Dancer Archive
Thread: Pro/Anti AFK/Bot/Macro All Purpose Sticky
Ikewe wrote:
Joker9125 wrote:
Looks like yall got your wish in the CU. I went afk with a kneel/stand grinding macro going (I was in the campus library workinon a paper)and got logged out. I even threw up an auto clicker to make sure I'd stay in the game. Im really glad buffs are not going to be that big of an advantage post CU because it looks like I wolnt be getting to many more of em at the hours I play.
Ah! Finally someone who says they play at strange hours. So can you please elaborate as to what these hours are?
I'll freely agree that it is harder and harder to find non-afk entertainers these days but I'll also point out that every person who used an afk dispensing machine while there were live entertainers there has helped to create that problem so be sure to smack them in the head when you see them. Just because you don't see a live entertainer in the cantina doesn't mean there aren't any around. If you go to a mission terminal and don't see another combat player do you assume none are online? Before the afk craze really took hold I spent a full 80% of my time in the cantinas. Now I might spend 20%. That other 80% of the time I am out in the field exploring POI's, killing things for loot, completing quests, etc.. Entertainers were forced to create their own content and create their own financial independence. I'd suggest you try to find entertainers on your server now and add them to your friends list. My server is fairly small but even we have a good mix of North American and European players who are entertainers.
But aside from playersnot being able to find buffs, I'm much more concerned that now it will be harder and harder for entertainers to find players who need healing. You can still advance, though perhaps much more slowly, without a buff. But entertainers cannot advance without filling the healing skill column. Any thoughts on how to fix that problem? After all it's in your best interest to make sure there are an increased number of entertainers rather than a decreased number isn't it?
**cheers**
Aye, I'm an Aussie and my peak times are often in the US off-peak hours, what is usually in the early morning 2-4 AM times. WhatIkewe advocates, is the exact same advice I keep trying to tell my home server. If you make contact with entertainers and make the effort to be polite (and that doesn't mean you have to be chatty chatty), and make the effort to regularly seek us out - we will indeed look after you. Its a two way street.
But that is part of the problem that buffbots have caused us - people don't think they need to look out for us anymore, because a bot fulfills all their needs. Now that there is the threat of recursive macros going away, thus reducing the buffbot population (or so we hope), people are concerned that they are not going to be serviced when they need or want to be.
I have been telling people since the day the "recursive macro is going away" announcement was made, that it is within people's best interest to start compiling entertainers into their friend's lists,their hunts and their guilds. I have been trying to tell people the wonder that is the /register command and what it means to help find us - and in a day and age where shuttles are no longer a time obstacle, thereis really no excuse to notattempt toseek out live entertainers. It is in their best interest to start getting into the habit now, so that you are prepared and the transitioninto this kind of change is easier. I even attempted to establish a 24/7 entertainer channel calledthe Sunrunner Entertainment Network - so entertainers could chat across the planets with other people who were ATK (especially whey they are in training and grouped with zombies **shudders**), it was also there as a resource to help combat the "loss of knowledge" that many training dancers seem to miss out on these days as there is no one in the cantinas to mentor them in the finer tricks of the trade (for example - I had one young lass tell me she was disappointed about progressing up the Tech tree, because it meant that she lost her favourite dazzle effect. She hadn't lost it atall - she just didn't know it became /dazzle 1). But most importantly, it wastherefor the general community to drop in and say "Hey, I'm after a Master Dancer in the next 15mins to help me out on Dath with a buff - can anyone help?" or "I'm after an ID - is anyone availbale or can recommend someone?"
What happened to the channel? It failed.
Why? Well, Iput it down to laziness, actually. People couldn't be bothered having a separate tab open to flick to in case they needed it - and why should they when there was a bot house only a few hundred metres from coronet or within their own city? Obviously, it is such a time sink to hit the tab across and spend a precious 15 seconds typing a request.
