Development Cycle Archive
Thread: The Path of the Jedi: Reckoning of Effort
ReekoShan
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:25 am
#1379
good point i guess after 3 days if no on gets talked to all hell will certainly break apon SOE
Merc-utio
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:26 am
#1380
Ok, well i couldnt be bothered to read all 62 pages of this thread. Then again i dont think i needed to.
I managed to grin 19 proffessions (9 of them i worked my ass off to get in the last week of pub 9) to try to either unlock my account or gain as much credit as possible. Obviously i didnt make it so i thought screw it BE looks kool, ill just go for pub 10. The fact that the devs screwed everyone over with the whole "as more people unlocked we thought we'd thought we'd make it harder for new people to"(Giving an unfair advantage to those who unlocked earlier which is a bunch of crap, everyone should have the same chance. the fact the devs screwed up the system and made it to easy is *their* fault.) Should have given me a reason to kick and scream the little corner of the room where my desktop is located, down. It didnt and i can accept the fact that a wire brush is being placed firmly up my ass by the devs.
However, i have a guild mate. He worked his ass off, beat your whole 8 holocron crap and got the message "Your force sensative abilities will be unlocked at Publish 10". He and the rest of the guild anticipated our first jedi for the next month.... 5 of us waited without sleep in anticipation for Starsider to load up and Publish 10 to go live...
Low and behold he loaded in, and he had jack. What a piece of crap, honestly! Now after all the grinding he did, 30 proffessions all that time... just so he now has the chance to wait for an Old **edit** to turn up and say "Hey Buddy, Now you get to go grind another 110 million xp to get your padawan." Sick stuff, You guys had better pull something outa the bag for JTL or sort this whole BS out.
Matrix Online is out in November, i'll be pre-ordering my copy soon and i would advise everyone to do the same (as it looks bad ass in the trailers). As for SWG, well lets just see how this bio-engineer thing goes...
Morath360
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:28 am
#1381
Ok, here is how I understand it. I'm glowy but not a holo grinder. Holo grinders get not only trees unlocked and done for them but they also get 1st shot at the old man based on how close they are to unlocking.
I understand now that test center had real problems with only 500 to 1000 people hiting the village at the same time. Hence we have a gated approach.
The Problem:
1) It is obvious that the expectations were never set for this. No warning on TC nothing. If TH would have at least said something about the gated approach just 24hrs earlier, it would have helped with people taking off work etc.
2) Nebulous answers. It took me about an hour of talking with guildies who spent the time on TC to finally understand what is probably gonna happen with this gating and why it was necessary.
3) I am on Bria, a very busy server. Do they think the traffic is ever going to be low enough? Once a person has access, are you gonna monitor who is just in there dancing and hanging out and then kick them. This to me isnt very logical. Wouldn't a better approach have been to have multiple villiages on diff planets and past different server lines?
For what its worth..
I understand now that test center had real problems with only 500 to 1000 people hiting the village at the same time. Hence we have a gated approach.
The Problem:
1) It is obvious that the expectations were never set for this. No warning on TC nothing. If TH would have at least said something about the gated approach just 24hrs earlier, it would have helped with people taking off work etc.
2) Nebulous answers. It took me about an hour of talking with guildies who spent the time on TC to finally understand what is probably gonna happen with this gating and why it was necessary.
3) I am on Bria, a very busy server. Do they think the traffic is ever going to be low enough? Once a person has access, are you gonna monitor who is just in there dancing and hanging out and then kick them. This to me isnt very logical. Wouldn't a better approach have been to have multiple villiages on diff planets and past different server lines?
For what its worth..
Wyro
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:29 am
#1382
TH, ive spent about 8 hours in the wilderness since the patch went live, i unlocked post publish9 on 29 professions...how much longer am i gnna have to wait (im waiting around 2km from any town i go to)
Sesik
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:30 am
#1383
BEENdover wrote:
The Devs ARE doing their job. Their job is to keep you paying 15 dollars a month and thats exactly what they did. They know that none of you are going through on your threats to cancel your accounts and are now forced to wait for months to visit the villiage. Of course they could have made more villiages to handle the lag, or done other things. THIS IS ALL JUST A WAY TO KEEP YOUR MONEY COMING.
NICE JOB DEVS
I cancelled my account last night. They waited to the last possible minute to tell us A. they raised the prof cap and B. that no matter what after doing 4 holo prof and 10 others on top of that, there is a 70 or 80% chance I wont be allowed into the village this week...worst case scenario I wont be going in till group 3 does. Now they wont even give us a time table on those groups...just when it dies down....That is not OK wiht me.
iver2435
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:34 am
#1384
Merc-utio wrote:Now after all the grinding he did, 30 proffessions all that time... just so he now has the chance to wait for an Old **edit** to turn up and say "Hey Buddy, Now you get to go grind another 110 million xp to get your padawan."
He gets credit and he won't have to grind xp, just be visited by the old man and then train in his FS skills. He will be a Jedi long before a majority of people will.
