Dancer Archive
Thread: Poll: BF Ranger/Scout Camps
GothicPoodle
Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:45 pm
#66
I would like to see option 2. I have only seenthree camps since the publish that allowed pets/droids/vehicles to be retrieved without a camp. All three were very close to a city where someone was grinding camping xp.
It may make camps a little more useful and allow the entertainers to get out into the open a little.
Aseanie Tycee, master dancer/master doctor - Bloodfin
Aseanie Tycee, master swordswoman/soon-to-be master dancer (for the second time on StarSider) - StarSider
SmedleyLlama
Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:57 pm
#67
My only concern with option #2 is that now with the latest rage (recursives go bye bye), we have entertainers out in camps in the middle of no where and the cantinas suffer even more.
So instead of helping the majority of the player base with the reduction in healing alternatives, we reduce the available entertainers even further. Unless they happen to be in (or stuble across) a group with a Master Ranger and an Entertainer in it.
I would love to see entertainers able to do their magic out in the world, but there must be a way for Joe Adventurer to continue on with his game as well.
EDIT - Assuming majority rules here.
Message Edited by SmedleyLlama on 08-09-2004 05:59 PM
ThGilsRooc
Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:56 pm
#68
FINALLY!!! As a two time master ranger, I always felt the hight tech field base should be like a mobile cantina. In my guild, I would lead my members out nightly on hunts. I couldn't see a reason why we couldn't hire an entertainer to tag along and heal our BF after extended hunting. Sometimes, we could be deep, deep on the Yavin or Endor backcountry. Nothing is more annoying than having to go all the way back to a cantina just to heal BF. The HTFB has tables, fake chess tables, a nice fire, and pretty much any amenity a camp should have minus the entertainer healing ability. I'm all for option 2. Option 1 would remove the necessity for entertainers and I'm against that. I'm sure it would be more entertaining for entertainers to leave the confines of a stuffy cantina and see the galaxy.
ThGilsRooc
Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:06 pm
#69
Coreena wrote:Honestly I don't like either option. I don't want cantinas to further empty...But if only those 2 options? Option 2 then...And if Option 1 should be realized: Don't make the healing faster than a Novice Entertainer could do
That wouldn't be an issue. Why? Well, there are so few ranger in the game, your cantinas wouldn't be in danger of emptying. And there wouldn't be a severe danger of people going for ranger either. Why? Stackers with novice scout can outkill any ranger in the game. Rangers can harvest more per kill, but the stackers are killing more mobs at a faster rate and collecting more organics than any single ranger. The cantinas wouldn't empty, and one single novice entertainer would make a fortune if I hired him/her to tag along during a guild hunt. We're usually not in it for the credits, but for the social aspect and the levelling.
ThGilsRooc
Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:11 pm
#70
Schardour wrote:
/snipAlso, why give the ability to a Master Ranger when it only takes a Dancer with a house to do the same job?
Simply because you can't plant a house on endor/yavin/dathomir. You can, however, plant a camp. Besides, the options don't give rangers any abilities to heal BF, it gives an entertainer the ability to heal BF in a ranger camp (option 2).
ThGilsRooc
Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:48 pm
#71
Some people are misreading the options. #1 asks for camps to autoheal BF. #2: an ability for entertainers to heal BF in camps. This gives entertainers a nice chance for more income by doing 'gigs.'
Princess_Kamara
Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:27 am
#72
I'm going with option 2 
No need for us to feel anymore less needed now than we do already 
Lesia
Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:27 pm
#73
We all know that option 2 will mean the creation ofnew bots that can heal, buff, and make the necessary camps. It's better than option1, but I truly don't think it's going to be a greatboon for our current rangers or entertainers.
Phenix1050
Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:51 pm
#74
ahhhh....but with the end of repetitive macro's this becomes less of a problem. also, I think if you make the camps that can heal BF (With an ent) high enough in Ranger, few will go through the effort.
Here's the Ranger proposal (there are two versions)
Version 1: A master musician/master dancer crafts a "stage module". This stage module can be bought by a Ranger and placed in a camp while crafting to make a camp with a stage. This would allow for entertainers to heal BF at a camp...but only a High-Tech field base, meaning that a person would have to master scout and get 4 boxes in Ranger to set up the camp that would be able to have a stage. The reason this is nice is that novice entertainers can get XP in the wilderness, while traveling with a Ranger who has purchased stage modules. The drawback is that people could never see the inside of a cantina
Version 2: A master musician/dancer crafts a stage module. They then go to a Rangers' camp and drop the module themselves. This means that only master dancers/musicians could go and set up a stage. This is good because it limits XP grinding outside cantinas. however, this is a drawback since that means it is pointless to bring a novice musician, since they couldn't heal BF, and all master muscians/dancer would be in tell hell (can you set up a stage? I need to heal BF and I'm too busy, but since your a musician, you're obviously not." <--you don't want to get these types of tells and I don't blame you. I hate them too.)
all in all,I like version 1 because while it does somewhat remove the need for the cantina, it doesn't negate them completely. Option 2 completely negates the idea of brining anything but a master musician/dancer.
either way, it'll be hard to exploit either one of these since they're doing away with repetitive macros.
Barb-Wire
Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:24 pm
#76
im a master ranger and i would pick #2 i want a full camp not a lonely one
camps need to hang around for an hour regardless of wether the creatror is in combat or away from it.
reason is that the ranger has to stay and tend the camp a hi-tech field base can be seen from 3km away. the entertainer can then sit and entertainer folks that come to visit while the ranger is out doing ranger things. camps should be more like a portable cantina/med center/basic crafting center with holo chess.
Message Edited by Barb-Wire on 08-15-2004 01:32 AM
AllyaEcati
Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:17 am
#77
Option 1 because I think that would prevent a lot of people from justifying afk.
Owen-Lars
Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:15 pm
#78
Id rather have option 2.
Yes my camps are great survival habbitats and can make you feel home away from home. But to truly feel relaxed and upbeat in camp we would need an entertainer (perhaps using an entertainer stage module in modular camps proposal)a dancer or musician to heal our battle fatigue.
I dont think we should be able to heal bf in camps unless we have entertainer, dancer or muscian. It is quiet possible that we will never have one of these in a group out hunting but that doesnt excuse us being able to do something you do and without a cantina.