Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Publish 9 Feedback: General Feedback
Jedi Related Issues
XP
A major complaint has been the amount of time it took to get the xp for leveling a jedi in the old system, for example a huurton stalker would yield 400 jedi xp when grouped and the last boxes on Initiate would take 800k xp to complete.Although the amount of Jedi xp per kill has seemed to have doubled so has the amount to complete the boxes across the board basically making the xp gain null and void if not worse.
On Lightsaber XP change to Jedi XP for lightsaber skill.
Why the change?Keeping lightsaber related xp the same as the old system would have been a bright spot to an otherwise crappy patch (insert harsher words for the true feelings of it.)
On Armor and Robes (you knew this was coming.)
Lower level Jedi suck when it comes to defenses hands down.The robes are a joke and offer next to nothing in protection and the only benefits gained is a measly +250 Force Power and +10 Force Regen for a Padawan.Some people say Jedi don’t deserve armor because a Lightsaber master can block 95% of ranged attacks.Well I can see their point, but lets look at the flipside.NOT EVERYONE IS A LIGHTSABER MASTER AND WHILE THE BENEFITS ARE MOSTLY PVP NOT ALL PLAYERS ARE PVP.Basically the game is no longer fun to play as a jedi alone as there are a lot of people who play this game solo because as strong as people claim jedi are, jedi are owned at the lower levels hands down because they can’t properly defend themselves.Remember hate it or not Obiwan wore armor in the Clone Wars cartoons and yes that was a licensed Lucas project.Precedent for armor has been set.And for the person who says “dude who cares it was a cartoon” remember “dude there are no Jedi in Star Wars during this time period either.”
On Fun vs Original Star Wars Storyline.
I have been a huge supporter of sticking with the original timeline which would mean no jedi let alone the mass of jedi walking around in their robes on the servers.Yet lately I have been hearing that a good number of people could care less about the story and just want to have fun (also that some of these same people have never watched the Original Trilogy baffles me to no end yet that is their claim.)So that brings me to why make the game suck for jedi like it has become.We are the only class that loses xp with a death, can go negative on xp as well, have the most insane xp requirements to level, and just like most every other profession has had happen to them .. lack the materials to make the higher generation sabers.We play not with a hand tied behind our back, but basically shackled against a wall it seems.How about a solution?I know devs hate when people offer solutions because that means they will have to work, but that is what the job entails.Save the robes and crap for people who choose Jedi Knight and above on the Force Progression.Anyone under Knight can wear what ever the heck the heck they want.Everyone Knight and above straight up robes.If a knight or above leave their respectful orders they drop down to neutral and gain the same status as those of the lower classes.Then you would give people a choice on destiny yet again.Join an order and work together as a member of a faction or stay neutral and still have a fighting chance to enjoy the game.If not heck just make the xp loss across across the board for all professions so it is justified.People grinding long and hard for FS slots .. they shouldn’t be penalized for it.BTW So much for the 3 death count and then you lose a box and xp.Now it is one and done.Thanks for getting that info out.
Now for something not Jedi related .. Combat Medic.
CM is ruining the game.Having been a real life Combat Medic I can say that a CM’s role is support not uber killing machine that it is now.I can hear it now well this is Star Wars and not real life, but the bases for these professions are grounded in reality.Do I think disease and poison should be removed?No.There is a history of disease as a weapon throughout the ages, but the damages people take from them need to be taken down considerably.
Great move on lowering the BH requirements.
Why not just give BH infinite skill points after making novice so they can have every weapon and special in the game?Honestly that is where the direction seems to be headed.Before some BHs blast me and say they are underpowered let me say I was a BH and I never thought I was underpowered, you just have to know how to play the profession.
Server Issue
Do everyone a favor and turn of rain indefinitely on the environments until Corporate decides to do the right thing and buy new servers worthy of LucasArts and not just use the old hand me downs from Everquest.That is sad, a player base a large as it is, a game title from a company whose head honcho is a pioneer in the technical aspects of media and the company responsible for delivering it to the masses use equipment that seems like it is going to explode on a day to day bases.
These are just the concerns of an SWG player who is not an employee of SOE who has taken the time to talk to people and engage in debate game issues for this post.32 Profs complete with Politician nearly finished (so I have some game knowledge.)
