 pm
#188

Wow!! I like it so far. Thanks for getting the changes implemented, TH. This is a huge improvement to the original implementation.




RedVenom400
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:46 pm
#189

sogan : what is your chances of finding an overt imp in the wilderness may i ask ?



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Regarding jedi nerfs:"All who gain power are afraid to lose it, even the Jedi"Chancelor palpatine
Iceman-KG-
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:48 pm
#190

Yes. Rank means a little, and rebels have a reason to be scared once in a while. Good job.



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Cry4Dawn
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:50 pm
#191

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TitoLandrum
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:50 pm
#192

Not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but if Rebels are forced overt with a TEF, shouldn't Imperial officers be forced with a TEF as well, if they are saluted.





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silversaber
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:50 pm
#193






RedVenom400 wrote:

anothe thought for the whiners : dont carry ilegal items if you dont want to be fined , this game is made so if you want to stay away from pvp you can stay neutral , or not carry anything ilegal , i still dont get people that thinks getting killed by a player is such a bad thing , you die , you clone , you dont lose any thing , even insurance (after new patch ) lets say you are not cloned you get some small wounds , big freaking whoo hoo deal !!!! i would be mad pi$#$$ed if they take this awesome feaure away from the game cause of people that cry that dont want to be killed ,



if all you want to do is kill mindles npcs , why in the god good all wisom do you chose to play a mmorpg !!! :@ go play a console ame or a single player game like KOTOR , were there is plenty of content , and lots of npc that berely put any fight so you can press load , or download a cheat and go back to were you was .


for all of you smart people out there , when you kill a storm trooper you get a tef too ! so what are you complaining about wanting to only kill storm troopers without being attacked by players ,


second you dont always get cought , the check ups use a roll , so chances are that if you only carry around a sliced gun or a muon gold you wont be detected , carry a load of ilegal stuff and the chance increases


why do you get into a faction if you dont want to fight i wonder?


yes chances of getting detected should decrese based on rank and never be completely trouble free , and only overt imperials should abort scans


devs , please just do what you think is right and stop getting pushed over by whiners by all sakes , next thing people will ask is that the storm trooper gives you a gentle spank and ask you to go about your buisness











Maybe because we would rather play WITH other people, than against?


But I wont waste any more of my breath, since there is no way in hell that PK D3WDS like you would understand that.


The most dissapointing part is, the Devs understand but choose to ignore that the majority of playersplay this way.


Its a sad sad day in this game.

PwyllTwiceborn
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:50 pm
#194

Hey RedVenom, why do you play? You can get more PvP in PlanetSide or Halo or something? I play to play with others, console games are not for me. This game offers a choice to do whatever it is you like to do. Both aspects of PvE and PvP, this game is not solely based on PvP.


Yes, if I am out doing faction missions, I control when I want to PvP with my TEF. If I get scanned, I don't control that and that's forcing me into PvP if/when it happens around Overt Imperials.





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jd2134
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:50 pm
#195

hum so let see you dev rolled this out with out giving player the ability to tell if a item is sliced or not till the next big patch. BAD. 12 bucks a month


imperial player are still better at smugging then a master smuggler. as the imp can get busted but will not suffer for it will the master smuggler can face death? VERY BAD. 12 bucks a month


watching dev wack away with the nerf bat then think about their actions after the fact . PRICELESS


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