Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Post Fan Fest response concerning Jedi Conversion.
Felisconcolori
Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:26 pm
#118
You said...
I totally agree with you. In fact I have 2 accounts & was thinking of making a light & dark jedi & letting one kill ther other LOL. Think you should not be able to kill same jedi twice in a row. If so a ranked jedi could just totally pick on a lower one until they had no skills left hehe. My main concern is when loading onto another planet overt. Many more Jedi are going to be overt 100% & just traveling on a shuttle is going to be dangerous. Think they should make it so that you (anyone jedi or not) should not be able to be attacked until they move say 5m. This would take away the ability of all those campers who just sit at theed & wait for a declaired toon to load in. Have been killed several times this way. Half the time my character is dead before I'm even done loading. Is sad when ya take a shuttle & find yourself dead after you have loaded. Never complained before but as a soon to be Overt Jedi dont think will be traveling much anymore.... Just a thought.
Now, let's expand on that thought a little more... Okay, so you are loading into the starport. You get shot. You die. Okay, you clone. Into the nearest cloning center. Where, for example, Theed, the guy that camped you at the starport is now waiting for you to wake up. (It's a short jog.)
Permanent Overt is an interesting idea, but it is going to make moving around very tough on Jedi. Thank goodness Jump to Lightspeed is coming out so that you Jedi out there can get a ship and fly your own selves around.
Whee.
--Felisconcolori, nay, Catman Dewback of Kettemoor
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Jediforcefighter
Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:29 pm
#119
NaughtyByNature wrote:
I totally agree with you. In fact I have 2 accounts & was thinking of making a light & dark jedi & letting one kill ther other LOL. Think you should not be able to kill same jedi twice in a row. If so a ranked jedi could just totally pick on a lower one until they had no skills left hehe. My main concern is when loading onto another planet overt. Many more Jedi are going to be overt 100% & just traveling on a shuttle is going to be dangerous. Think they should make it so that you (anyone jedi or not) should not be able to be attacked until they move say 5m. This would take away the ability of all those campers who just sit at theed & wait for a declaired toon to load in. Have been killed several times this way. Half the time my character is dead before I'm even done loading. Is sad when ya take a shuttle & find yourself dead after you have loaded. Never complained before but as a soon to be Overt Jedi dont think will be traveling much anymore.... Just a thought.
That's a good idea, because if you're going to be permanently overt, you shouldn't have to get killed everytime you take the shuttle or starport because the people at the other end take advantage of your absence.
Eywe
Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:10 pm
#120
Well I'll throw my 2 cents worth in here, not that it matters to anyone but me, but here goes. I would like to see permadeath again for the Jedi....I saw 4, yes 4, Jedi knights at once outside Theed starport running around having a good ole time and killing anyone overt they saw, disrupting the merchants and docs that where doing business and just being goofs while not being scratched by anyone....I really dont care if everyone wants to bea jedi, or becomes one (I dont want to be one) but at least make them stay hidden or this becomes Jedi Knights game and nothing else.....also with this new FS stuff coming I fear that it will ruin the current crafters and any new crafters because you'll have to have Force crafting and Force this and Force that to even compete...The skill tree system is already messed up as it is...look at the BH....you spend all those points to become it and your not even that good at anything lol....I am hoping they will try to make this game a little more tailored for the mature audience instead of the 12yr old "I want it now and want to be the best of everything crowd". When this game came out it was exciting even with the bugs...going hunting on Dathomir was a big deal as you had to walk everywhere, cities like tyrena were neat because crowds hung out there and socialized and role played, Jedi where at first unknown and then eventually you might see 1 here or there but only for a brief time as they would hide mainly and it was great.....now Jedi everywhere and if you want to do pvp you have to be one now or lose...wonder why in the series it said the Jedi feared the tera kasi order yet here they only fear the devs 
Phhantom
Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:29 am
#121
Keldarin
What's going to happen to the people that have USELESS RPG characters atm.. Who have unlocked or are 25+ professions.. Plus can't level in a Roleplayer based advancment game? I can't find anything concrete on this.. Are we just going to get SCREWED???????
I think we deserve an answer already... Thunderheart has not answered this question... You all give all these great interviews and such.. But fail to mention how you blocking advancement on RPG by making people wait til publish 10 to beable to level there Jedis....
Phhantom
Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:49 pm
#122
AN ANSWER WOULD BE NICE ALREADY!!!!! YOU DEVS POSTING ON OTHER TOPICS!!! POST ON THE COMMENT I WROTE ABOVE THIS POST.....
YOU want us to take a POLL, YET you have not told us if 25+ Professions are gettign screwed or not.... The only way to get an answer out of you all is to go PUBLIC??
