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Master Ranger/Master Creature Handler
-I support ATK play

Why vote for option 1 when 2 helps rangers out and can give those of us a that want a better chance at getting out of the cantina and still be able to do support with healing/buffs ?

That being said Why don't Cantinas freakin heal bf ? I thought they were supposed to but I keep hearing people complain that they don't.. Uhh is this working or not ?

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I vote for option 2. I think though, that the highest ranger camp should funcion either exactly like a cantina or close to it, with each lower camp beingdecreasingly less effective than a cantina, but working the same way.

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Isupport the lesser of the two evils #2.

I hope very cautious consideration is taken before implementing either of these ideas. My fear is that infield bf healing could make cantinas nearlyobsolete. And I certainly don't want to hear people complain that they can't find an entertainer because they're all out on hunts. If less bf healing isperformed in cantinas then it will beharder for new entertainers to get healing exp.

Yes, there are definitely positive points, such as for PvP and that entertainers will be wanted in groups (though I suspect many of the former buff vendors will just be set up in group camps). Not including entertainers as part of the bfhealing processwould be far worse.

We just got over one hurdle, we don't want to set ourselves up for another.

I agree with Lesia: I'm nervous about both options because they jeopardize the cantina. On the other hand, I like the idea of giving Rnager a little help.I'll go ahead and poll Musicians to see what they think.

It's iffy. It can hurt and help at the same time. If I must chooseI choose..

Option 2

I think it could have the -3 bf every cycle which is about what 5-10 min? That would be ok. If a ranger wants to sit in his tent and heal say100 bf? He or she can be my guest. That sounds very boring to me. hehe Yet no matter what tent it is it should never heal more then 3 bf.

I vote for option 2. It would be nice for us entertainers to get some fresh air for a change.

I don't understand why entertainers can't heal BF in camps already. A lot of beta testers (me included) suggested that already during beta. Can't remember exactlywhy it was rejected, but I remember that I thought the reason wasn't very convincing.

Fa'Esk Pa'Em - Master Dancer, Teräs Käsi Master

I'm chiming in late on this thread, as I wished to consider things very carefully before speaking.

Perhaps neither of the two options are really the 'best' choice. Not by themselves, anyway.

Has the idea been considered yet that perhaps BF is accumulating too rapidly, now that the gaming environment has changed so dramatically from the way things were at release?

There are a lot of combat players going after the higher-level content now. Krayt hunting has been all-too important for supplying Jedi with pearls. There are regular Giant Dune Kimogliahunts chasing down the elusive RIS armor component scales. The proliferation and mass-production of theSuper Battle Droidin so much of the newer content involved in the game is well known. And the BF is skyrocketing as a result of players going after this higher-end content. Is it just possible that as the game has moved up into the reaches of these more extreme battle conditions that we've seen the math break down regarding the rates at which those high levels of BF are being reached? Perhaps the calculations of how much, and how quickly,BF is accumulating is no longer appropriate for the gaming environment.

I put this idea forth because in my personal experience in design/development of games, one of the things I always considered was the rates and frequencies that I wanted things to occur, on average, and design my systems to bring that play experience into reality for the player. At the end of the day, it comes down to this... is the system supportive of the intended pace of gameplay?

The example here would be,if designing a BF accrual system, I'd look at the average stuff that players were doing (what they were out hunting), figure out about how often I would think they should have to come in and regroup/reset (how many hours of combat play seemed appropriate before setting in some cantina time), and look then at kind of dividing out the amounts of damage combat players were likely to take in the given time period that I thought they should be able to stay in the field before heading back in. That would then determine for my system how much BF comes from combat, essentially averaged out per point of damage taken.

But now, it seems, that players are getting into much higher levels ofMOBs than they were when the BF system initially was instated, and t's not the Bone Armor Warriors anymore. They have the weapons and armor developed to go after much nastier adversaries. They have the buffs to do so. And those really high-level MOBs have been added in with all the new content all along the way. Has the BF accrual rate been pro-rated to accomodate this high-level play? Not that I've seen.

I was along with a small group killing GDK's yesterday (2 TKM's and 2 master rifles (myself as one)to do the job), and the TKM's had accumulated over 750 BF in far less time than their buffs existed. We actually did have to stop in less than a 3 hour time period, and run off to a nearby town to take care of BF mid-hunt.

I can well sympathize with a combat player under these conditions - 750 BF in around 2 hours of gameplay, then with the chance that the only way they can clear that BF is to spend at least as much time sitting in a cantina autohealing than they were playing the game to get that BF in the first place. And that's not good game design. Or rather, in this case it's more of a situation where I think that one part of the game system has not evolved correctly with other parts of the game system, and now leaves an imbalance. It's happened before, and will happen again... it's the nature of systems.

Before I'd look at ways to replace professions' roles of interdependency with other players by allowing BF healing to occur in camps, I'd look at the actual effects of an old and possibly outdatedBF accrual system within avery changed playingenvironment. No matter how the math goes at BF accrual, there is always the direct look at the ratio of how much combatgame play time is intended to be 'permissable' before one has to come on in to reset in the cantina. That, I think, may well be the cause of the problem... finding alternate BF healing methods I think treats the symptom, and may end up doing more harm than good.

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oops sorry fingers hit the wrong button Anyhow this second option is something we def did ask for in beta and since roll out as well. My reason for wanting it is that I am a "camp follower". It makes perfect sense that ent can heal in the field esp if they are travelling with their families.

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