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Thread: Entertainer NPC's... Your Thoughts?
My husband and I are already preparing for the ham/armor changes. He experiments with armor to make them with such low encumberances. I am sure he is not the only armorsmith with the foresight to see the future on the horizon. I am sure there are many others on each server...just have to look.
I don't really use doctor buffs when I hunt anymore...mainly go by eating food and drink.
Plus, learning how to use my specials wisely helps too.
And, jedi don't wear armor...so we have had to deal with that as well for a bit now.
With ALL of the above...and experiencing it first hand I might add...BF isn't that bad.
And if it is..again...there is always something you can do about it.
I am not trying to be argumentative with anyone here. What I see are good, valid points being brought to the table. What I also see is covenience as the bottom line throughout all of it though. I just don't want catering to one's convenience ruining whole professions.
I wish I had enough skill points too, for everything I liked or wished/needed to do. If I did, I don't think I would have so many little people. 
Dreamland wrote:
PistolDance wrote:
Dreamland wrote:
Well if i can continue to easily do missions with 600 bf then how is the bf from 2 missions crippling? Past a certain point jedi heal their own battle fatigue as well, and as to the armor nerf who knows when or if it will even go in.
Not all Jedi can heal their own BF
Read the green highlighted section.
Read the bold section:
Not all Jedi can heal their BF.
Oqua wrote:
I am not trying to be argumentative with anyone here. What I see are good, valid points being brought to the table. What I also see is covenience as the bottom line throughout all of it though. I just don't want catering to one's convenience ruining whole professions.
Message Edited by PistolDance on 08-07-2004 05:47 PM
PistolDance wrote:
Yeah, ifyou sit back like thatand say ah screw it and continue to cater to the powergamers then yes, thats what will happen. People are saying no we don't want that kind of game. And by catering to them again with NPC entetainers or other solutions that invalidate entertainers then we are doing nothing more than wasting any efforts that are being made.
Unfortunately I dont think that will happen, the game has changed already.
Its gone past that fun new mmorpg to the power gamer mmog. This is what happens in all mmorpgs
I know some fun for the entertainers will be brought back once all the afk'ers are gone.
But it will never be as fun as it was. Too many power gamers, which means too many people that resent having to go into a cantina and have their BF and minds healed by a bunch of fruity entertainers that only hinder them from getting
2\/\/33t l00t.
It means you dont know that only certain Jedi can heal their BF, it is a skill. Just like you choosing entertainer so you can heal your own is.
Dreamland wrote:
Milandra i swear you need to go to a reading comprehension class, what do you think it means when i say that past a certain point jedi can heal thier own battle fatigue?
PistolDance wrote:
Dreamland wrote:
PistolDance wrote:
Dreamland wrote:
Well if i can continue to easily do missions with 600 bf then how is the bf from 2 missions crippling? Past a certain point jedi heal their own battle fatigue as well, and as to the armor nerf who knows when or if it will even go in.
Not all Jedi can heal their own BF
Read the green highlighted section.
Read the bold section:
Not all Jedi can heal their BF.
Dreamland wrote:
PistolDance wrote:
Yeah, ifyou sit back like thatand say ah screw it and continue to cater to the powergamers then yes, thats what will happen. People are saying no we don't want that kind of game. And by catering to them again with NPC entetainers or other solutions that invalidate entertainers then we are doing nothing more than wasting any efforts that are being made.
Unfortunately I dont think that will happen, the game has changed already.
Its gone past that fun new mmorpg to the power gamer mmog. This is what happens in all mmorpgs
I know some fun for the entertainers will be brought back once all the afk'ers are gone.
But it will never be as fun as it was. Too many power gamers, which means too many people that resent having to go into a cantina and have their BF and minds healed by a bunch of fruity entertainers that only hinder them from getting
2\/\/33t l00t.
First of all I am not in favor of NPCtainers.
Secondly I dont think adding content that will benefit both classes as catering to a specific class.
Third, Im getting sick of all this "catering" talk. Entertainer, just like doc, cm's, squad leader ect are all "support classes". By choosing these classes you choose a profession that's main job is to "cater" to other classes.