MAYBE I AM BLIND!!! IF YOU SOE DEV'sADDRESSED THIS WITH MORE THEN ONE SENTANCE, PLEASE POST A LINK!!!
Message Edited by Phhantom on 07-11-2004 04:51 PM
skywalker35
Tue Jul 13, 2004 5:24 am
#123
I have a question i have worked hard to get to jedi and i have mastered the last holo and i dont get crap it says i have to seek out jedi on my own. but when i visit the trainers the dont accknowledge me so now with this new publish as you call it all my hard work to get jedi is now gone. I was 30,000 exp away from mastering my last holo to open the slot which i completed but now i have nothing. So the question is if I was only 30,000 exp away from opening the slot which has been completed what will happen when publish 10 comes out do i have to do another 1 yr or 2 of quest and missons to make jedi i think thats completely unfair to those of us that was there bye a little exp.
John-WaGinn
Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:42 am
#125
I'm not sure about anyone else but I've put in a ton of time and money and have gotten nowhere in this game.........Other then the friends I've made I am still very upset at how slow this game moves. I went from a master Marksman in my first 20 days into the game to a master scout in the same 20 days and am still a Bounty Hunter lev 1-0-1-0 and have been for the past 6 months. Give me a brake I'ts not fun getting tied down to running missions where 90% of the mission is spent traveling from planet to planet for next to no XP. I was trying to become a jedi but after reading these posts I have given up any hope at that. Thanks for a great game that I'm fed up with.
If a bounty hunter takes this long to lev how long does it take for a jedi? I love games but I'm looking to move on to something more rewarding, as far as games go you have to keep your gamers happy. You're really not doing a bang up job at that.
I hope you don't think I'm just one person who feels this way, I have spoken to most of my in game friends and we all agree this game has lost us.
LostSoul54
Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:28 am
#126
The thing i want to know the most about the conversion is when the expansion comes out will jedi be able to fly faction ships. Like will dark jedi be able to fly imp ships and light jedi reb ships.
Midros
Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:40 pm
#127
My impression- astonishment that 10% of the population was put before the other 90% to bring them a Jedi revamp while PvP and the GCW rot.
sc24evr
Wed Jul 28, 2004 6:57 am
#128
im not sure if this has been posted already, but when is the new publich supposed to come out?! thank you
acidback
Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:49 pm
#129
Im glad to see you jedi complaining about the revamp. I have done 25 professions and no unlock so I have no sempathy for any of you. This game is so unbalanced its a joke. I know many who have quite this game and more will dont worry soon It will just be 50 jedi hunting each other down, after all the deva's like to take the most affective weapons away from us or make them so rare you'll never see one in your starwars galaxies life.
KyleKnox
Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:18 pm
#130
Why are we losing half a tree? why are we know capped at 2.5 trees instead of the 3 we have now? Why am I losing 9 skill boxes and over 20 skills as a 4444 guardian?
ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, PLEASE. The asnwer has to be you want WEAKER jedi. Well guess what, I didnt spend 3 months grinding 24 professions and 4+ months getting to guardian 4444 to be nerfed by a bunch by devs that cant even speak the PLAIN TRUTH. NOW, my 4444 guardian can easily be killed by ONE template. I takes me 4 days of grinding to make that template. IT TOOK ME 7 MONTHS TOTAL for my jedi. So is my current guardian OVERPOWERED? You must think so, since you are nerfing him.
And if you think your new system is gonna create diversity you're ignorant of this game you claim to be designing. There are certain survival skills. LS is the only effective way to level. So every jedi will have some of those skills. Healing is a must. As is cure poison/disease if you expect to survive any PvP. We call these the core skills. And we have to have defenses. Now I am damn near out of skill points thanks to your f'd up system. You havent created diversity - all you have done is create WEAKER JEDI and screwed me out of my work and skills that I HAVE NOW.
Dont piss on my back and tell me its raining.
And Arjun are you actually gonna tow the party line and chirp that one of the best things about this revamp is non-jedi skills....how about this....lets just see that jedihave as manyJEDI SKILLS BEFORE THE CONVERSION AS AFTER THE CONVERSION andalmost everyonewill be HAPPY - thats fair. Got it? Is that so damn hard to understand? Thats why people want box for box because at least that will get us close.
Actually this is like a damn greek tragedy. We have access to more skills, but we cant even acquire all of the old ones we had, much less incroporate any of the new ones. You have increased the amount of time to grind the PvE portion, but characters will have FEWER skills after a longer grind. UNBELIEVABLE.
I honestly dont understanddevthinking here. Please explain it to me. It doent resemble standard Earth logic.