Development Cycle Archive

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DarkSmyth wrote:

Not flaming.

Please don't put canon and Jedi in the same paragraph unless you are saying "There are no Jedi (except a very few)during this timelineper SWCanon".

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Well, I can't argue with that because you happen to be right.

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Cassiopeia_Suthorn wrote:
"Anchorhead, Coronet, and Moenia will always be Rebel."



And I still don't understand why Dark Jedi's/Sith's are hunted by the Empire, I mean their two leaders are it themselves and at least in the movies Darth Vader and the Emperor went into quite some troubles to pull Luke to the dark side. Wonder why they would do that if they just wanted to kill him. *shrugs* But well no wonder the Empire lost within a few months to some ragtag rebels if they are stupid enough to kill their own best fighters. But then a lot of fairy-tales don't make sense.

Cassie

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Nouveau wrote:

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Calandryll_SOE wrote:

Got a couple more answers from the Dev. Team:

Why are Imperial forces attacking Dark Jedi?
The Empire has a campaign against all Jedi. The soldiers of the Empire have no knowledge of what differences there are between Dark & Light Jedi. There is nothing to indicate that the Emperor and Vader want Dark Jedi around.

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Wait, did I miss something here? The Emperor is/was training Mara Jade to be a Jedi during this time (EU afficionados correct me if I'm wrong) and how about Jerec and his cronies from JK2? Yes, JK2 happens after ROTJ, but all of them had to get their training from somewhere, they didn't just wake up a few years after the Battle of Endor and say 'ooh, I'm going to be a Dark Jedi today.' Perhaps the Emperor and Vader would TOLERATE a Dark Jedi, even though there is no specific correlation. Point taken on the average grunt not knowing the difference however.

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Lorgara wrote:

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FantasticPlastic wrote:

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psikobunny wrote:

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FantasticPlastic wrote:
It sounds good, except who goes to cities on Naboo besides Theed? I mean, who honestly spends time in Keren or Kaadara or whatever? Perhaps people might go to Eisley on Tatooine but really, I wish this affected the major cities like Theed and Coronet because that's where most players actually go.

O.

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The point is, that this will bring people to the cities. As a PvE player, if my planet changed hands, I would gladly work on mop up duty in whatever cities there were, especially since it would add to my side's control of the planet, and make it harder to take back from us.

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I agree that's the good part about it. That is more conceptual though--each faction wants to be able to "claim ownership" of the planet, and so on.

My concern is that if it does not have a practical effect on the cities that actually have people in them, then people won't FEEL the practical effect of the planet's controlling faction.

Who cares if a bunch of NPCs in Keren are Rebel or Imperial? I haven't been to Keren in months.

I'm putting it in extreme terms, I know that people do occasionally have need to go to Keren or Kaadara or what have you, but it seems like it would be better to effect the cities with actual populations like Theed or Coronet.

O.

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I see your point, but let's just hope that the devs continue their streak and this is just a first step to bringing the NPC cities alive... there wasa focus thread about that.

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Kitoth wrote:

So..... are Dark Jedi not allowed to be anywhere near Imperial NPCs anymore? (in the wild, at bases, at the Emperor's Retreat, etc) If any Imperial soldier can scan you and call in reinforcements, I think Dark Jedi just dropped out of the GCW. I can imagine a scenario where a group of Imperials (with Dark Jedi in tow)is defending their base from a rebel attack, when all of a sudden the stormtrooper that had been fighting beside you suddenly says "Hey! Wait! This guy's a jedi! Get him!" and all the Imperial NPCs turn on the players defending the base.

Exactly where and when are imperials going to be looking for jedi?

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Inamalcus wrote:

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DarkSmyth wrote:

Not flaming.

Please don't put canon and Jedi in the same paragraph unless you are saying "There are no Jedi (except a very few)during this timelineper SWCanon".

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Well, I can't argue with that because you happen to be right.

Sony has chosen, however, to allow (significantly) more than a few 'Jedi'.

I'm all for hiding, I like the visibility system (as it pertains to PC's ... I don't see the point of NPC's generating visbility but that's a different discussion).

If these new changes, as they pertain to jedi, are meant to further 'push them into a corner', away from the rest of the players, that there are a few things Sony's missing, IMO.

The empire does keep force users. About as many as there are light side force users actually... No reason to penalize one side more than the other. They seem to be focusing on the 'dark jedi' and forgetting the 'inquisitors'.

