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Now call me crazy but where is everyone getting this "MBH should be the only one to wear this armor" stuff. Because they saw Mr Bob wearing it in a movie or 2? The Mandalorians were warriors and mercs not MBH or MC hell some of em were prolly even Pikeman ( a strecth i know hehe). Limiting it to a single class or 2 would be pointless, granted MBH and MC are starved for defense but that is an issue in the works for fixing already ( "some"day ). I'm just about to hit master pistoleer and I'd wanna go do the quests so i could walk around in some Mandy armor myself. I have semi-"full" faith in the devs to see the "non" connection with Bobby Fett wearing some armor and then in game limiting it to certain classes.

I think Carbineers should be able to use it or have it designed for us as we have the title "Mercenary"

my feelings on mandalorian armor:

1. It should not be craftable, but possibly have modification options (like sockets in the bracers to fit add-ons that certain classes can craft)

2. Individual pieces should only drop one at a time, and very rarely (like exceptional loot)

3. Pieces should drop in a variety of colors, quality, and possibly modification options

4. Wearable only by masters of a combat profession, possibly 2 professions.

5. Shouldbe ideal for jedi hunting (this stuff was supposed to be resistant to lightsabers)

6. Wearers of this armor gain a visiblity line (like jedi) and become open to bounty hunter missions (this would make it so that only really tough players would be wearing it)

My feelings on armor in general:

1. There should be different armors that are ideally suited to differentprofessions or hybrids

2. Should have reasonable certifications

3. is too powerful already

4. should be colorable like composite

I think that this should be a pretty readily available armor, but that only MBH's can wear it. First of all I think they deserve something for spending 217 skill points to become a MBH. In addition, if they're going to be hunting Jedi down, they'll need something to protect from all those nasty Jedi specials don't they?

Anyway, I think this is a fair compromise because most BH's don't become masters because there's no real benefit to it since you can go up smuggler and get some good specials off of that and be better at PvP than a MBH. Even if this isn't really awesome armor, it'll be nice for those RPers to have something to show off for being an MBH.

You know what? Just keep it out of the game.

The bounty hunters are just going to continue to cry and moan if anyone gets something they don't, and god forbid Mandalorian armor is made available to everyone.

Guess what? It's not a bounty hunter only armor. It's armor from a race of mercenaries that a couple of bounty hunters happened to wear. Deal with it.

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Malcolm_CaKre wrote:

At the risk of repeating.... let me summarize the best ideas so far, in my opinion. (and maybe add one or two)

(1) Mandalorians were soldiers, and preferred heavy weapons. So, certify Mandalorian armor at Master Commando. Also, there's the obvious reason to let Bounty Hunters wear it, so give the cert to MBH as well. Nobody else, unless SOE comes out with a third offensive/combat hybrid, should have the cert to wear Mandalorian. Maybe they can put it on to show off in, but double HAM/half protection seems fair.

(2) Mandalorian should have some built in buffs, to bring up the somewhat lagging defenses on these two classes... The Mandalorians themselves, being concerned with heavy weaponry, would have ignored their defense, and maybe relied on their armor for such things.

(3) Crafters should have a role, for sure. Looting should have a role, for sure. There's supposed to only be a couple of suits in the timeline at this point. We can wrap up all three of these, by adapting the Jedi lightsaber rules.... The stuff you loot is old and beat up Mandalorian, leftover relics from the Death Watch hideout. The schematics you can get are to "repair" the armor -- no "new" Mandalorian can be made. The components are such things as metal and syncloth, and maybe some heavy leathers and clasps, etc. And, most importantly, the original, beat-up armor piece that you're "repairing".

(4) Mandalorian should be resistant to lightsabers and force powers. Certainly (ask Master Windu) not perfect defense, but good resistance. If we ever (appropriately) get a separate damage type for lightsaber, then Mandalorian should be about the only stuff in the galaxy with a resistance to it. Otherwise, coding in some special resistances to sabers and force stuff would be appropriate to an object such as this.

(5) Perhaps only a Master BH or Commando would be able to even begin the quests for Mandalorian. It's pretty rare stuff, and while distinctive, probably only a few people know what it was or what to ask for or look for. Getting Mandalorian armor would make a wonderful career capstone for the BH or Commando player. (and I hope start a trend, like RIS, of having career capstone quests for all of the profs... ) Hopefully, our BH/Commando protagonist would be forced to call upon the skills of others in order to complete their quests. (again, hopefully starting a trend for adding to the social/interactive/interdependent nature of things)

I called 'em. This is how I sees them.

Malcolm Ca'Kre

Intrepid

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There are some great ideas in here! I have to digress that Mandalorian should be class restricted. In the older days, Jedi Knights and Sith Warriors wore HEAVY armor, resistant to lighsabers and likely added in similar buffs. However, perhaps a unique 'Jedi Knight/Sith' armor could be added in later. I agree I'd much rather see BH recognized in their Mandalorian armor, with Dark Jedis in a seperate armor, and maybe Jedi in a different armor to that. It helps make the classes unique and 'cool'.

Still not sure I agree they should be even vaguely easy to make. As long as it's fairly powerful (possibly better stun armor then current composite, and then similiar stats to composite- with some state defences, I really like those ideas about skill bonuses in armor!) then players will work hard to get it and have fun doing so.

How to avoid camping the rare resources though? High level, random mobs that appear 'anywhere' should be included. Possibly instanced quests as well - I love that idea since it avoids camping in a big way, and generates real fun for a group. Kill stealing ALWAYS annoys me in any MMORPG. The RIS concept is really quite good, in my opinion. It's just a shame the armor itself cannot match up to composite. Well, I suppose in the combat revamp if HAM encumbrance of armor becomes a big deal, then RIS will be great again...

I would really like to see unique armors have lightsaber resistance, and get rid of the armors so easy to make 90% resistant to lightsabers too. This would instill the 'fear' that Jedi should have at a Mandolorian equipped BH coming after them.

Ren

great yet another thing that not only should have been in the game already but we were told already was i'm getting tired of this

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Sphirax wrote:

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PuntaSur wrote:

Don't you think with the resources that folks like Jabba or Vaderhave, they would place some Mandalorian armor on display in their personal museums if they desired it enough, or even get is modified to fit them? What would have stopped them from doing it? They had the personnel and capital resources to do it if they wished. It certainly was not limited to them because they were not Bounty Hunters by profession.

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Jabba in Mandalorian armor, that would be impressive, how would the pants work though...

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You know, I was really serious when I wrote this to illustrate how capital resources in any real economy dictate beyond any real limitations. After clicking the submit button, I realized how absolutely hilarious this would be to see Jabba in Mandalorian armor. In fact, it would be a great April Fool's trick if the devs did this for April 1 visitors to Jabba's palace. They would get the screen shot of the century! Maybe even have Boba wearing his underpants whilechained to a rancor for some corporal punishment for letting Han get away so many times.