Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever
MisterWizard
Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:00 pm
#1821
Just a few side thoughts for TH...
- I admire your continued optimism and the unquestionable effort you put in to your job.
- I admire the developers and designers for their accomplishments in many areas, and their unquestionable effort.
- I question some business decisions regarding the direction of efforts.
You have an opportunity to shine brighter than ever before right now, by publishing a true, honest response to the unquestionable negative feedback on this latest development.
I know that if you came out and said, "I understand your grief, and I sympathize. I don't agree with the decision, but the decision was made by management," I would applaud your honesty and integrity.
When private industry fails, people are held accountable. (When government fails, no one is held accountable.) Tell us who forced this decision upon you so we know who is responsible for it.
Dameos
Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:29 pm
#1822
All I have to say is this:
I will continue to play SWG, with or without JTL, with or without the combat fix, with or without the class fixes, I have been playing the game since second day release, I have seen some very big changes since then, some i agree with soem a disagree with.
However, comming from a multitude of other MMO's UO, EQ, Diablo, E&B, I like what SWG has to offer, It has all the things I liked from the other MMO's so it rolled 4 games into one for me... for that i will be a loyal player...
To say the only negative thing i will say for this decision to push the CB back yet again... Take a Look at SOE's other MMO EQ, I can tell you about at least 5 "spots" in that game that for the past what 5 years? have been bugged, and when sent as a bug notice the only reply is "this is a known issue and we are looking into it" for 5 years people... heh SOE wants money, Mr. Sony HAD Mariah Carrie.. and he lost her... hahahah so now he wants his money back from that $10 million dollar wedding..
Mysril
Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:34 pm
#1823
BOTH ACCOUNTS CANCELLED July 17th 2004
This is sickening abuse of the loyal SWG player base by the devs. Either they are simply filthy sadists or just oblivious to the fact that EVERYONE IN THE ENTIRE FRIGGIN GAME WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE A DECENT ROUND OF PVP COMBAT THAN THE ABILITY TO FLY A SHIP.
That being said, I rest my case.
This is sickening abuse of the loyal SWG player base by the devs. Either they are simply filthy sadists or just oblivious to the fact that EVERYONE IN THE ENTIRE FRIGGIN GAME WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE A DECENT ROUND OF PVP COMBAT THAN THE ABILITY TO FLY A SHIP.
That being said, I rest my case.
JSpeedFreak
Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:45 pm
#1825
Shhh don't give them ideas, I can imagine this post real soon:
Attention SWG Community, following the "Great Expectations" road map for continued improvement of the game, we are instituting MAN BOOBS, as we understand that the Jedi are claiming that a game without such enhancements is a game breaking situation. We are able to squeeze this into patch 10. Smugglers, we'll be getting to you next, I promise.
Ofonn
Dodece
Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:54 pm
#1826
I have no problem with delays. Few people do, and most people understand fully. The problem is this never needed to be delayed. It never even got worked on, but it did not stop from telling people they were. Wow major freaking revelation. They lied to keep us playing the game. With every intention of keeping us here till jtl. Which they think will make us forget it will not. The joke is on them though. The kids they are courting now are not the most loyal of sort. They flip with the fad.
When wow comes out these kids will flip like a pancake and be gone, and since they neglected the loyal players most of them will be going to wow to. Result a dead game.
The combat balance will never come. They will pop out jtl, and then go into the next expansion more planets. After january first. Then they will let the game suffer for another year for planets expansion.
There is blame enough to go round. Lusasarts for being retards. SOE for not applying the screws to them to keep the product viable. Thunderheart for just out right lieing to us. The facts are even worse they have doubled the players in the game by cutting the cost of the game, and be giveing out free trials. Number one sign that the game is hurting. When I company cuts profit in the vain hope to snare more players.
Just emptied two houses destroyed them and dumped it all in a bank box. I feal so bad.
