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Thread: Can't Buff Ourselves Dev Response
PoetDancer wrote:
Esharra wrote:
Heh..no..but I Can imagine them all clammering to be able to get it for free.
Does this mean what I think it means?
haha..NO. No the devs are not considering dropping our skill point req. Considering that is probably the worst possible scenario that could be misconstrued from what I posted above and your tendency lately to dive right in for the doom & gloom..I'm guessing that's what you're driving at.
Esharra wrote:
Considering that is probably the worst possible scenario that could be misconstrued from what I posted above and your tendency lately to dive right in for the doom & gloom..I'm guessing that's what you're driving at.
Thank you dear, I needed a good laugh.
In fact, I think I'll change my signature.
REPENT! The End Is Nigh!!!
Do I make a good "prophetess of doom?"
PoetDancer wrote:
I came away with tips, Dejah. Why on Corellia would they tip me good credits, if they could get everything I had to give for free? I couldn't give healing. I just gave a show. They took the healing from my show. But that rot was free. They never had to tip for that. But yet, they tipped anyway. Why?
Because they'd rather see me in the cantina, then out doing other things. They could have just walked away, and not give me anything. But they didn't, did they? They gave me credits because they could have /watched any old unattended LAMer to heal their BF for free. But they chose to pay me--not because I clicked on some window when they asked--but because they wanted to tip me, for no other reason than I was a good performer, that deserved it.
But inspiration buffs doesn't stop people who enjoy your performance from tipping. I walk away with tips as well. A good dancer is still a good dancer even with inspiration buffing. I don't charge for inspiration buffing. I people chose to tip me for helping them. Just like they chose to tip me for healing their BF or soothing their mind wounds. Because someone asks of me "Goldy can I have a BE inspiration" doesn't make the performance bad. My routine doesn't turn to crap because I typed /inspire. A good dancer now is the same good dancer last Tuesday. Someone who puts time into their routine, someone who greets and socializes with her audience.
Wonderful idea to move them up the chain. I remember a while ago we could not do certain things until we were in the bubble of experience. why not put buffing ourselves in one of the boxes.. like maybe even under master?
phyre
Caerwynn wrote:
Esharra, have you gathered enough useful arguments to take back to the devs? If so could you post them for us to see what sort of angle you are coming from?
Only Ka'va and I have mentioned about the usefulness of a hybrid in being able to inspire as well help in a group when hunting. Obviously this is not the only reason for arguing for self buff rights, but pretty fundamental to our playing style. It's no fun to be stuck in the wilds of Yavin, everyone else merrily getting bonus xp and the very ones who have enabled that get none.
I spoke with another entertainer last night who had gone out with a couple groups just so the hybrid could get buffed. She said while she didn't mind it because she wanted to support other entertainers, she felt as though taking up a valuable slot in the group. I'm all about some grouping with support classes, but it really is silly to have to take two entertainers.
And just to clarify, there's a huge diffrenence between a "hybrid" and a "dabbler." A hybrid is committed tomultiple professions from two or more starting classes. A dabbler just picks enough to get a couple skills they want and never does anything with it. While I keep a combat class, I have far more skills in entertainer than I ever will in combat. As a roleplayer, it's like they're telling me that I can't play my character this way. The Yavin example is great and hits the issue that we have to bring two entertainers if the fighting entertainer wants a buff.
So Caerwynn, I empathize. Hybrids unite!
Esharra, have you gathered enough useful arguments to take back to the devs? If so could you post them for us to see what sort of angle you are coming from?
Only Ka'va and I have mentioned about the usefulness of a hybrid in being able to inspire as well help in a group when hunting. Obviously this is not the only reason for arguing for self buff rights, but pretty fundamental to our playing style. It's no fun to be stuck in the wilds of Yavin, everyone else merrily getting bonus xp and the very ones who have enabled that get none.
Okay, I just got back after two weeks of business trip without internet and I come back to a completely different game...again.
Most changes I can live with, I am pretty easy going but the loss of self buffing has actually made me really angry. What makes me even more angry was reading that this was done because 'entertainers do not inspire themselves.'
huh????
Okay I am in real life a profesional artist, writer and dancer. I can tell you this. Artists of all kinds inspire themselves EVERY SINGLE DAY! Where do people think inspiration comes from? I certainly don't run out of my house on a daily basis and ask people to watch me dance so I can gather ideas for my book or my next painting. I have never heard such a crock in my life. I could understand it if the line was because the code won't allow self buffing or some such excuse but that entertainers don't inspire themselves?????? *shakes head*So now while I can inspire my friends and my hunting group I cannot do anything for my self and as a split template ( master dancer master TKA) that leaves me sort of screwed, since I am not travelling all over hells half acre to find someone to buff me and make evenryone else wait. It is ridiculous.
I am slowly starting to lose patience with this nonsense of swapping things and removing skills and doing stuff to templates without any so much as a by your leave. Can someone please fix this.!!!!
Thankyou.
I believed interdependancy was achieved for entertainers when dancers and musicians are looking for new outfits, so giving work to tailors, when musicians and dancers are looking for ressources to craft props and instruments so giving work to ressources sellers.
Of course, that's not a lot of money and no one is forced to look good to perform but that's how the system ever worked.
If a patron doesn't care to look at a jerk dancing, that's the patron problem, not entertainer's. We can't force someone to look us if we invested into clothing. We just hope, we never had any form of control over that.
I believed interdependancy was achieved when an entertainer wanted to have his or her own cantina, so giving work to architects, then needed to have furnitures.
I believed interdependancy was achieved when you wanted to decorate your cantina or theater with looted items, so giving work to combat players.
I believed interdependancy was achieved when a performer is in need of a visual effect droid, or a playback droid, so giving work to droid engineers.
What can we gain by trying to be totally autonomous ? A Master title ? To do what, generateVFX in our dark lone corner ?The essence and nature of the profession is to wait for us to be social as nothing in the game mechanics forces us to be.
Me and a guildie went to MO to start a grind group and first went to get inspiration buff, now Mining outpost on dantooine is home to the AFK ent its packed full of them. I danced for the guildie but due to not being able to self buff i then was forced to watch/listen to AFK players.
We then went out grinding and after a while insp buffs ran out and it was either i sort a camp and buff the group then head back to MO for my own and the group wont wait for me or we all go back to MO and rebuff from the AFKers.
Add back in self buffing and make the standard buff not be AFKable.
The buffs were supposed to be content for us not everyone else so why does it seem that our in game lives have been made worse by their addition?
Message Edited by Oblox on 09-05-2005 01:09 PM