So anyhow the devs are hard at work fixing these problems, right? Noooo, they are enhancing the Jedi profession. The only thing wrong with the jedi profession was that they didn't have the AP to get master. Nooo, they are working on making an expansion so they can make more money for a company thay really really need money. lol. There has only been one publish in the last YEAR that was actually for a prefession in need (Droid Engineer) and they bungled that so bad they had to make a second publish after the first to actually do the job right. Then look at the smuggler profession revamp... pushed back out of the way so they can enhance the jedi system again. OMG if you really look over the whole game and look forward to what is coming up they have NO plans to fix anything profession beyond smuggler (at some unknown point in time). This does not even deal with the other actual glitches like the force powers and lightsabers for NPCs. I seriously don't understand how this can be out for so long. I don't know anything really about programming but it was in the game and then it just left may months back. How hard can it be to just put it back in?? CMs? Well it looks like they are working on balancing that out and hopefully the issues with CM/rifleman, def stackers, and jedi will be balanced in the GCW publish coming up soon. *crosses fingers* The xp glitch was supposed to be fixed but it still happens all the time. Seems like an easy thing to fix but who knows. Carbineer, Pistoleer, and Commando definitely need a publish dedicated to them to fix everything. I mean pistoleer has like what 4 working specials of which 2 are of dubious usefulness. Carbineer lol, this profession is next to pistoleer in pointlessness. It has maybe 5 working specials also. Of which only the charge shots seems to be of any real use. The others are ok but other professions do them better. Commando work fairly well for the most part except that our skill enhancing attachments don't work, grenades and disposable weapons are pointless along with the acid rifle. The only good parts of commando are the flame thrower and launcher pistol, which are admittedly very nice and usefull. Unfortunatly the flame thrower misses over 50% of the time even at master and the launcer pistol is pointless unless you are a pistoleer becuase YOU GET NO SKILL MODS TO USE WITH IT.
All in all, I do have a lot of fun in the game. But seeing the devs not working on issues that have been known a year ago while they are working on ways to make more money does make me angry. It should make anyone angry. It is not about being immature or a whiner. It's about basic common sense that the game should be fully functional before they basically add a new game (JTL) to it!The devs are obviously not going to be spending a lot of time on the ground game after JTL goes live. To all the people that say they have no issues with the game. HAH! Good luck with the game and playing your flavor of the month profession, while those of us with the broken professions struggle on against people like you. You are the reason games are broken. Becuase game companies know people like you will play and pay them money until everyone leaves and then you will quit and move on to their next broken game. Good luck with that, 'cause they love you!
PS. If you are rebel too that means you took the easy route there too. Going with the side that has a 2:1 ratio advantage and that the devs obviously favor becuase with a 2:1 ratio advantage that also means a 2:1 cash flow advantage. How 'bout that? Oh wait lets review on how many people want to be a jedi... hmmm.... looks like about 54% of the people playing this game want it easier to be a jedi. I wonder what that means to SOE? 54% of our cash flow wants us to make it easy to be a jedi, which means they want to be jedi, which means they want to have jedi be the best and easiest thing to do. I don't blame them for thinking that way because that is the way business is done. It's just too bad and sad though.
I'm sure you won't read this and/or think about it but I know some people will and maybe even 1 or more of SOE's people. Who knows? I can hope. *crosses fingers again*
Again I love this game and really, really would like to see it all fixed and running completely smoothly before any expansions are released.
I'm used to a system that factors in my current status and then selects appropriateflags for my character. Such as: solo/group? Rank? Location? Storyline? CoH does this and then assigns me a mission based on all that---a doable mission that is challenging and usually, rewarding. Your mission system completely ignores all this---especially your NPC Quest system. Still, months later, I take a quest/mission travel out into the wilds only to be confronted with groups of red-con enemies. Completely undoable (unless of course I go in for various buffs and so forth). Is there any hope your mission/quest system can change? Now, when the FS/Jedi thingie comes fully online, perhaps things will be different. Perhaps I won't have to go out and hunt animals any longer? This is very important for me. Note, also, that your 'story arcs' for random missions needs work, as well.
one more chance .since now we know what works, to redo there jedi's.