Dancer Archive
Thread: Is this it?
Ikewe wrote:
ChaoKuang wrote:
Those problems are in the works. They're already working on recursive macros,
The problem is that I don't know that they are still in the works. I've not heard one word to indicate that is still the case. Believe me I want to be happy about this profession. I have stayed with it through all the pain because I could see the potential for it. But given the numbers on my server it's getting harder and harder to do that. I'll accept that these things take time. I'll accept that we won't get all of our issues addressed in one sweeping fix. But I need Tiggs to say "we are still working to remove AFKtainers." Just that. No promise of a date. No details on how it will be done. I just need that little phrase so I can have the hope for the future that you have. I don't think that's asking too much. It has been the top issue for as long as I can remember and it becomes more and more urgent every day. Would it really be so hard for them to tell us the problem is still being addressed? One simple post would make such a huge difference for so many. I know you are tired of the "negativity". Believe me those of us who are unhappy are probably even more tired of it than you can ever be. But telling fellow entertainers to "just leave" accomplishes what exactly? Let's at least try to support each other rather than work to make our numbers dwindle even further.
cheers,
Ikewe
I also posted in the In Dev thread asking for clarification on the new songs and dances. I am hoping that they are tied to the music/dance knowledge trees, and not to performing a quest and stockpiling a huge amount of experience, like Theatrical and Western were. No dev response yet (what a shock! ha ha!).
And as far as motion capture for the dances - they have had this stuff for a long time. You can easily see that the "tumble" dance is actually something that was captured long ago (October 2003 I believe) for use in the acrobat profession that never got implemented.
Drygo wrote:Dangit...in the post I made, I forgot to add something I said in the first post that got eaten.Anyone else notice this:Removal of the timers for Body and Cosmetic changes for Image Designers (this is done in preparation for the Combat Upgrade)What exactly does being able to put on lipstick instantaneously have to do with combat?
I'm sorry, but when your lipstick clashes with your armor before you're about to head off into battle, that 1 minute timer might as well be an eternity.
DanceRulez wrote:
Drygo wrote:
Dangit...in the post I made, I forgot to add something I said in the first post that got eaten.
Anyone else notice this:
Removal of the timers for Body and Cosmetic changes for Image Designers (this is done in preparation for the Combat Upgrade)
What exactly does being able to put on lipstick instantaneously have to do with combat?
I'm sorry, but when your lipstick clashes with your armor before you're about to head off into battle, that 1 minute timer might as well be an eternity.
ROFL...oh ok, that explains everything.
Drygo wrote:
Dangit...in thepost I made, I forgot to add something I said in the first post that got eaten.
Anyone else notice this:
Removal of the timers for Body and Cosmetic changes for Image Designers (this is done in preparation for the Combat Upgrade)
What exactly does being able to put on lipstick instantaneously have to do with combat?
I'm telling you... ID will be THE new FotM after the CU. /areaeyeshadow and /forcelipstick2 are gonna be LETHAL!
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Message Edited by SFXGenesis on 03-11-2005 10:49 PM
Eaca wrote:
No other profession or set of professions is so broke that 90% of the playing customers online at any one given time is AFK, because that's the best and nearing only way to do it. Entertainer is in a realm beyond broken.
True instead you simply can't find any one from the other broken professions online. The reason you see so many entertainers at all is because it can be automated. It doesn't make us more broken simply easier to master without having to deal with the warts.
Lighten up folks sheesh. The promise was for exciting things for entertainers, well thats pretty exciting news. No one promised you word of a revamp or that they would announce the end of AFK. They did what they promised and personally I'm happy to see that Imaji won't be falling or flailing and I can switch instruments with little to no interuption in my performance.
Add to the fixes 2 new songs and woohoo thats an exciting announcement. Improvements and fixes to current content along with some new content. Not bad.
If you think a profit based company is going to expend the effort on code fixes that they have been expending just so they can quiet you down until they remove the profession then you really don't understand theROI (return on investment) processa corporation lives and dies by.
Does this mean I like the news that was posted in the other threads about considering us purely in terms of supporting the combat players, no it doesn't. I hate the direction that implies. However improving the game we already create on our own will still improve my play time. I will have more songs to work from and Imaji's will have more dances to coordinate with my songs. Also our performances, even of the current songs and dances just got alot better.
I saw the changes and went "Squee! NEW STUFF!"
And I choose to see it as a Good Sign and that they are paying attention to us. There are a lot of good things coming in, this is just the start.
