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Thread: Live Issues Publish 9: Secrets of the Force PT II

EMC2
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:05 am
#144

Why don't you get the systems you created to just work correctly instead of thrashing back and forth with this TEF system?


- Make "visibility system" work so that there is massively increased visibility given to a Jedi who uses saber/force in front of non-grouped players.


- Get the "BH Jedi mission system" working correctly so when visibility gets a Jedi on the mission terminals the BH's can actually track and kill them.


Do these two simple things and you will put an immediate end to the complaints of Jedi showing off in public and doing the static quest locations repeatedly.

Bukan
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:08 am
#145


Wookrunner wrote:









Bukan wrote:

Wookrunner .......

it looks like you dont know how to pvp a jedi, jedis are not UBER, just learn how to pvp







I am a weaponsmith and armorsmith want me to bang them with my crafting tools







ok and why do u say jedi are UBER ?? dont listen to rumors other people are saying




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Bukan unlocked after mastering 28 professions
The night before I unlocked some voice whispered to me: "Have to master Bounty Hunter and force with you will be!"
nolan007
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:08 am
#146



Thundheart:


We don't think of slinging poisons and diseases when we think of Star Wars (the movies).


Since last year, all players that I knowhave been begging for Combat Medics to be balanced.


This professionhassoley destroyed the potential fun-factor of GCW as well as all PvP in Star Wars Galaxies.


Combat Medics should be the combat medics... great healingabilities from adistance during PvE and PvP encounters.



Poisons and diseasesshould be minor secondary attacks in PvP... something that adds a little damage over time to help in the battle.


Poisons and diseases should not be the "meat and potatoes" of Star Wars Galaxies PvP.


I'm talking an "uber" poison or disease with the best resources, materials, and lootshould probably never tick more than about 175 a tick in PvP. An average poisons tick in PvP would be around 100.


Star Wars (the movies and mythos) is known for lightsabers, the force,blasters, etc... not medic hybrids slinging poisons and diseases whenfighting one another.







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( Maybe one day these ideas will be considered or implemented. Bump it, please? )

MakkTenn
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:11 am
#147

Jedi TEF. I think its a bad idea to bring back full jedi tef... very bad idea with the 200k xp loss and the rez camping that is occuring..


The issues i have noticed with tef...


1) Bounty tef's. If the bounty hunter takes your mission and cancels it he gets a permanent tef on you.


2) After bounty hunter KILLS you he still has tef. If you have a doc rez you or use regain conciousness he can kill you over and over.. Even if you clone your the bh still has TEF on you.


3) When Bh brings friends: As soon as he fires the first shot everyone in group can attack the jedi. However jedi's group can not attack back every time.. This is occuring even when imp bh's with imps in the group are attack imperial jedi.





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wookgunner
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:12 am
#148






Bukan wrote:


Wookrunner wrote:









Bukan wrote:

Wookrunner .......

it looks like you dont know how to pvp a jedi, jedis are not UBER, just learn how to pvp







I am a weaponsmith and armorsmith want me to bang them with my crafting tools







ok and why do u say jedi are UBER ?? dont listen to rumors other people are saying





I dont want to get into a pissing contest, but i am talking about those kids in the startports and dungeons showing off thinking they are the greatest. Relax... dont take things so seriously.




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ThorsAnvil
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:12 am
#149






Ramona_Garcia wrote:

Get Saber TEF back in game. It is the only way to keep those kiddies from showing off their glowy sticks at each opportunity.





HUH?



I say put TEF's on all entertainers, I am tired of them dancing around in there skimpy clothes.



COME ON PEOPLE, your tired of seeing light sabres?


ok what next? take off your shoes when you come into a cantina?






Understand JEDI EXP (exp based on normalized kills)

Master Elite Prof 3,891,000 exp / 4200 exp = 926 Rancors for Master Elite anything
Master LightSaber 15,280,000 exp / 1000 exp = 15280 Rancors for Master LS
Cafa
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:16 am
#150






Gamesanator wrote:

With no tef ive finaly started to enjoy your game again its nice to be able to do missions, quests, themeparks,caves and all the other content you guys had taken away from the jedi class. Im not going back to some corner on endor and leveling on the same lairs for months on end by myself that was the complete oppisite of fun.If i cantplay with my friends and enjoy this games content theres no reason for any jedi to be here especially me.


The only purpose the tef served was so that we couldnt enjoy the game and get greived on a constant basis. We unlocked our jedi is it okay if we actually enjoy the class is it?


Of course there were jedi dueling in cornet we've been waiting for months for a fix to this broken class and we finally got and wanted to have fun for a few days is that ok with you guys? Patch 9 hit and we were all excited finialy our class is fixed and we wanted to go out and have some actual (fun) which none of us had been having since we unlocked if youll notice most of the first people that unlocked have quit the game because it wasent fun at all instead it felt like a job.


Why is it looked down upon for us duel anywhere we want? People are complaing and crying nerf because there mad they dont have jedi or cant stand that they arent the uberest class in the look at all the tkm's in the game now everyone could go grind that class and be uber in two days at the most but they cant grind jedi in two days and they hate us for it. Look at the bh's main complaint " i cant own jedi" thats what there mad about they cant stand the fact that they cant spam scatter shot and own us so they cry nerf.