Gunsimith
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:36 am
#1385
first day : nobody visited by oldman
2nd day: still nobody visited by him
3rd day: nobody ll be visited by him
i hope this oldman ll work otherwise they ll loose so many customers,
i mastered 31 profs
i unlocked 22 agust with image design (prof # 31)
i ve 80 badge
i m inner glow, force is with me ( i dont think so !)
and m waiting oldman from beging of the pub 10
darthrotten
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:38 am
#1386
iver2435 wrote:
Merc-utio wrote:
Now after all the grinding he did, 30 proffessions all that time... just so he now has the chance to wait for an Old **edit** to turn up and say "Hey Buddy, Now you get to go grind another 110 million xp to get your padawan."
He gets credit and he won't have to grind xp, just be visited by the old man and then train in his FS skills. He will be a Jedi long before a majority of people will.
There's just that prickly issue of the old man who isn't visiting anybody.
dWhisper
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:39 am
#1387
Thunderheart wrote:
Hollyrosie wrote:
TH if i automaticly qualify - where is my Old Man?
Just go about your business and he will visit you in a day or so
Funny you should say that. Prior to this publish, my "business" had been not playing Star Wars Galaxies because it was empty of content and not stimulating me to play in any real form. I've been on it since Beta 3, and that's sad.
Since I wasn't unlocked before, and I was only listing as strong, even with 21 professions mastered and other content done, I finished up Nyms and the Warren, now I have to wait 3 days. Returning to my business will mean not logging in to the game.
I am not intending this to sound like a bash, or a threat, or anything of the sort. I've long supported SWG and the devs, you can go through my message history and have seen it. But simple math revealed to me that World of Warcraft comes out before the Combat Balance at this point, and that game is gathering positive reviews. Since I'm not a Rifleman, I can't enjoy any of the high-end content in this particular game, and the only thing I was waiting for was the village. Sadly, I don't even want a jedi, just a second character slot and the slick little FS bonuses.
However, you told me to go back to my business, so I guess I won't bother with this. Don't take this as a "fix the game or else." It's much more of a "You guys are understaffed and overworked, and I've lost all faith in the game ever living up to its potential."
I understand the Catch-22 you are in at this point. This entire thread is two groups of people yelling about the same outcome. Hologrinders are unhappy because they aren't in. They played more, but most never took time to stop and enjoy the game. The game players are unhappy because they stopped to enjoy the game, but have to wait for the hologrinders to get done first. This particular patched changed the "loud yet small minority" into the vast portion of your player base being loud and unhappy.
Makare
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:40 am
#1388
What is the point of going to a new system when it is based on the old system. I have been playing this game since day 1 and this new jedi system is what was promised in the first place. Hologrinding ruined the game. I am personally sick of the dev's serving the vocal majority whichare just a bunch of whiners. There are a large portion of players that never post here and are never heard. The fact is this game wasnt ready for release and we have been all paying for beta 4. The devs panic at every turn and seem to only listen to those that cry the most. What about those of us who role play? This is a role playing game but now its filled with a bunch of L33t retards that wouldnt know how to RP if there life depended on it. Nice...
CrazedSleepwalker
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:42 am
#1389
iver2435 wrote:
Merc-utio wrote:
Now after all the grinding he did, 30 proffessions all that time... just so he now has the chance to wait for an Old **edit** to turn up and say "Hey Buddy, Now you get to go grind another 110 million xp to get your padawan."
He gets credit and he won't have to grind xp, just be visited by the old man and then train in his FS skills. He will be a Jedi long before a majority of people will.
your point?
I think Merc-utio should get his jedi right away.
Are you thinking he should not be ahead of majority of people with the 30 professions he grinded?
Tactical_Dave
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:42 am
#1390
TH said, "When enough people have completed their path, we will open it up the village to the next group. Groups 1 – 4 will qualify for a visit when the village traffic has died down."
What traffic?!I have yet to hear of anyone getting into the Village on Shadowfire. I was on for severalhours yesterday, keeping in communication with my guildies and other obvious post-9 unlockers who were wandering in the wilderness last night (literally and figuratively). Ironically, I was able to find the moisture farmer on Tatooine and finally get my Altruism badge. I think I'll head over to the official site to look for more answers from the devs...
/puts on BS-resistant armor and logs into starwarsgalaxies.com
Hertzzzz
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:43 am
#1391
Glowy, inner glowe, surge, faint etc... 5 holos proffs... raise to 8 holos proffs.... OUCH!!!! For myself, i think each player should deserve the chance to try a jedi! I think whit a specific system, a to big amount of player will try to get the jedi! So it should be a one by one turn whit a specific limit! And when a jedi die(lol), so die for good!!!! and give the chance to the next on the listand for those who die just wait until your next turn!!! I think the glowy system would be good! the nearest you are(barely, faint, surge, inner glow, and glowy could give a good idea off when your turn come!(just a thought)
Since yesterday all off this turn into a symphonie of destruction...
Jin-Yo (Bria)
Master commando (holo)
Master tera kasi
Master Marksman
smuggler (holo)
Weaponsmith (holo)
Brawler
Pistoleer
And still waiting for a fair system....