Oleck
Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:58 pm
#1827
Shame on you SOE.....bad form....youCOULD HAVEdone a great job with this combat revamp and GCW and made TONS of people(like me) happy, instead you let us down and now we are sad, pissed, or worse. (well take that back....we are almost numb to your bad and almost disturbingly lame decisions)
I for one agree with those that say push back JTLS in order to fix the game that we pay for...we should not be paying for a broken game while you guys use our time and money to work on an expansion so you can rake in tons more money for lucas and SOE.
We pay a monthly fee for content and support....2 things we have recieved very little of in 1 years time, please do the right thing and fix what is really broken before you release a broken expansion for a broken game.
thanks (i guess)
Oleck
ddude
Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:35 pm
#1828
we dont NEED JtL but we do need a WORKING combat system. Don't introduce more bugs and imbalances into the game with a new expansion until the old ones have been fixed. Thanks
PakRendo
Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:37 pm
#1829
Wow, with all of the messages from angry players I hope the point has been made to the Devs.I haven't cried since I watched Ah-nold lowered into the molten metal at the end of T2, but reading that the CB was delayed made me come close.Please Devs, don't put the horse before the wagon, fix what we have now before adding other "content" that will need to be patchedand will take up time from the *cough* quality control team.
Dodece
Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:39 pm
#1830
What can I say I feal myself being pulled to the darkside of the force. Anything not lucas arts and sony.
Bodizzle
Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:47 pm
#1831
I stopped playing back in November, after playing an MCH and getting beat down with an oversized nerf bat. Two weeks ago I started playing again, after my brother told me" a combat revamp is coming.... it should make this game fun again". The first day I came back I felt like Rip Van Winkle. People waiting in line for Doc buffs in Coronet, no groups anywhere cept "solo groups" and PvP reduced to (whatever group has the most jedi wins) no tactics needed. These things kinda raised my eyebrow, after 8 months away I thought things would have improved.....
I read a forum last october about us creature handlers being overpowered, now a guy in comp armor with buffs and some brandy can easily crush whatever they come across minus a few high end encounters, Kimo, Krayt etc. This just shows howunbalanced the Devs have made the game.I'll prolly still play if they actually push the combat revamp up, and fix alot of the stupid little crap bugs like warping when you get off speeders and whatnot. Im not gonna buy JTLS right away until I read all the posts my fellow players put up about it. I dont wanna be sucked into playing another half finished product.
This Sucker is down to the soggy white stick - Topper Harley
Bodizzle - Scylla
GuardianWolf
Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:58 pm
#1832
To the SWG-Team:
I can't describe how disappointing this decision is. You all knowexactlythat many professions are in a very bad shape. Instead of working on the existing problems, you decide to squeeze as much money out of your product as possible and release an add-on to an incomplete game.
Incomplete? Just read the profession correspondent bug and flaw lists. Fixing game breaking bugs won't happen unless enough people complain on the message boards, which is plain sad.
It's probably too late now to stop your plans. But by looking at the passionate feedback you received, i hope you realize your mistake - online gamers actually DO have brains.
This is my first post, and it sounds very negative. However, i enjoy this game and learnt to live with it's flaws. If i would not care i would not take time to write this. I decided to wait a week or two to see how the SWG-team reacts to thisfatal mistake they made. Words are not enough now though, the players want to see that you care about their opinions. If no deeds follow and you continue with your plans and give the expansion priority over fixing important things, then i have no hope for SWG. A fancy looking space simulation will not bring back frustrated players who feel ripped off.
Poor Thunderheart - this announcement gave you a bad name, even though it's not your fault at all. I hope the SWG-Team rethinks it's decision. It was a very bad move and may mean the end of SWG, at least for me.
With respect, GuardianWolf
pjmchem
Sat Jul 17, 2004 4:06 pm
#1833
JSpeedFreak wrote:Shhh don't give them ideas, I can imagine this post real soon:Attention SWG Community, following the "Great Expectations" road map for continued improvement of the game, we are instituting MAN BOOBS, as we understand that the Jedi are claiming that a game without such enhancements is a game breaking situation. We are able to squeeze this into patch 10. Smugglers, we'll be getting to you next, I promise.Ofonn
Thanks Ofonn, I haven't had beer come out of my nose this week.
5* for YOU!