Groovymarlin wrote:
"The problem boils down to whether you have hope or fear about the future of the profession. If you are still hopeful then this announcement is nothing but good news. If you are not, then these changes are simply the pillow they give you to kneel on before they chop your head off."
Exactly. Some of us have very good reasons to have more fear than hope. Unfortunately there's also an NDA in effect that prevents enumerating those reasons. So ease up on those of us who aren't exactly dancing on air over this announcement.
Good things? For now, yes. But not enough for the long term. Not nearly enough.
QFE
Message Edited by DarkY0da on 03-11-2005 03:44 PM
LyteFoot wrote:
Eaca wrote:
No other profession or set of professions is so broke that 90% of the playing customers online at any one given time is AFK, because that's the best and nearing only way to do it. Entertainer is in a realm beyond broken.
True instead you simply can't find any one from the other broken professions online. The reason you see so many entertainers at all is because it can be automated. It doesn't make us more broken simply easier to master without having to deal with the warts.
Lighten up folks sheesh. The promise was for exciting things for entertainers, well thats pretty exciting news. No one promised you word of a revamp or that they would announce the end of AFK. They did what they promised and personally I'm happy to see that Imaji won't be falling or flailing and I can switch instruments with little to no interuption in my performance.
Add to the fixes 2 new songs and woohoo thats an exciting announcement. Improvements and fixes to current content along with some new content. Not bad.
If you think a profit based company is going to expend the effort on code fixes that they have been expending just so they can quiet you down until they remove the profession then you really don't understand theROI (return on investment) processa corporation lives and dies by.
Does this mean I like the news that was posted in the other threads about considering us purely in terms of supporting the combat players, no it doesn't. I hate the direction that implies. However improving the game we already create on our own will still improve my play time. I will have more songs to work from and Imaji's will have more dances to coordinate with my songs. Also our performances, even of the current songs and dances just got alot better.
Eaca wrote:
LyteFoot wrote:
Eaca wrote:
No other profession or set of professions is so broke that 90% of the playing customers online at any one given time is AFK, because that's the best and nearing only way to do it. Entertainer is in a realm beyond broken.
True instead you simply can't find any one from the other broken professions online. The reason you see so many entertainers at all is because it can be automated. It doesn't make us more broken simply easier to master without having to deal with the warts.
Lighten up folks sheesh. The promise was for exciting things for entertainers, well thats pretty exciting news. No one promised you word of a revamp or that they would announce the end of AFK. They did what they promised and personally I'm happy to see that Imaji won't be falling or flailing and I can switch instruments with little to no interuption in my performance.
Add to the fixes 2 new songs and woohoo thats an exciting announcement. Improvements and fixes to current content along with some new content. Not bad.
If you think a profit based company is going to expend the effort on code fixes that they have been expending just so they can quiet you down until they remove the profession then you really don't understand theROI (return on investment) processa corporation lives and dies by.
Does this mean I like the news that was posted in the other threads about considering us purely in terms of supporting the combat players, no it doesn't. I hate the direction that implies. However improving the game we already create on our own will still improve my play time. I will have more songs to work from and Imaji's will have more dances to coordinate with my songs. Also our performances, even of the current songs and dances just got alot better.
What professions are you talking about? Pikemen? I know tons of them. All other bralwer classes are well populated. Tons of rifleman and pistoleers, but I still know quite a few carbineers. I know lots of BH's and commandos, lots of smugglers. I know doctors and CM's. Crafters of every sort are in abundance on my galaxy, BE's, AS, WS, chefs, DE's. The only other non entertainer professions I know of that aren't in wide abundance any more are tailors and shipwrights, but there's still more tailors and shipwrights around than there are ID's. Entertainment professions are the only ones dying out, at least the ATK ones. I personally find it amusing that people spend weeks looking for an ID when there's 5 jedi standing at the starport looking for opposing overts to gank.
Ask the creature handlers what they think? Ask the commando and the bounty hunters what they think.. smuggles are getting some attention as well, otherwise I'd point them out too. The tailor profession, despite the socketing issue, is not 'dying' and I think overall tailoring is in decent shape but it wouldn't hurt to be able to make the ith clothing for ALL species because their clothes ROCK.
By the way I have 2 master dancers on other servers, and chiana is dancer 0040... in fact all of my characters have at least novice entertatiner. It is the only profession I have wanted to have just for fun!
Message Edited by Akaara on 03-11-2005 03:24 PM