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Thread: Live Issues Publish 9: Secrets of the Force PT II

Ivemov
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:41 am
#131

I don't normally dev bash, but come on! Jedis without TEF? What were you guys smoking? You got to reinstate the TEF to control the Jedi from taking over the game.


Ivemov
meeuki
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:48 am
#132

the squill caves are FUN. geno is fun. constant mob action is the only way to challenge a upper/mid level group without the rediculous 300k ham mobs.

but

hearing force powers every second you are in there? constantly KS'd?

that's weak and the only people who think it's not have a vested interest in keeping the system the way it is, so they can have more power.

put the TEF back in. it's supposed to be a long hard grind. not a week long excursion to the squill caves with an occasional careful eye out for a BH that likely would miss anything but a noob jedi 95% of the time. nerfing teh squill caves aren't the answer either. more zones should be like that.



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Bukan
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:49 am
#133

You got to reinstate the TEF to control the Jedi from taking over the game.




What does control CM and defstacker from taking over the game ???

i bet that youre a combat medic



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Bukan unlocked after mastering 28 professions
The night before I unlocked some voice whispered to me: "Have to master Bounty Hunter and force with you will be!"
wookgunner
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:49 am
#134

lol The one star baby bandit is hitting all the people who want the Jedi TEF reinstated.


The whole arguement of reinstating the TEF came about because jedi players are:

1. Showing off in cities

2. camping dungeons

3. deliberatly kill stealing


I can accept Jedi whacking away in the wilderness with no TEF. TEF should be gained upon reaching a certain level of visibility. Obviously this would put an end to showing off in starports and running rampant through dungeons where players would contribute the visibility. Additionaly a TEF should not be gained by group members or guild members.


If it were technically possible I would like to see automatic TEF in cities, if force powers and light sabers are used.


Please make jedi robes craftable by tailors. Seeing the same colors combinations is getting a little old. At least composite hasfew different colors.


The goal of many people asking for the TEF to be reinstated is not to ruin the entertainment value of the jedi players, but to keep with the timeline that SWG is set. I dont run around trying to grief players and I sure wasnt obsessive enough to grind professions to open the jedi slot. I already spend enough time in game waiting for shuttles, keeping my business going with craftables, surveying for resources, maintaing harvesters, and the one enjoyable part of talking or hunting with my friends.


I think if we put our heads together there is a compromise that the majority of both sides of the argument can live with.



Nagamitsu: Wookiee Master WS/AS/DE
Triston: Master Swordsman/Rifleman Force sensitive, but will never be a Jedi
Medreka: Master Tailor/architect
Builder of Dar'Xun City, Tatooine and Sierra, Dantooine
eRAZORNew
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:51 am
#135

If would like to know when your customers can expect the character transfer system that you promised to be released along with publish 9.

I am pretty sure I am not the only customer that aches to move his toon to a higher populated server.



eRAZ&R
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KyleKnox
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:54 am
#136






Thunderheart wrote:







12) Jedi Robes not providing enough protection



Lingering Jedi Issue – we are discussing the possibilities.








You guys kill me. Really. Robes PROVIDE NO - REPEAT NO - PROTECTION....You took away our comp AND GAVE US NOTHING TO REPLACE IT, inspite of promises to the contrary. And while your at it, can someone explain to me why a jedi knight robe has IDENTICAL force stats to a Padawan robe?


For new business...The MEGANERF to jedi forceCurePoison and forceCureDisease - HAS TO GO. It takes 4-6+++++ heals to get rid of uber spider poison venom, plus with havla cms are stacking this @#$% NON-STOP. Bring back our one shot cures, like docs. **edit** was this nerfed????


Our LS damage is STILL TOO LOW. A swordsman did TWICE (297 damage) the damage to me in PvP as a DJK master LS (121-148) that was banging on me at the same time - scalp slam versus HH3. So a hammer or tka fist does more damage than a high end LS - IS THAT REALLY THE GAME YOU WANT TO CREATE?



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Force Master
wookgunner
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:55 am
#137






eRAZORNew wrote:
If would like to know when your customers can expect the character transfer system that you promised to be released along with publish 9.

I am pretty sure I am not the only customer that aches to move his toon to a higher populated server.





Or... if they dont fix the jedi TEF then all of us players that dont want to be a jedi or see jedi can move to a server where jedi is not an option or the jedi can move to a wanna be uber server for themselves.



Nagamitsu: Wookiee Master WS/AS/DE
Triston: Master Swordsman/Rifleman Force sensitive, but will never be a Jedi
Medreka: Master Tailor/architect
Builder of Dar'Xun City, Tatooine and Sierra, Dantooine
johnautry613
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:58 am
#138






Thunderheart wrote:






12) Jedi Robes not providing enough protection



Lingering Jedi Issue – we are discussing the possibilities.











12: Thank you for looking into this.