I think the crux of what I'm trying to say - is if the community out there support us and show their appreciation by looking out forus - then we will certainly look after you. The number of entertainers dwindled dramatically during the "holocraze" and the following buffbot era, because people no longer valued us - and the less of us there were, more people felt the need to create buffbots, there for decreasing our number, therefore more bots.... ugh, as you can see its a viscious cycle. The more appreciative people are ofus, the more people will be encouraged to pick up the Red Shoes and walk in them, and hopefully entertainer populationwill flourish once again (howeverm whether this is too late a stage in the game, well I remain cautiously optimistic without holding my breath).If you are having trouble finding an entertainer on during your time slot, send a message out to your server, ask the folks out there if there is anyone who is on regularly. Encourage people to create and use not only a server entertainer list, but if there is a channel - then use it. Heaven's above, people might actually make some new friends as well, and that is the best entertainer contact you can have - most entertainerswould bend over backwards for theirfriends, and beleive me, we will 
/startDance Tumble2
Message Edited by Cendatinea on 04-09-2005 10:10 AM
Einhinder wrote:
everything you have said is totall bs and if you feel that way DONT PLAY AN ENTERTAINER for some of us it is enough without them ind buffing and we dont get bored dancing in a cantina all day and if you do then again DONT PLAY AN ENTERTAINER and the part about bot seeing live dancers buffing and healinf at base es is bs because i for one do it all the freaking time. your im uber leet so i should get everything i want whenever i want and everyone who doesnt agree with me sahould go away attitude isnt welcome here so why dont you go away
Anoewyn wrote:
Oh, Ein - **gives hugs**
Message Edited by NeillM on 04-12-2005 11:18 PM
FuschiaD wrote:Phantom, I found your post offensive and inflammatory, and I think the tone of it was inappropriate for this thread. You are essentially calling us idiots and saying that we 'hate' you. That's absurd. I don't KNOW you. What I hate is what you and countless others like you do to my ability to earn money and MY playstyle.Can I tell you how to play your game? No, of course not. I don't want to. But when it starts to interfere with how I play MINE, that's where I have to draw the line. You say you receive countless emails and tells thanking you for your buffbot. Of course you do. I never said buffbots aren't useful, but they're also incredibly detrimental to players who choose to actually *gasp* PLAY an entertainer.I will say it again...NO PROFESSION SHOULD BE FULLY AFKABLE FROM START TO FINISH.That IS what this boils down to.Do I use macros? Yes! I'm actually extremely dependent on them. Have I ever gone AFK while dancing? Yes. But I do not, under any circumstances, buff while AFK. I get odd looks for that, but it helps reinforce the fact that I AM NOT A BUFFBOT. I have to go AFK every night to pick my boyfriend up from work, and I run my macro rather than logout because my computer loads so slowly.
Get a life geez buff bots are essenstiale and un bias as some players are really bias...So I cheer buff bots
Was pretty funny in Theed last night. I was dancing in front of the starport with friends while we waited for the server to go down and the buffbot from MO came over to tell me how she quit botting and dropped her ent skills 2 days ago because she "had realized that she had ruined the profession". LOL..2 days ago! (yeah we all know why) I laughed until it hurt!
rayill wrote:
I would think that after today that they are no longer essential, so isn't your point mute now?
1) I hope we never have anything "essential" again that is long running. If it's going to be something that everybody wants all the time, let it only last for 5 minutes so it has to be done in a camp. Cantinas are meant to be Social Hubs, not a service station.
2) I hope XP gain is adjusted to something everyone feels is reasonable to obtain so no one ever feels the need to AFK level Dancer ever again. Sure, it can be allowed, but I hope no one is ever driven to it!
3) I hope this thread is never needed again after those first two things are worked out. 
Panthu wrote:
3) I hope this thread is never needed again after those first two things are worked out.
*CHEER*
Esharra wrote:
Panthu wrote:
3) I hope this thread is never needed again after those first two things are worked out.
*CHEER*