As for having NPC's 'scan you as jedi', I just fail to see the point. If I'm being obviously jedi in public the Visibility system will 'handle' me. If I'm not, why should I be forced visible?

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*Phew* So thought that would be taken the wrong way Thanks.

I'll quote myself from this thread a few posts back...

"Well... here's my take on the scanning Jedi thing...

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DarkSmyth wrote:

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Lorgara wrote:

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FantasticPlastic wrote:

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psikobunny wrote:

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FantasticPlastic wrote:
It sounds good, except who goes to cities on Naboo besides Theed? I mean, who honestly spends time in Keren or Kaadara or whatever? Perhaps people might go to Eisley on Tatooine but really, I wish this affected the major cities like Theed and Coronet because that's where most players actually go.

O.

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The point is, that this will bring people to the cities. As a PvE player, if my planet changed hands, I would gladly work on mop up duty in whatever cities there were, especially since it would add to my side's control of the planet, and make it harder to take back from us.

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I agree that's the good part about it. That is more conceptual though--each faction wants to be able to "claim ownership" of the planet, and so on.

My concern is that if it does not have a practical effect on the cities that actually have people in them, then people won't FEEL the practical effect of the planet's controlling faction.

Who cares if a bunch of NPCs in Keren are Rebel or Imperial? I haven't been to Keren in months.

I'm putting it in extreme terms, I know that people do occasionally have need to go to Keren or Kaadara or what have you, but it seems like it would be better to effect the cities with actual populations like Theed or Coronet.

O.

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I see your point, but let's just hope that the devs continue their streak and this is just a first step to bringing the NPC cities alive... there wasa focus thread about that.

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The only real way that will happen is if they make Static Cities into Player Cities... EQ2 style... but thats a whole 'nother can of worms.

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Arialias wrote:

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.....You just gave a few thousand jedi another reason to go to the light side.

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Lorgara wrote:

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DarkSmyth wrote:

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Lorgara wrote:

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FantasticPlastic wrote:

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psikobunny wrote:

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FantasticPlastic wrote:
It sounds good, except who goes to cities on Naboo besides Theed? I mean, who honestly spends time in Keren or Kaadara or whatever? Perhaps people might go to Eisley on Tatooine but really, I wish this affected the major cities like Theed and Coronet because that's where most players actually go.

O.

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The point is, that this will bring people to the cities. As a PvE player, if my planet changed hands, I would gladly work on mop up duty in whatever cities there were, especially since it would add to my side's control of the planet, and make it harder to take back from us.

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I agree that's the good part about it. That is more conceptual though--each faction wants to be able to "claim ownership" of the planet, and so on.

My concern is that if it does not have a practical effect on the cities that actually have people in them, then people won't FEEL the practical effect of the planet's controlling faction.

Who cares if a bunch of NPCs in Keren are Rebel or Imperial? I haven't been to Keren in months.

I'm putting it in extreme terms, I know that people do occasionally have need to go to Keren or Kaadara or what have you, but it seems like it would be better to effect the cities with actual populations like Theed or Coronet.

O.

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I see your point, but let's just hope that the devs continue their streak and this is just a first step to bringing the NPC cities alive... there wasa focus thread about that.

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The only real way that will happen is if they make Static Cities into Player Cities... EQ2 style... but thats a whole 'nother can of worms.

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/agree That would be really cool

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Cassiopeia_Suthorn wrote:


And I still don't understand why Dark Jedi's/Sith's are hunted by the Empire, I mean their two leaders are it themselves and at least in the movies Darth Vader and the Emperor went into quite some troubles to pull Luke to the dark side. Wonder why they would do that if they just wanted to kill him. *shrugs* But well no wonder the Empire lost within a few months to some ragtag rebels if they are stupid enough to kill their own best fighters. But then a lot of fairy-tales don't make sense.

Cassie

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Calandryll_SOE wrote:

Additionally, if a Jedi is scanned s/he runs the risk of being exposed. Should this happen, the police may panic and call for help, bringing a very powerful force on the Jedi. Note that Imperial allied police will call forces to attack any Jedi, regardless of faction. Rebel aligned police will only call guards to attack Dark Jedi.

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Will Jedi have the chance to confuse the police at scans using the Jedi mind trick (wave their hand and make the scanner repeat after them) like they did with imperial crackdown stormtroopers before publish 9?

I really hope so, as it was one heck of a great feature, immersion-wise.