17. For the love of god and all that is holy do not bring this back. It is actually enjoyable to use the jedi in somplace other than the middle of no where.


Before you even entertain this idea, please fix the BHs. They are the counter balance. The point of the TEF was to keep jedio in hiding. Now you have the -200k xp and bounty hunters to hunt them down, once the droids are fixed. That is a counterbalance that is actually 'fun' for the jedi.


My P.S. BTW: Pleaswe make it so a jedi can not dip below 0 exp on a death.



Thanks,




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Bukan
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:59 am
#139

Wookrunner .......

it looks like you dont know how to pvp a jedi, jedis are not UBER, just learn how to pvp



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Bukan unlocked after mastering 28 professions
The night before I unlocked some voice whispered to me: "Have to master Bounty Hunter and force with you will be!"
meeuki
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:00 am
#140

listen to Tank's suggestion for fixing the BH payouts too. it's not fair that we get nerfed because of an unneeded workaround for jedi.

jedi can make up 3 cloned deaths in a single buff session if they are so inclined, it's not a big deal if they get hit with an identical penalty after being ressurected.



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Cafa
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:02 am
#141

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Thunderheart wrote:


Welcome to the Publish 9: Secrets of the Force thread. This thread is for commenting on general live issues, asking questions and reporting known issues. We’ll post this thread once right after a publish and then again mid-way through the process.



We're seperating this from the weekly roundtable discussion so we can give each topic a little more focus. The last Live Issues thread can be found here.



14) Smuggler nerf: This was certainly not intentional and if/when we can put this back the way it was, we will.


25) Multiple reports on player houses / structures disappearing



This is an important issue. I’ve received a bunch of reports but there is no data on this side. If you are still seeing this, please let me know.


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#14 - This is crazy. You report a problem but do not tell us what it is. How do you expect people to check the problem out?


#25 - Having been the direct victim of this all I can say that you have been NON-RESPONSIVE and NON-COMMUNICATIVE as a company, as CSRs, and as TH. It's pretty obvious that something has sped up the clock used for maintenance. It cost me well over 7 months of work and your CSR community told me, "Oh well". That's 7 months of collecting the BEST organic resources to spawn on the Tempest server, all gone. In the real world you'd be facing a suit for damages for CONTINUALLY deleting people's work on every patch update because you, as a company, do not see the need to assure our data's integrity. Lucky you most people would have one hell of a time explain value of little electronic objects to a judge. But since your company continues to not prosecute people selling your "property" with all the credit sales I continue to see you have given those objects real world value so don't cry if it bites you in the tail when you do irritate them enough by deleting a years worth of work and they do take you to a real court. Just my opinion.


What REALLY kills me is that you do not hire people as our help staff that seem to care either. Here's a thought; hire people that want to be CSRs, not people that want to not work and send me canned answers. It's even most obnoxious when they are reading the cue card while your on the phone and their cadence is terrible because they obvious have a hard time reading out loud.


Finally, what has to happen to get you to stop posting with illegal HTML, TH? Is it that hard to hear us tell you for like the ten thousanth time that lithium returns an error when we try to quote you?




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Bukan
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:04 am
#142

meeuki wrote:

jedi can make up 3 cloned deaths in a single buff session if they are so inclined, it's not a big deal if they get hit with an identical penalty after being ressurected.


a single buff session is 3h30mins

just for seconds of getting kicked by a bh team. make this every day and you will be pissed, believe me. some people really have a real live ,)



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Rantjawyk Jedi Knight PVP since 1744

Bukan unlocked after mastering 28 professions
The night before I unlocked some voice whispered to me: "Have to master Bounty Hunter and force with you will be!"
Aljebra424
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:05 am
#143

a couple interesting things happened...


A. monday night, was collecting resources, and placed them in my house. Come find tuesday, my house has way over the limit of items. So, i guess the patch before the hotfix yesterday didnt do a check for structure item limit. So, had to do a lot of reorganizing...


B. Please...find a way to LOCK the icons on the toolbar. This has been irritating since live. sometimes, I know my mouse is near the bar, and I feel like clicking the icon off the hotbar rather than let go of the mouse to use keyshortcuts. Especially during laggy times, an icon will stick to the mouse pointer and drag on top of another icon, and replace it. Very annoying. Its not a gamebreaking issue, I understand...just wanted to put in my feelings here.


C. And lighten up on the vette, so we dont have to bring a jedi or two just to escort us through it.


D. Speaking of...whats going to stop 20 jedi banding together and ripping a base apart? 20 jedi vs 60 imperials means one less base. Doesnt sound very fun, nor Star Warsy to me.


E. The publish was pretty good, thanks



Bor'Anaid, Master Doctor/Master Pistoleer (June 2003 to July 1st,2005)
July 1st, 2005 , a new padawan

Was master doc...NGE master medic, 2 weeks after NGE went commando since I was sick and tired of everyone+mom+sister+dog+dog's baby being a jedi.
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