I thought you guys were trying to make this class fun? We are jedi the best class in the star wars universe (not even that anymore) if the other players want to be one let them work for it instead of listening to there constant i cant own jedi nerf crys.


Is it ok if we have fun i thought thats what videogames were for?







Freaking whiners.


You KNEW what Jedi was designed as when you started the quest.


You KNEW that TEF and Permadeath were real.


You WHINE like little babies when you can't have your mini-god be invulnerable too.


Go figure.




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dragonisthedoor
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:16 am
#151











21) LOS bug still in effect with Area of Effect shots. Will still hit everything in the AoE regardless of line of sight.


The LOS changes were minor to start out with and more LOS changes will be coming soon.





This "bug" is very useful to use when something you want to kill is stuck in a wall or other object and you can't see it. Especially helpful to Bounty Hunters. I don't want this to be changed unless it is horribly unbalancing pvp.



Drache
ThorsAnvil
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:16 am
#152






Kharrissa wrote:

Can we please get some non-jedi servers?







can we please get some none-(what ever his proffession is) servers?


god forbid we allow Jedi in SWG, but have Bio engineer's, commando's ...




Understand JEDI EXP (exp based on normalized kills)

Master Elite Prof 3,891,000 exp / 4200 exp = 926 Rancors for Master Elite anything
Master LightSaber 15,280,000 exp / 1000 exp = 15280 Rancors for Master LS
Bukan
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:18 am
#153








Wookrunner wrote:





Bukan wrote:


Wookrunner wrote:









Bukan wrote:

Wookrunner .......

it looks like you dont know how to pvp a jedi, jedis are not UBER, just learn how to pvp







I am a weaponsmith and armorsmith want me to bang them with my crafting tools







ok and why do u say jedi are UBER ?? dont listen to rumors other people are saying





I dont want to get into a pissing contest, but i am talking about those kids in the startports and dungeons showing off thinking they are the greatest. Relax... dont take things so seriously.






i dont wanna make a "pissing contest" but for me, i only started with swg to play a jedi and make pvp. and i dont know why we should not be able to go into dungeons as other players. ok u could say in starwars jedis dont show themselves. but in starwars jedi are UBER and would not be killed by a silly tka. i have to take it so seriously because i will quit if things will get like before pub 9 and i dont wanna get nearly a year of playing just wasted because some people are pissed by a few jedis. why the hell did i master 28 professions to get a weak saberman ??



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Rantjawyk Jedi Knight PVP since 1744

Bukan unlocked after mastering 28 professions
The night before I unlocked some voice whispered to me: "Have to master Bounty Hunter and force with you will be!"
Cafa
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:21 am
#154






Gaenjin wrote:






17) Jedi TEF’s: We are reassessing this change now.



No!!


The FRS system is for PVP.


You people promised "PVE-only" (except for BH missions) as well as our choice of faction, instead of sticking us Imperials with Rebel Jedi !!! Hordes of Imperial NPCs should descend upon Rebels and Neutralsusing Force in City zones. If you force us Imperials into the Rebel faction again, just because you can't come up with any other creative way to control Rebel and Neutral Padawans from displaying their powers... we're NOT going to be happy.


I'm sorry that some players are annoying others with their "Jedi-ishness" in Cities, but that's life in an online game. People areat their worst becauseof the anonymity of the Internet,and there's little anyone can do about it.


As far as all the "complaints" go, I can guarantee thatif I were tostand outside of Theed Starport all day, in my Padawan robe, doing nothing andsaying nothing, and someone would get upset by my presence and "report" me or post a complaint. That's just ridiculous.


Seriously, the line has to be drawn somewhere on whining and game achievement jealousy. If all this is going to turn into, is a game where the players of the community are set against each other, OOCly, by the Development and Designteam, then let us know now so I can feed another company my money.








They promised us that Jedi would actually be worthy of the character, too. Not macro magicians like 99% of you really are.


Bring back accountability. Bring back Jedi TEF.




- Strength In Numbers - Loyal Subjects of the Empire
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A player bodyguard can't protect you either, something agroes you, you are dead. The
only difference between a pet and the person, is you pay the person to stand there
and watch you die. -- Straker Atrella

lund0529
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:23 am
#155

Not a cry for a nerf, but is this working as intended?


I was invited to duel a jedi (In Coronet Starport, no less). She was surrounded by at least half a dozen ranged professions, helping her to test her blocking. I *maybe* could land 1/20 shots as a Master Rifleman. I was trying all of my specials, and default attack. Same with the others all around... once in awhile a single shot would get through, but she could more than regen that damage before getting any more damage.


She could have kept it up all day...
Snigo
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:25 am
#156


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I have a brand new composite armor chestplate I keep in my bank as a spare for when mine wears out. When Publish 9 went live I had a scare the first time I went into my bank and it showed up as red. I picked it up and once in my inventory it was fine. I put it back in the bank and the next day the same thing happened. I know it was red at least twice, maybe more, but it's been fine the last several days.


Only other things that were red were tools that had decayed. It would be a big help if tools displayed condition other than the message you get when cloning telling you how much they've decayed.


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