Why choose a profession geared towards helping other people if you arent excited about helping others?
PistolDance wrote:
It means you dont know that only certain Jedi can heal their BF, it is a skill. Just like you choosing entertainer so you can heal your own is.
Dreamland wrote:
Milandra i swear you need to go to a reading comprehension class, what do you think it means when i say that past a certain point jedi can heal thier own battle fatigue?
PistolDance wrote:
Dreamland wrote:
PistolDance wrote:
Dreamland wrote:
Well if i can continue to easily do missions with 600 bf then how is the bf from 2 missions crippling? Past a certain point jedi heal their own battle fatigue as well, and as to the armor nerf who knows when or if it will even go in.
Not all Jedi can heal their own BF
Read the green highlighted section.
Read the bold section:
Not all Jedi can heal their BF.
Ok im going to explain this to you one more time. PAST A CERTAIN POINT JEDI CAN HEAL THEIR OWN BATTLE FATIGUE. that means that once they reach a certain level they can, and ergo starting jedi cannot. therefor you have been saying something that is already covered, i KNOWnot all jedi can and THATS WHAT MY ORIGINAL POST SAYS IF YOU ACTUALY READ IT.
Is this clear to you now?
PistolDance wrote:
First of all I am not in favor of NPCtainers.
Secondly I dont think adding content that will benefit both classes as catering to a specific class.
Third, Im getting sick of all this "catering" talk. Entertainer, just like doc, cm's, squad leader ect are all "support classes". By choosing these classes you choose a profession that's main job is to "cater" to other classes.
Why choose a profession geared towards helping other people if you arent excited about helping others?
Dreamland wrote:
Ok im going to explain this to you one more time. PAST A CERTAIN POINT JEDI CAN HEAL THEIR OWN BATTLE FATIGUE. that means that once they reach a certain level they can, and ergo starting jedi cannot. therefor you have been saying something that is already covered, i KNOWnot all jedi can and THATS WHAT MY ORIGINAL POST SAYS IF YOU ACTUALY READ IT.
Is this clear to you now?
No need to get excited lol
Like I said, BF healing is a trait that only Jedi Healers can use.
It doesnt matter what lvl you are, like any other profession you have to choose this option.
Your argument, as you are stating it, can go for ANY player.
Everyone in the gamecan heal their own BF if they train in a class that has BF healing.
A droid thatyou program and are paid for will not negate your profession, it will only add to your professions "usefulness"
Dreamland wrote:
PistolDance wrote:
First of all I am not in favor of NPCtainers.
Secondly I dont think adding content that will benefit both classes as catering to a specific class.
Third, Im getting sick of all this "catering" talk. Entertainer, just like doc, cm's, squad leader ect are all "support classes". By choosing these classes you choose a profession that's main job is to "cater" to other classes.
Why choose a profession geared towards helping other people if you arent excited about helping others?
You know what i AM excited about the idea of getting to practice my profession again. But if something is added that completely negates my usefulness I WON'T get to practice my profession again because I'll have no more usefulness than i do now.
Every other player in the game DOES NOT have battle fatigue healing built into the skilltrees of thier profession however, they have to use up 15 skill points to get novice entertainer, which is very unlikely because with most combat characters maintaining at least novice medic there just too short on skill points as it is.
PistolDance wrote:
No need to get excited lol
Like I said, BF healing is a trait that only Jedi Healers can use.
It doesnt matter what lvl you are, like any other profession you have to choose this option.
Your argument, as you are stating it, can go for ANY player.
Everyone in the gamecan heal their own BF if they train in a class that has BF healing.
This is the same situation for Jedi.
Dreamland wrote:
Every other player in the game DOES NOT have battle fatigue healing built into the skilltrees of thier profession however, they have to use up 15 skill points to get novice entertainer, which is very unlikely because with most combat characters maintaining at least novice medic there just too short on skill points as it is.
PistolDance wrote:
No need to get excited lol
Like I said, BF healing is a trait that only Jedi Healers can use.
It doesnt matter what lvl you are, like any other profession you have to choose this option.
Your argument, as you are stating it, can go for ANY player.
Everyone in the gamecan heal their own BF if they train in a class that has BF healing.