Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Force Ranking System Feedback...
NikkiDial
Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:31 am
#144
You dont have to drop meditate, I stated the last tree was up to you what to get 
Seshemw
Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:54 am
#145
DarkWraith65 wrote:Only problem with your template Nikki is a CM will jack you up with poison and disease. I'd say drop meditate and pick up the other healing tree. Mediate only really helps you after a fight not during and that's when it matters most.
Except that synergy is where you get drain as well.
Your opponent having no force points is a good way towards them dying.
xb7rvfy
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:06 am
#146
I just want to say that I am not on test center but have unlocked my jedi on Bloodfin. I am very dissapointed that you have decided to enter an element of forced PVP. So if I understand this correctly once I get my jedi to a certain point I will only be able to gain rank by killing other jedi or overts on the other side?? I am not one of those people that joined up on this game to pvp but like the idea of being able to have a jedi character. I recently unlocked about 1week ago so I am starting behind a bunch of the higer level jedi. I feel basically that I will be excluded from ever being able to go beyond a certain point, I am basically being limited to how far I can go while people that unlocked before me get grandfathered in. I will be running around trying to get ranking points but will be cut down by these higher jedi or teams of other overts. What a shame you couldnt come up with another system...I am very dissapointed 
I dont know if you will read this or not but I hope you do.
I dont know if you will read this or not but I hope you do.
Demigoth
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:54 am
#147
i am a Jedi Consular on TC2 Rank 7 atm, one thing i have notice is that the Rank xp we get is way lower compared to what we lose in the amount of time given, i think it needs to be tested even further but atm its more than hard to get the rank and on TC2 u see pvp all day.
ElanMak
Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:23 am
#148
Besides the fact that a single PA will likely control the force ranking system, I feel that it is unnecessary to limit the number of entry-level FRS players. As it is, the xp required to even start the FRS system is enough of a deterrent, and limiting the number of low-ranking FRSplayers is unnecessary.
If rankings are from 0 (highest) to 10 (lowest), then perhaps levels 6 and above can be limited to a certain number of players. But for levels 7 and lower, there is no limit to the number of FRS ranked players.
This would give everyone a chance to make it in to the FRS system at the lowest level, and even players who play semi-casually or have to take long breaks due to work or RL can still participate. At the same time, the higher level ranks are only occupied by people with no life other than SWG. So, instead of making the FRS be completely exclusive, this would open it up and give people a goal (rank 10) and a reason to keep playing their Jedi character.
Also, there are huge differences in server populations, with some servers having twice as many users as other servers. So, since the FRS system does not change based on the server population, then opening up the lower levels would help compensate for the reduced chances of attaining high rank in the FRS on busy servers.
DarkWraith65
Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:39 pm
#149
Anyone who complete's the Knight Trials and the Light/Dark ones can be rank 0 which is the lowest. Some of the newer mods are very nice indeed and should only be had by those willing/able to do the work to keep them. Personally, I don't see how a guild will be able to dominate the FRS as some seem so worried about.
Limobacca
Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:42 pm
#150
not sure if this has been mentioned yet.
if the rank above you is filled when you qualify for it you are stuck until a seat is opened. in the light enclave you can't even get a petition in to have someone voted out. this really needs to be changed.
do you have a vote to see if everyone in a given rank maintians there position? at least on the dark side you can challenge a rank for an attempt to gain a lvl your not just stuck til a seat opens. even though it would seem that it isn't working at the moment.
the way it looks right now on the light side it will be very easy to block people from advancing til everyone in a rank is ready to advance up. and with the noted xp losses for not doing the pvp daily it would take a long time for someone to lose enough xp to drop out of rank eligibility.
these are my opinions and questions concerning the voting system in the enclaves.
Nomdorn
Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:46 am
#151
The voting system for the light side looks good to me. Only the active and known player can gain ranks in this system. And you cannt be voted out - only if you are not so active anymore. This is good, cause all you need to do is participate in the GCW and not only playing the voter in the encalve. The darks cant hold a rank for long. They will self destroying the dark side, cause of duels all the time. Looks very good and on the story line.
But please make the voting menu more understandable. List the free ranks or the names of the owners of the rank in the menu. It was very difficult to see, which rank can be voted for or not. As i said, i dont wont to bring my whole ingame time with voting or standing before the voting terminal in the enclaves. Thanks
Btw. the enclaves looks great !!
Nomdorn
Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:45 am
#152
Ah, and i forgot to mention.
- Make the guards more aggressive, so no covert or neutral player can come near the entrance.
- You can read the spatial said words inside the enclave also outside and vice versa. This wont be good, if there are council meetings and any neutral / covert player outside can hear what is said inside.
Jetster
Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:16 am
#153
Forced PVP isnt cool in any situation The Forced rank system should be quest based the whole way , so they game can evolve with expansions like space, combinations of loot and quests keep people playing and interested like EQ 6 years strong, but i am in favor of choosing a side and being overt once youre a master. But in order to get better shouldnt be determined by 12 year little boys sitting on the council that have to vote for me. this system ensures i wont be participating in the FRS.
bade1911
Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:49 am
#154
I found a bug yesterday as I was tied for a vote for Rank 2 Sentinal 2 and there were 2 open seats available. I received my email and I proceed to the voting terminal (about 15 steps away). The person I was tied with accepted her promotion and when I accepted my promotion it told me that I have accepted my promotion BUT nothing happened. I talked to the Dev that was there and he told me that I did not show up on the Rank 1 or Rank 2 listing so he asked me to drop Level 1 sentinal and go back to Knight as they did not know what caused the bug. I assumed he was going to just bump me to the open spot on level 2 as I sent him the email stating I had won/tied for the vote. I was told that I have to petition for Rank 1 all over again and 4 hours later I am still a knight That was a fun way to spend 6 hours last night going from being a level 2 sentinal all the way back down to Knight. Hope they get the bug fixed as it happened to another person this morning when I relogged and I overheard him talking about it.
airon
Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:47 am
#155
1. anyone who has defens/saber trees you get no advantage to rank other thatn more force pool/regen where all the others get bonuses to forcepower maybe we should get damage/forcecost for specials bonuses?
2. The light side voting methods are waaaay too tedious we shoud have one day a week say friday where everyone for 24 hours can pettion and then voting is open on saturday and acceptance on sunday why??? Time the way it is now if you snooze you loose unfair not everyone has 3hours to waste standing around a voting box!!
make each session last 24 hours run it every other week and all will be good!! even better make the evryother week thing for sentinals and anyone council and up has one month till they can be voted out /in kind of like a term of office 
I dont know about dark side voting/challenge but it should be as chaotic as it can (even a way to have two leaders and diffrent factions within, as they are darkside inner trumoil is their game) i havnt went dark (yo-duh/xeries).
also before this goes live id like to see you guys open up tc2 (say this weekend) to all combat professions and give them all starter packs (i know big undertaking ) but it would allow us to really stress combat right now all we test against are MBH and a few TKM on server i wanna have a go at rifleman/cm fencer/tkm swords/pike etc!!!!!
) but it would allow us to really stress combat right now all we test against are MBH and a few TKM on server i wanna have a go at rifleman/cm fencer/tkm swords/pike etc!!!!!
PuntaSur
Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:22 pm
#156
June 10:
Knight Trials resulted in 1 success by finding and carefully killing 8 Ancient Bull Rancors (with help from others), and then dead ended with 7 hours of searching for 2Peko Peko Albatross.
June 12:
Knight Trials did not advance despite dev spawn assistance because secretly/magically my quest changed from 2 Peko Pekos to 3 Bluurg Raptors. I found this out AFTER killing several Peko's at the dev spawn site and not getting credit (even though I was in a large group working together). I rode out to a shrine and found out I now had 3 Bluurg Raptors as a quest instead (wish I knew that several hours earlier since my last order from the Force was the Pekos). I went back to the dev spawn location ready for Bluurg Raptors only to find everyone gone.
June 16:
I was finally nudged into the FRS after hammering my head into the Knight Trials wall enough times that a dev gave me the boost. I received 15K of FRS xp and was eligible for FRS Rank 1. I entered the Enclaves and was very impressed with the artwork and design. I sat at the Voting Terminal with roughly 30 other Knights ready to petition for rank 1 for about 3 hours with nobody able to get ranked. Then the server went down.
What exactly are we suppose to be testing here?I realize it is TEST, and I realize we have been provided with boosts here and there, but mercy...7 hours of combing a planet for animals, and 3 hours of sitting at a terminal is quite an investment for TEST.I'll take another look there tonight and see if voting and ranking progression is feasible and functional. I do appreciate the gentle nudges to help get us into the testing areas you need, and hopefully we can see things work in there soon as well.
I'll update again if I see this function.